Comparative Cost of Metro

[SBD-3]

One thing mr.Farrukh Saleem is missing is the quality and the mix of expensive-to-build track to total track
For example, here is an example of Ahmedabad brts

In phase II just adding 4.5KM elevated track to otherwise half of the track equates the cost of both tracks.
Delhi also incurred high cost because of elevated and underground sections

To date, the Ahmedabad BRTS has completed 66 km. Another 22 km is due for completion, taking the total cost to Rs 1,000 crore. Experts say an overland or elevated section of the Delhi Metro cost on an average Rs 100 crore per km. Underground costs were higher at Rs 475 crore per km. Taking the least average construction cost of Rs 100 crore per km, if a metro train system had replaced the BRTS in Ahmedabad, the city would have spent Rs 8,800 crore (Rs 100 crore X 88 km) for the 88-km system.

If we compare Islamabad and Ahmadabad then
Ahmadabad only has around 5% of the route elevated vs ~40% of Islamabad Metro bus. Plus it also seems that they haven't spent a lot on building other infrastructure as well

Compare this with Istanbul Metro

What i would be interested is how much percent of the track of all the metros is elevated/underground.

 

[kaku1]

What i would be interested is how much percent of the track of all the metros is elevated/underground.

You find this here
http://www.delhimetrorail.com/corridors.aspx

 

[Hyde]

I was actually doing some research on the comparative cost of metrobus and realised even though the cost is high and cannot be justified when you breakdown the cost of 45 billion rupees for 24 kilometre track to metres, that is 24,000 metres of track or 187500 rupees per 1 metre of construction work... there is some point of argument we can talk about.

I am also not able to justify the fact that each bus for Lahore metro costed us 8 crore rupees when you realise that the Transportation for London despite being in UK with high salaries and operational costs bought buses for 350,000 pounds or 537,000 dollars per bus including service and maintenance charges for the remainder of the life span of bus for 25 years. This is in addition to the fact that Punjab government did not buy state of the art buses from Internationally renowned chain of bus manufacturers such as Volvo Europe. I do believe that they purchased from the subsidiary of Volvo China and Turkish companies but I am not sure it would mean cheaper buses due to less manufacturing costs and salaries. I have not been able to find the costs for buses for Islamabad Metrobus however and believe its always going to be higher than UK or any other country in the world due to past record by the government.

I cannot consume the idea that only 10 metres of asphalt laid track would cost you hefty sum of 1.87 milion rupees. No matter how much waste of infrastructure you do in 10 metres of land, it should not cost you as much whatsoever. My figures can be challenged and the price might be slightly up or down as it was a quick glance over the comparative costs but the bottom line is, there is a massive potential of corruption in metrobus projects of Islamabad-Pindi and Lahore projects.

I am also fully aware of the fact that each bus project in the world has varied to greater extent and it is a very bad idea to compare it with other countries as the terrain for each city is different to one another and you are not sure about the costs for purchasing land of public property for construction purposes, whether the project is passing through rivers, hills or tunnels, you are neither sure about the length of individual project being elevated, underground or a flat track and the dimensions of dedicated lanes would also vary in every project.

It surely does cost a lot of money but it is hard to consume why everything has to be 2x higher than rest of the countries.

 

[Peaceful Civilian]

Our Labor Is Very cheap compared to other countries . Labor is important part of project... Hence you can't exclude it during the Cost Ratio comparison .

 

[ni8mare]

Bangalore Metro Phase 2: to be opened by 2017, 264 billion rupees for 72.1 km. This is $164 million/km. I do not know what proportion of the project is underground; it does not seem to be large, as the extension of the phase 1 lines are all outbound, and only line 4 seems to have significant tunneling, about 14 km by pure Wikipedia eyeballing.

Bangalore Metro, Phase 1: built 2006-11, 8,158 crore rupees for 42.3 km: $93 million/km. Only 8.82 km, or 21% of the project, is underground. See above for Indian construction costs in a heavier-tunneling setting.​

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your data are completely nonsense .........don't about others, i only concentrate in Indian system only

Bangalore Metro Phase 2.............264 billion rupees translates to 4.2 bn $ as 264/63 = ~ 4.2 bn or 4200 mn
which gives 4200/72.1 = ~$58 mn /km not $164 million/km which author put out of his @$$

Bangalore Metro, Phase 1.............8,158 crore rupees translates to $1300 mn
which gives 1300/42.3 = ~ $ 30 mn /km not $93 million/km which author again put out of his @$$

Manindra kaku1

 

[Hyde]

Our Labor Is Very cheap compared to other countries . Labor is important part of project... Hence you can't exclude it during the Cost Ratio comparison .

Although I do agree that our labour is cheap but it only plays a notable contribution to the total cost of mega project. I mean if you build metro for 500 million dollars, may be you will be saving 5-10 million dollars due to cheap manpower but wouldn't be cutting the major factor of costs by huge margin.

That is because Pakistan imports almost everything needed to build an infrastructure and it costs money to buy from other nations where labour cost is not cheap. Then you incur import charges and even cost big amount to transport at domestic locations. For example transporting a full loaded container of most items from Karachi to Lahore may cost 1250 dollars.

Imagine Pakistan wants to build a road, it would import asphalt from Iran or Arab nations as asphalt is also a petroleum product and Pakistan has been importing it from Iran. My family in Pakistan has been involved in road construction since last 30-40 years and I know the workers in this field are paid a lot more than other professions in Pakistan. My uncle also rents the machinery used in road construction and you might be surprised to know that the driver that he sends alongside vehicle charges more than 5000 rupees per day for working at a under construction site. So imagine his total income if he works for like 20 days a month.

I know the government has permanent employees and may not be paying as much but it is definitely more expensive to build roads or bridges in Pakistan than most nations in the world as they fulfil most of the required demand domestically.

 

[TheFlyingPretzel]

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your data are completely nonsense .........don't about others, i only concentrate in Indian system only

Bangalore Metro Phase 2.............264 billion rupees translates to 4.2 bn $ as 264/63 = ~ 4.2 bn or 4200 mn
which gives 4200/72.1 = ~$58 mn /km not $164 million/km which author put out of his @$$

Bangalore Metro, Phase 1.............8,158 crore rupees translates to $1300 mn
which gives 1300/42.3 = ~ $ 30 mn /km not $93 million/km which author again put out of his @$$

Manindra kaku1

Calm down. You're going to give yourself a hemorrhage. It's a typo. Live with it.