CM Punjab Runoff elections 22 July

[SD 10]

وہی فضول کھسی پٹی بکواس عمران خان کی طرف سے۔ پانچ سال کا بچہ بھی یہ باتیں جانتا ہے

iMRAN IS NOT A REVOLUTIONARY..... he will probably end like this... after sometime people wont even listen to his repeated words! he is digging his own grave!

 

[TheSnakeEatingMarkhur]

Speaker’s Ruling Can’t Be Challenged Under Article 69: FM Qureshi​

Speaker’s ruling can’t be challenged under Article 69: FM Qureshi

Former Foreign Minister Shah Mahmood Qureshi on Thursday said that under Article 69 of the Constitution, the ruling of the speaker could not be challenged.Speaking during the presser outside the Supreme Court of Pakistan, Shah Mahmood Qureshi said th

nation.com.pk

Patwari halke is that you ?

Please be aware that SC did challenge speakers ruling back then and will do so now as well.

 

[Zibago]

Ohhh how many times we have to explain it to you

Party head can only file reference in ECP if any member refuse to follow the direction of parliamentary party.

It's parliamentary party who decide what to do and if anything wrong happens only then Party head will take action

Well for those who want to read here is the actual article
It clearly says parliamentary party but yaha nazriyae zarorat chalti hy

 

[TheSnakeEatingMarkhur]

The full excerpt which you quoted refers to the party head in it

Turning to the second question and keeping in mind the answer to the first, it is our view that the vote of any member (including a deemed member) of a Parliamentary Party in a House that is cast contrary to any direction issued by the latter in terms of para (b) of clause (1) of Article 63A cannot be counted and must be disregarded, and this is so regardless of whether the Party Head, subsequent to such vote, proceeds to take, or refrains from taking, action that would result in a declaration of defection. The second question referred to this Court stands answered in the foregoing terms. Turning to the second question and keeping in mind the answer to the first, it is our view that the vote of any member (including a deemed member) of a Parliamentary Party in a House that is cast contrary to any direction issued by the latter in terms of para (b) of clause (1) of Article 63A cannot be counted and must be disregarded, and this is so regardless of whether the Party Head, subsequent to such vote, proceeds to take, or refrains from taking, action that would result in a declaration of defection. The second question referred to this Court stands answered in the foregoing terms.

On Page 7 it references to Party head again

In case the Election Commission of Pakistan confirms the declaration sent by a Party Head against a member, he/she shall cease to be a Member of the House. As a result thereof, his/her seat shall become vacant.

So party head can not be part of house and still can run the parliamentary or Senate affairs. Ashke tuhade te.

 

[Catalystic]

My dear brothers:

Stop watching news and stop expecting this system or its related people to deliver……its a circus/theatre only.

Nothing will change until ghazwa e hind…….only after war will shit change here…..until then either stay away from news/media/politics or enjoy the circus…….they’re all paid stooges of world economic forum.

 

[Enigma SIG]

vigo with tinted glass fired off shots and ran away...thats dirty politics of Pakistan.... Khan should continue with naach gana like his brethren in pindi.

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Right so I assume you have weapons, are you planning a raid on Hamzas house in Model Town?

 

[Ghazwa-e-Hind]

Mere khayyal se ab Ghauri, Shaheen, Ababil, Al-khalid tank, Babar, Nasr missiles ko Shab-e-bar'at mein patakhay samajh ke phor dena chahye.

Kyunkay ab Pakistan mukammal tor pe NATO ki colony ban gaya hai regime change operation ka baad. Ab kisi se defend karnay ki zaroorat nahi. Amreeka ko jo mayi baap bana liya hai.

 

[TheSnakeEatingMarkhur]

vigo with tinted glass fired off shots and ran away...thats dirty politics of Pakistan.... Khan should continue with naach gana like his brethren in pindi.

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[Acetic Acid]

So party head can not be part of house and still can run the parliamentary or Senate affairs. Ashke tuhade te.

Even if he's part of assembly
Still he can't do anything if majority of Parliamentarians of his party are against him

 

[Jango]

The full excerpt which you quoted refers to the party head in it

Turning to the second question and keeping in mind the answer to the first, it is our view that the vote of any member (including a deemed member) of a Parliamentary Party in a House that is cast contrary to any direction issued by the latter in terms of para (b) of clause (1) of Article 63A cannot be counted and must be disregarded, and this is so regardless of whether the Party Head, subsequent to such vote, proceeds to take, or refrains from taking, action that would result in a declaration of defection. The second question referred to this Court stands answered in the foregoing terms. Turning to the second question and keeping in mind the answer to the first, it is our view that the vote of any member (including a deemed member) of a Parliamentary Party in a House that is cast contrary to any direction issued by the latter in terms of para (b) of clause (1) of Article 63A cannot be counted and must be disregarded, and this is so regardless of whether the Party Head, subsequent to such vote, proceeds to take, or refrains from taking, action that would result in a declaration of defection. The second question referred to this Court stands answered in the foregoing terms.

On Page 7 it references to Party head again

In case the Election Commission of Pakistan confirms the declaration sent by a Party Head against a member, he/she shall cease to be a Member of the House. As a result thereof, his/her seat shall become vacant.

You are mixing two things:

1- Voting in the assembly.

2- Declaration of defection.

According to the law, the voting of the member in the assembly is to be done according to the directions of the parliamentary party. This is the parliamentary head.

Now, if the member does not vote according to the parliamentary head, then the parliamentary head can write to the 'party' head and then the 'party' head declare him defected.

So, to declare someone as defected, the 'party' head is the authorized person.

But how will he declare someone defected? Only when he goes against the 'parliamentary' party.

I quoted the relevant sentence in the above quoted post. The bold part says 'declaration', which of defection.

Aitzaz Ahsan was on TV (ARY) and he explained the 'wisdom of the law'. In this case, the reason both steps are given to two different people is because in an ideal democracy, the party head looks over ALOT of affairs across the board, while the parliamentary party is more suited for deciding upon affairs within the assembly. So that is why, the parliamentary party should decide what to vote for within the assembly. The reason the declaration for defection is in the hands of the 'party' head is because the party head can take note of all the affairs which led to a member not voting according to the direction given. He may have COVID, or a broken leg, or in hospital, or whatever. There can be any compulsion that he couldn't vote, and the parliamentary leader cannot be made aware of those circumstances because he looks over parliamentary affairs, not those outside.

Hope you understand.

 

[Imran Khan]

iMRAN IS NOT A REVOLUTIONARY..... he will probably end like this... after sometime people wont even listen to his repeated words! he is digging his own grave!

he has no courge himself to stand up against system .

قوم کو سمجھ آئی کہ "ایسےبنا تھابنگلہ دیش "

 

[TheSnakeEatingMarkhur]

Even if he's part of assembly
Still he can't do anything if majority of Parliamentarians of his party are against him

Pervaiz Ilahi should simply kick Shujaat Husain out of chairmanship of PMLQ and bring vote of no confidence against Kukri. Simple as.


Even Wajahat Hussains son tweeted against his chacha Shujaat and Zardari.

 

[ghazi52]

..,,

 

[Acetic Acid]

Pervaiz Ilahi should simply kick Shujaat Husain out of chairmanship of PMLQ and bring vote of no confidence against Kukri. Simple as.

No wait for SC
That'll be quick

Deputy speaker will delay the voting on VONC for 2 weeks

 

[TheSnakeEatingMarkhur]

Even if he's part of assembly
Still he can't do anything if majority of Parliamentarians of his party are against him

Pervaiz Ilahi should simply kick Shujaat Husain out of chairmanship of PMLQ and bring vote of no confidence against Kukri. Simple as.


Even Wajahat Hussains son tweeted against his chacha Shujaat and Zardari.

You are mixing two things:

1- Voting in the assembly.

2- Declaration of defection.

According to the law, the voting of the member in the assembly is to be done according to the directions of the parliamentary party. This is the parliamentary head.

Now, if the member does not vote according to the parliamentary head, then the parliamentary head can write to the 'party' head and then the 'party' head declare him defected.

So, to declare someone as defected, the 'party' head is the authorized person.

But how will he declare someone defected? Only when he goes against the 'parliamentary' party.

I quoted the relevant sentence in the above quoted post. The bold part says 'declaration', which of defection.

Aitzaz Ahsan was on TV (ARY) and he explained the 'wisdom of the law'. In this case, the reason both steps are given to two different people is because in an ideal democracy, the party head looks over ALOT of affairs across the board, while the parliamentary party is more suited for deciding upon affairs within the assembly. So that is why, the parliamentary party should decide what to vote for within the assembly. The reason the declaration for defection is in the hands of the 'party' head is because the party head can take note of all the affairs which led to a member not voting according to the direction given. He may have COVID, or a broken leg, or in hospital, or whatever. There can be any compulsion that he couldn't vote, and the parliamentary leader cannot be made aware of those circumstances because he looks over parliamentary affairs, not those outside.

Hope you understand.

But will the (dis)honourable court decide according to these facts or the ones presented to them ?