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There are more than two wrongs and they are the instances which make a pattern if you see it. It is if you can't defend yourself, you lose everything. Japan could have saved itself if it had opted for a different strategy but it failed and paid for its failure more than what anyone had to pay.

I don't understand why China singles out Japan all the time but keeps mum when US led forces had committed more horrible atrocities in China during the Opium Wars.

I was unawared of US crimes committed in China during the Opium Wars at the scale of Nanking Massacre or Unit 731.

Give source!

By the end of the day, it's up to the Chinese what they regard as "more" horrible and not any of us outsiders. We also have to factor in time of occurence. Many vitims of those crimes are still alive.
 
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Many internation powers have commited crimes.. i agree.. but not on massive scales like japanese or nazis...

actually they did but they are hardly documented by western media how many times have you heard them speaking about 1943 bengal famine aka indian holocaust where millions of indians died due to British policies and countless other atttocities they commited during their 200 year rule the hell i constantly hear western media potraying british raj as a boon for india and how the whites civilized us and all that ****. I dont support the massacres commited by japanese and germans but whatever they did in no way affected us(south asians) infact they helped us in driving the foreign power out of our land by helping us form a small army consisting of mostly captured Indian PoWs to liberate our land and more importanly by weakening the british political, economic and military power rendering them unable to hold on to their colonies in asia and africa especially regions like india where freedom movements were active in full swing.
 
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which disgusting comments???

Comments regarding Japanese atrocities. I don't now which one he is talking about but Japan doesn't takes responsibility/plays it down. As you see in OP post, Japanese don't even except that such things happened, be it Nanking, and many others.

Germany on the other hand has apologised and Nazi sympathisers are frowned upon.
 
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Götterdämmerung;4588026 said:
I was unawared of US crimes committed in China during the Opium Wars at the scale of Nanking Massacre or Unit 731.

Give source!

By the end of the day, it's up to the Chinese what they regard as "more" horrible and not any of us outsiders. We also have to factor in time of occurence. Many vitims of those crimes are still alive.

I think that was during Boxer rebellion:

Boxer Rebellion - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Beijing, Tianjin, and other cities in northern China were occupied for more than one year by the international expeditionary force under the command of German General Alfred Graf von Waldersee. The German force arrived too late to take part in the fighting, but undertook several punitive expeditions to the countryside against the Boxers. Although atrocities by foreign troops were common, German troops in particular were criticized for their enthusiasm in carrying out Kaiser Wilhelm II’s words. On 27 July 1900, when Wilhelm II spoke during departure ceremonies for the German contingent to the relief force in China, an impromptu, but intemperate reference to the Hun invaders of continental Europe would later be resurrected by British propaganda to mock Germany during World War I and World War II.

"Should you encounter the enemy, he will be defeated! No quarter will be given! Prisoners will not be taken! Whoever falls into your hands is forfeited. Just as a thousand years ago the Huns under their King Attila made a name for themselves, one that even today makes them seem mighty in history and legend, may the name German be affirmed by you in such a way in China that no Chinese will ever again dare to look cross-eyed at a German."[73]

The Germans were not the only offenders. On behalf of Chinese Catholics, French troops ravaged the countryside around Beijing to collect indemnities—and on one occasion arresting American missionary William Scott Ament who beat them to the punch in gathering wealth from some villages.[74] Nor were the soldiers of other nationalities any better behaved. "The Russian soldiers are ravishing the women and committing horrible atrocities" in the sector of Beijing they occupied. The Japanese were noted for their skill in beheading Boxers or people suspected of being Boxers. General Chaffee commented, "It is safe to say that where one real Boxer has been killed... fifty harmless coolies or laborers on the farms, including not a few women and children, have been slain."[75]
Japanese troops during the boxer rebellion
American troops during the Boxer Rebellion.

The intermediate aftermath of the siege in Beijing was what one newspaper called a "carnival of loot," and others called "an orgy of looting" by soldiers, civilians, and missionaries. These characterizations called to mind the sacking of the Summer Palace in 1860.[76] All of the nationalities in the expeditionary force engaged in looting,[77] but each nationality accused the others of being the worst looters. An American diplomat, Herbert G. Squiers, filled several railroad cars with loot. The British Legation held loot auctions every afternoon and proclaimed, "looting on the part of British troops was carried out in the most orderly manner." The Catholic Beitang or North Cathedral was a "salesroom for stolen property."[78] The American commander General Adna Chaffee banned looting by American soldiers, but the ban was ineffectual.[79]

The missionaries were the most condemned. Mark Twain reflected American outrage against looting and imperialism in his essay, "To the Person Sitting in Darkness". American Board Missionary Ament was his target.[80] To provide restitution to missionaries and Chinese Christian families whose property had been destroyed, Ament guided American troops through villages to punish Boxers and confiscate their property. When Mark Twain read of this expedition, he wrote a scathing attack on the "Reverend bandits of the American Board."[81] Ament was one of the most respected and courageous missionaries in China and the controversy between him and Mark Twain was front page news during much of 1901. Ament's counterpart on the distaff side was doughty British missionary Georgina Smith who presided over a neighborhood in Beijing as judge and jury.[82]

One witness recalled that "[t]he conduct of the Russian soldiers is atrocious, the French are not much better, and the Japanese are looting and burning without mercy".[77] It was reported that Japanese troops were astonished by other Alliance troops raping civilians; Japanese officers had brought along Japanese prostitutes to stop their troops from raping Chinese civilians.[83] Thousands of Chinese women committed suicide; The Daily Telegraph journalist E. J. Dillon stated it was to avoid rape by Alliance forces, and he witnessed the mutilated corpses of Chinese women who were raped and killed by the Alliance troops. The French commander dismissed the rapes, attributing them to "gallantry of the French soldier". A foreign journalist, George Lynch, said "there are things that I must not write, and that may not be printed in England, which would seem to show that this Western civilization of ours is merely a veneer over savagery."[77][84]
 
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actually they did but they are hardly documented by western media how many times have you heard them speaking about 1943 bengal famine aka indian holocaust where millions of indians died due to British policies and countless other atttocities they commited during their 200 year rule the hell i constantly hear western media potraying british raj as a boon for india and how the whites civilized us and all that ****.

I dont know abt "civilising" south asia.. but yes ive heard abt the bengal famine n the bs about "boon" n crap.. in short.. just because they did such crimes cant justify what the japs did to the countries they captured... whick unlike the crimes you quoted are much worse...and disgusting.. and nothing can justify them..

I dont support the massacres commited by japanese and germans but whatever they did in no way affected us(south asians) infact they helped us in driving the foreign power out of our land by helping us form a small army consisting of mostly captured Indian PoWs to liberate our land and more importanly by weakening the british political, economic and military power rendering them unable to hold on to their colonies in asia and africa especially regions like india where freedom movements were active in full swing.

What do you think they would have done if they captured you? here is something they did in andoman and nicobar islands:

https://www.google.com.pk/url?sa=t&...sY4s5pbxC5aznagujcKgetw&bvm=bv.50165853,d.bGE
 
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Götterdämmerung;4588202 said:
I see, those crimes were indeed horrible but nowhere near the Nanking Massacre, Unit 731 or the concentration camps.

Atrocities committed by US led forces during the Opium Wars appear to you lesser in extent because they have been played down just like how news of atrocities committed by the US soldiers after the occupation in Japan were censored by McArthur's order. Nanking has been used as a political propaganda by both US and China to serve their own interests that don't intersect with each other. US plays it to create trouble between China and Japan, China does it to isolate Japan. There were many atrocities that went unreported. What will China gain by overreacting?
 
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Atrocities committed by US led forces during the Opium Wars appear to you lesser in extent because they have been played down just like how news of atrocities committed by the US soldiers after the occupation in Japan were censored by McArthur's order. Nanking has been used as a political propaganda by both US and China to serve their own interests that don't intersect with each other. US plays it to create trouble between China and Japan, China does it to isolate Japan. There were many atrocities that went unreported. What will China gain by overreacting?

You should be ashamed of yourself as a human being to say the "Nanking Massacre" is a "political gain" and 'over-reacting" by China!
 
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You should be ashamed of yourself as a human being to say the "Nanking Massacre" is a "political gain" and 'over-reacting" by China!

US creates a trouble between China and Japan, China and Japan can't avoid the trouble nor can they strop US from creating trouble, as China can't take on the US, so it tries to make Japan a scapegoat by isolating it and weaken it further so that when the trouble turns into an unavoidable conflict, China can defeat Japan and come out victorious.
 
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US creates a trouble between China and Japan, China and Japan can't avoid the trouble nor can they strop US from creating trouble, as China can't take on the US, so it tries to make Japan a scapegoat by isolating it and weaken it further so that when the trouble turns into an unavoidable conflict, China can defeat Japan and come out victorious.

it is not just China who is at great odds with the japanese
S Koreans are also condemning japanese's unrepentent ww2 atrocities
many other countries like Indonesia Myanmar and even the Pinoys are protesting, albeit due to their political concerns on smaller scales

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Filipino ‘comfort women’ stage protest outside Malacañang
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Götterdämmerung;4588202 said:
I see, those crimes were indeed horrible but nowhere near the Nanking Massacre, Unit 731 or the concentration camps.

My point, and probably @GR!FF!N's too that even the so called allies of justice are equally corrupt. I would not compare any of the atrocities, as from what we know, Nanking and the camps appears the most horrible. But, that is what we know.

Atleast Germans apologised. Americans and others don't let the news be known, while the Japanese just deny.
 
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Many internation powers have commited crimes.. i agree.. but not on massive scales like japanese or nazis...

P.S= I wont be surprised if you admired nazis or imperial japan... considering several indians with hilter or nazi avatars ...



Not just 10 baluch.. read the whole article... Baluch regiment is composed of the same regiments tht were part of the british indian army.

well,I don't even want to answer the first part as we know which country favors democracy and which country favors autocracy..

now,second part,what i meant is that it was other regiments which took part,not baloch as it was formed later..it was the soldiers which consisted into baloch regiment which fought..thanks for the info again..
 
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