COAS and DG ISI reach PM house

[koolio]

IK speech is live

 

[blain2]

Under secretary. An under secretary can impose regime change with one meeting. That’s a sub banana republic status we have achieved. Very proud moment!

No, the problem is that this is being used by PTI to gain mileage amongst the population that has an overtly anti-American, negative perception in Pakistan. Otherwise Pakistan ignores most of what the US says (including from their top leadership).

Far more has been dished out to Pakistan in the past (including to the army chiefs visiting the US) yet the past governments kept it confidential and went about doing what they could.

 

[SaadH]

Mujib.

2008 & 2013 were relatively OK.

You are a confirmed patwari if you believe 2013 was "relatively OK"...

MQM thugs were stealing ballot boxes in front of national audience and that NRO King and mini Frankenstein look a like Kiani refused to send military to safeguard the ballots...

 

[Bilal.]

No, the problem is that this is being used by PTI to gain mileage amongst the population that has an overtly anti-American, negative perception Pakistan. Otherwise Pakistan ignores most of what the US says (including from their top leadership).

Far more has been dished out to Pakistan in the past (including to the army chiefs visiting the US) yet the past governments kept it confidential and went about doing what they could.

Let’s not try to white wash what it really is. Far worse has been said and is said on policy matters. Here the point was to let the regime change happen or else.

So now a new precedence is being set that Pakistan regime change is a matter of few million dollars in funding and a threat at an under secretary level.

Banana republics are better than this.

 

[Mirzali Khan]

No, the problem is that this is being used by PTI to gain mileage amongst the population that has an overtly anti-American, negative perception Pakistan.

Which population is this?

 

[Rank]

Where is the proof that ISI brought IK to power in 2018?

Show it or shut up!

Nailed ... classic slap on this idot!

 

[SQ8]

referring to this particular part...
“Yes, ok .. if you can refer the website.. you know Baita this country is doomed and I won’t want my children here and even your ____ always wanted to move to the US”

Me: “ wasn’t your husband the one calling Malala a whore of the US and bragging about how Pakistan defeated two superpowers in Afghanistan and the US should mind its own business and get lost?”

Oh.. so being honest is incorrect?
I frankly despise hypocrites who are drawing room warriors going “You can live in America, my Pakistan is the best” and then when crisis hits again go “Please help us come to land of opportunity “

Opportunity strikes! Charge them a fees from a shadow company that you could refer to .

Its a Pakistani khandan.. they will pay a person referred outside of the family $500 for just consultation but will do their best for a freebie for anyone I refer to.

 

[SQ8]

tbh I think we can all safely say the ruling system in Pakistan is structurally corrupt and irredeemable. The game's broken.

Every nation reaches a point where it has to 'break' the rules of the established order. The US did it when it broke from the UK. The Europeans did it when they sidelined the Church. We Pakistanis are reaching the wall (if we haven't already) where we have to decide whether the current system has the inherent legitimacy to rule us.

We can exchange Zelle accounts for payments but I bet there will be no “decisions” by Pakistanis. Come Eid the usual discussions will return and 1 token squadron of J-10s will be mourned for the next 4 years due to the economy being raped again.

 

[Clutch]

Different Internal/External dynamics.

No..

A man is a man. A coward is a coward. A Munafik is a Munafik. A lion is a lion. A pig is a pig. A Muslim is a Muslim. A donkey is a donkey. A traitor is a traitor. A loser is a loser. A drone bomb is a drone bomb.. no dynamics here.

I say.. India just just take Pakistan and break it up... Just give Pakistani a house in LONDON.

 

[blain2]

Which population is this?

All of Pakistan! ;-)

 

[Riz]

Establishment…Khan your enemies are not those three stooges , but these corrupt generals who are sitting in GHQ and deciding the fate of Pakistani leaders and its people, please re edit your slogan, please stay strong you still have time sacked bajwa and DGISI you will see whole nation will stand beside you

 

[Rank]

Today the state of Pakistan has officially accepted that the threat was real after the high-level security meeting between the government and the military establishment. It is not a joke anymore. No such threat was ever received formally by the state before except for verbal encounters. No factual evidence exists of any of such historic threats. However, this is the first time a threat has been conveyed officially via diplomatic channels. The military establishment admitted and should prepare to confront the adversary. According to the law, this level of threat should be dealt with severely including consulting the security council. All the organs of the state including the Military, Judiciary should be legally bound to be aligned with the government that has been threatened by foreign elements or country(s). There should be extremely serious repercussions for those identities who were directly involved in the conspiracy. Toppling a sitting regime by getting foreign funds or by getting foreign support should be charged with high treason acts anywhere in the world. Under the given circumstances, the Supreme court should strike down the opposition’s no-confidence motion and order an inquiry. The aides/abettors should be arrested, and an emergency should be imposed. Technically Military and judiciary MUST REACT against the perpetrators without ifs and buts.

 

[Meengla]

Looking at these comments here ... wah yani kai DG ISI and COAS tu ghalat hain busss sahi hain tu sirf hazrat mulana IK sb.
Guys FFS just cut some slack and think logically, if there is chances of establishement being wrong 50% than you should also consider IK being wrong 50% as well
my problem is how he is treated as farishta who cannot commit mistakes, reality check he is NOT and he HAS made mistakes and the sooner he realizes that the better it is for us because he was supposed to be our hope

Bolded part. Agreed. Pakistanis shouldn't put anyone as their worshipped leader. There is no doubt that Imran Khan is very sincere and not-corrupt and perhaps his team is the least corrupt in Pakistan since at least the early 1980s. But 'performance' and 'sincerity' sometimes don't always go together.
BTW, I am skeptical about this American angle here. What would a 'regime change' mean? Shehbaz Sharif coming to power and agreeing to American demands for military bases? For ditching China?
This drama is more about some deep pocketed Pakistani politicians buying others ahead of the upcoming elections because that's when there is optimal time when loyalties are best bought and paid for.

 

[Hayreddin]

Establishment…Khan your enemies are not those three stooges , but these corrupt generals who are sitting in GHQ and deciding the fate of Pakistani leaders and its people, please re edit your slogan, please stay strong you still have time sacked bajwa and DGISI you will see whole nation will stand beside you

Those corrupt Generals are in full control ,they won't let IK do such decision .
They have already prepared for such worse case scenerio .
IK has chosen wrong targets ,those stooges could not kick him out in last 3 years , what now all of sudden , General bajwa and that DG ISI is standing behind them .

Mark my words
Imran khan is history now , he will lose PM office on sunday and if afterwards he do any street agitation or do '' chon charan '' God forbid he will be killed just like Mr liaqat ali khan .He won't be in power again . He is done ....

but still Imran khan has next 24 hrs to do big favor for nation if he really care about nation ,His game is over but he should stand for the nation , sack that bloody corrupt General Bajwa and DG ISI . and bring any strong patriotic Generals and anounce emeregency aka brutal martial law still even after that he will be gone but this nation would saved from these traitors judges politician and generals .

May ALLAH save PAKISTAN
PAKISTAN ZINDABAD
PAKISTAN ARMED FORCES PAINDABAD

 

[Bilal Khan (Quwa)]

We can exchange Zelle accounts for payments but I bet there will be no “decisions” by Pakistanis. Come Eid the usual discussions will return and 1 token squadron of J-10s will be mourned for the next 4 years due to the economy being raped again.

I feel that our drawing-room discussions default to addressing sideshows (e.g., the parties, the generals, etc) and not the underlying problem, i.e., the system. The system we're seeing now is the result of 70+ years of development. It has matured...into a regressive and corrupt reality. No one wants to confront that fact because it forces us (as a society) to critically examine ourselves and admit where we (as individuals, families, tribes, ethnic sub-groups, etc) all went wrong.

Yet we Pakistanis generally don't self-reflect and accept, "my bad." I literally argued with an uncle who thought the shahadah/kalimah wasn't one of the 5 pillars. Guy replaced it with jihad. When I showed him the textual evidence, his response was, "so are you saying what I was taught in my childhood was wrong?" I'm standing there thinking, "what. the. frig." That's the thought process of our nation.