Cleric terms Women’s Protection Bill contrary to Islamic Sharia

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

Law is not according to Quran and Sunnah and not even going to be implemented just another law to please west I know those who voted for this law are laughing at it.

Yeah, we know, thanks to the Mullah Super Force, the only laws that really get implemented in Pakistan are the "lets make Pakistan and Pakistanis even more stupid and Neandarthalish laws - aka the Blasphemy Laws".

 

[Spring Onion]

Law is not according to Quran and Sunnah and not even going to be implemented just another law to please west I know those who voted for this law are laughing at it.

Okay for a second we are all ears to you so now Tell us clearly what article/clause of this law is against Quran and Sunnah.

 

[shah_123]

WTF are you talking about ? Did you have read the law and for how many days a man can be barred from entering his house ?

Zarvan, You are such a educated illiterate that I dont know whether to laugh on you or cry at your pity state of mind. Neither you understand law nor you dont know the english, Nor you can proof what you are saying is written in the law. Nor you can proof that bill is reflecting the ground of women in Punjab instead of importing western crap.

If you have understood law so perfectly. Then Translate the law into Urdu. Lets see if it is against Quran and Sunnah. If you are unable to do, then STFU and dont comment on it further unless your thick head can understand what the Law is actually saying

You and your kind is so detached from the reality that you think everything is black and white. That instead of passing this law a women can get divorce so to avoid all this thing. But naaah you are not going to consider gray areas ?



Are you really living in Pakistan and knows what kind of things women has to go before she can attain a divorce ?



Shah, I dont need to sit with qualified scholar because I know there is not a single thing in law which is against Quran and Sunnah? How I know ? Because I understand english perfectly and knows what the law is saying.

Now the real question is. What is so western in the bill except the language english ? Please point a single thing in the bill which is directly imported from western society ?

Which Islamic laws deal with domestic issues that this bill has specifically covered ?


The problem with people like you is You are only good for giving generalized and sweeping statements like Khilafa is solution to all problems, Implementing Islam is solution to all problems blah blah blah but when it comes to dealing with Actual gray areas where Islam remains quite. The real mentality is then exposed of guys like you

One of the reasons I don't post much is the aggressive attitude, why the anger, why can't discuss things normally????

You might understand English, you might be PhD., but this doesn't mean you understand what's against Quran & Sunnah ---- A qualified Scholar is the one whose opinion will matter and you don't want to sit with him, WHY ; maybe because he will exactly point out the flaws which you don't like to listen?

Islam surely deals with every subject including domestic abuse, there are 1000's of books available, it's just you need some courage to open up books relating to Islamic laws.

 

[Zarvan]

Yeah, we know, thanks to the Mullah Super Force, the only laws that really get implemented in Pakistan are the "lets make Pakistan and Pakistanis even more stupid and Neandarthalish laws - aka the Blasphemy Laws".

Yes I know who are those people who have problem with Blasphemy law it's people who want abuse and insult RASOOL SAW but are scared to do so. As for this law it's dumb and not going to make women life easier

One of the reasons I don't post much is the aggressive attitude, why the anger, why can't discuss things normally????

You might understand English, you might be PhD., but this doesn't mean you understand what's against Quran & Sunnah ---- A qualified Scholar is the one whose opinion will matter and you don't want to sit with him, WHY ; maybe because he will exactly point out the flaws which you don't like to listen?

Islam surely deals with every subject including domestic abuse, there are 1000's of books available, it's just you need some courage to open up books relating to Islamic laws.

Some people are too inspired by western lies and hypocrisy and consider that as truth.

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

Islam surely deals with every subject including domestic abuse, there are 1000's of books available, it's just you need some courage to open up books relating to Islamic laws.

Multiple members have asked for specifics on:

1. How Islam supposedly punishes and/or deals with issues of domestic abuse against women
2. How is the current law against Islam

We have, as of yet, not received a single coherent response that offers detailed and specific answers to the two main questions above. Until the Mullahs and Mullah groupies offer responses to the above, there is nothing to debate because only one side, the side supporting the recent law that was passed, has actually shown up at the debate with any rational arguments.

 

[Zarvan]

Okay for a second we are all ears to you so now Tell us clearly what article/clause of this law is against Quran and Sunnah.

If a person commits violence if not serious than should be talked and put some sense into him if he again does something aggressive than if he is the owner of house you can't throw him out of the house. As for women she should leave house return to family get divorce and marry some sane person. If women owns house than she can ask husband to leave. As for putting tracker this will increase embarrassment for men which would lead to so called honor killing.

 

[shah_123]

Yes I know who are those people who have problem with Blasphemy law it's people who want abuse and insult RASOOL SAW but are scared to do so. As for this law it's dumb and not going to make women life easier


Some people are too inspired by western lies and hypocrisy and consider that as truth.

There are Islamic laws dealing with domestic violence, but the problem is our government and liberals don't like to hear the words Islamic laws ---

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

There are Islamic laws dealing with domestic violence, but the problem is our government and liberals don't like to hear the words Islamic laws ---

As I said in my post above, you Mullahs and Mullah groupies need to provide specific answers to the questions posed - what are these alleged laws and how is the recent law that was passed different from them?

 

[shah_123]

Multiple members have asked for specifics on:

1. How Islam supposedly punishes and/or deals with issues of domestic abuse against women
2. How is the current law against Islam

We have, as of yet, not received a single coherent response that offers detailed and specific answers to the two main questions above. Until the Mullahs and Mullah groupies offer responses to the above, there is nothing to debate because only one side, the side supporting the recent law that was passed, has actually shown up at the debate with any rational arguments.

I closely watch the behavior of members in this forum, don't expect from me to post Islamic material here ---- yes this is a good defence related forum and I have learnt alot from you people, but sorry to say this forum has a very rude/immature behaviour towards Islamic laws.

Most importantly, people should themselves find out the material relating to this issue --- We have all the time to do different stuff, why not just spare some time to read what Islam says on different issues.

Islam is not silent on any issue (like some people say), it's a complete system --- Quaide Azam understood this, unfortunately Our liberals don't.

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

I closely watch the behavior of members in this forum, don't expect from me to post Islamic material here ---- yes this is a good defence related forum and I have learnt alot from you people, but sorry to say this forum has a very rude/immature behaviour towards Islamic laws.

Most importantly, people should themselves find out the material relating to this issue --- We have all the time to do different stuff, why not just spare some time to read what Islam says on different issues.

Islam is not silent on any issue (like some people say), it's a complete system --- Quaide Azam understood this, unfortunately Our liberals don't.

So basically the gist of your long winded response is that you have no arguments to support claims that the recent law against domestic violence is 'un-Islamic'.

 

[shah_123]

As I said in my post above, you Mullahs and Mullah groupies need to provide specific answers to the questions posed - what are these alleged laws and how is the recent law that was passed different from them?

Excuse me! I am not a Mullah ---- I am as much educated from contemporary institutes as you are -- the good thing is, I didn't got influenced by the West --- I know my culture, I know my religion and I know what comes from West and I also know when the desi liberals speaks the language of West.

So basically the gist of your long winded response is that you have no arguments to support claims that the recent law against domestic violence is 'un-Islamic'.

Whatever makes you happy.

 

[Irfan Baloch]

I fully support and endorse his views.
our political and military leadership is busy in shameless and slavish pursuit of Appeasing Hindu Zionists and Christian crusaders and Klingon Warriors.

he should announce the gathering of all steadfast Muslim leadership of the county and plan a counter narrative and action against it. the pious and selfless Muslim sisters of Jamiyah Hafsa should be requested to assist the Muslim brothers by offering themselves for practical demonstration like they have offered themselves to pious Muslims in Iraq and Syria against the Persian & Russian Pagans.

the coordinates of the meeting should be uploaded on the internet to help all the faithful congregate there with ease. and to show true strength of faith ..it should be held inside North Waziristan to show the solidarity to the brothers who are fighting the Pagan and slave army of Pakistan. live streaming of the gatherings and use of satellite phones should be ensured to show the Crusaders and the slave army how the technology can be used for pious gathering to counter their pornographic law.

the Daesh handbook on Women treatment should be made mandatory read for all real and pious Muslims and read in the gathering while practically demonstrating it on Jamiay Hafsah sisters.
only through piety, truthfulness and real devotion can we turn the slave leadership of this country to rethink its sinful decision which wil only cause vice , vulgarity and fornication on every corner of Pakistan.

The results of this gatherings will be hopefully explosive and exemplary. no point in hiding inside the cities and condemning the shameful acts of slave leadership of Pakistan.

PS I offer to take footage of the proceedings from a "comfortable" distance and height.. about 2000 yards away to ensure I capture the "happening" of the entire gathering and dont interupt in any "proceedings"

 

[punit]

If a person commits violence if not serious than should be talked and put some sense into him if he again does something aggressive than if he is the owner of house you can't throw him out of the house. As for women she should leave house return to family get divorce and marry some sane person. If women owns house than she can ask husband to leave. As for putting tracker this will increase embarrassment for men which would lead to so called honor killing.

clapping slowly !

 

[Pakistani E]

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Excuse me! I am not a Mullah ---- I am as much educated from contemporary institutes as you are -- the good thing is, I didn't got influenced by the West --- I know my culture, I know my religion and I know what comes from West and I also know when the desi liberals speaks the language of West.



Whatever makes you happy.

So you don't have anything to say about the law apart from agreeing to the clerics because they say so? So if your favourite cleric says its halal to go blow yourself up in a market, you will say yesss sir?

 

[curious]

Plenty has been said regarding the problems of this law weather you see it from religious or non religious viewpoint.Check the preceding pages.