Cleric terms Women’s Protection Bill contrary to Islamic Sharia

[Talwar e Pakistan]

The same hadith with slightly different wording is: Narrated Mu'awiyah al-Qushayri: "I went to the Apostle of Allah (peace be upon him) and asked him: What do you say (command) about our wives? He replied: Give them food what you have for yourself, and clothe them by which you clothe yourself, and do not beat them, and do not revile them."

 

[Spring Onion]

All the power to the bill. It is need of the hour.

Molvi sahab should workout some mechanism for stopping issuing of one-sided decrees in cases of divorce since there are hundreds of such cases where men divorced their wives but the families go to local clerics and they get them decree that nullifies the divorce and thus the woman is sent back to husband.

 

[Zarvan]

All the power to the bill. It is need of the hour.

Molvi sahab should workout some mechanism for stopping issuing of one-sided decrees in cases of divorce since there are hundreds of such cases where men divorced their wives but the families go to local clerics and they get them decree that nullifies the divorce and thus the woman is sent back to husband.

This bill is only going to result in more violence and in fact turn that more brutal

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

and in fact even a worse husband when angry use to throw out of the house but women used to be alive and could be provided shelter by Government but after this law the violence may turn into murders.

Then the government will just have to sentence those murderous, violent bastards to death for their heinous crimes until society and violent, backward minded men finally get the message about 'growing up and becoming civilized decent human beings'.

making all crimes against the women an offence including domestic violence, emotional, psychological and economic abuse, verbal abuse, stalking, abetment of an offence, and cyber crimes.

According to the new law, a toll-free number (UAN) will also be introduced to receive complaints while a district protection committee will be setup to investigate women’s complaints in this regard.

Reacting to the development, Jamia Binoria International chief cleric Mufti Muhammad Naeem said in a statement that the bill was contrary to teachings of Holy Quran and Sunnah.

So per Mufit Muhammad Naeem, the Quran and Shariah explicitly order men to engage in domestic violence, emotional, psychological, economic and verbal abuse and stalking of women'.

What a wonderful interpretation of Islam these bearded Neanderthals promote, and Muslims still wonder why Muslim societies are so backward, violent and unable to compete.

Hint: It's not the CIA, Mossad, RAW ... it's our very own Islamic/religious scholars.

 

[Spring Onion]

This bill is only going to result in more violence and in fact turn that more brutal

How can you say that with conviction? tell us how?

As long as you are tolerating crimes against women in the name of your own twisted religious beliefs, a sane society cannot be created.

Why mullahs are worried if those are punished who commit crimes against women?

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

but it also doesn't say if violence happens than you throw man out of his own house. Than process is talk sense into him and if doesn't listen than contact Qazi and get a divorce. We are Muslims and we follow Quran and Sunnah and any attempt to follow western crap will fire back and will result in more violence. What Government needs to do is create women shelters that in case a family doesn't accept women back or she has no family than she can take shelter here until she gets divorce and Government instead of passing these dumb laws should make sure they provide here training and help her stand on her feet and getting married to some sane person.

Why should the woman (wife or daughter) have to suffer the consequences of living in a shelter or being homeless when the husband/father is the culprit perpetrating physical and/or emotional violence?

The law is correct - the violent individual (in this case the husband) should be the one punished and asked to leave the house, not the victim. Of course the same should apply in cases of domestic abuse where men are the victim, though such instances are extremely rare, especially in Pakistan.

 

[salarsikander]

Read the law almost each section is in contradiction with Quran and Sunnah

Hi,

Care to elaborate plz

 

[Zibago]

How can you say that with conviction? tell us how?

As long as you are tolerating crimes against women in the name of your own twisted religious beliefs, a sane society cannot be created.

Why mullahs are worried if those are punished who commit crimes against women?

M9htarma inko ronay do molvion ka kaam he yahe hay ignore karain

2006,10,11,13 mein bhe roye thay ronay do inko inka kaam he yahe hay

 

[Spring Onion]

M9htarma inko ronay do molvion ka kaam he yahe hay ignore karain

2006,10,11,13 mein bhe roye thay ronay do inko inka kaam he yahe hay

what a coincident was browsing news and got this Poem just watch and listen Molvi Sahab Janat mein

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=409598412523703

 

[Bratva]

Yes it says that off course it says that but it also doesn't say if violence happens than you throw man out of his own house. Than process is talk sense into him and if doesn't listen than contact Qazi and get a divorce. We are Muslims and we follow Quran and Sunnah and any attempt to follow western crap will fire back and will result in more violence. What Government needs to do is create women shelters that in case a family doesn't accept women back or she has no family than she can take shelter here until she gets divorce and Government instead of passing these dumb laws should make sure they provide here training and help her stand on her feet and getting married to some sane person.

WTF are you talking about ? Did you have read the law and for how many days a man can be barred from entering his house ?

Zarvan, You are such a educated illiterate that I dont know whether to laugh on you or cry at your pity state of mind. Neither you understand law nor you dont know the english, Nor you can proof what you are saying is written in the law. Nor you can proof that bill is reflecting the ground of women in Punjab instead of importing western crap.

If you have understood law so perfectly. Then Translate the law into Urdu. Lets see if it is against Quran and Sunnah. If you are unable to do, then STFU and dont comment on it further unless your thick head can understand what the Law is actually saying

You and your kind is so detached from the reality that you think everything is black and white. That instead of passing this law a women can get divorce so to avoid all this thing. But naaah you are not going to consider gray areas ?



Are you really living in Pakistan and knows what kind of things women has to go before she can attain a divorce ?

this bill is directly imported from the west, this is the Actual Problem, otherwise Islamic laws are always there to deal with the issue of domestic violence ---- there's no point in importing West thing, when we already have the solution to this problem.

regarding the Bill being contrary to Sharia,
sit down with a qualified scholar ( not a Mullah) and he will point out the clauses which are contrary to Sharia.

Shah, I dont need to sit with qualified scholar because I know there is not a single thing in law which is against Quran and Sunnah? How I know ? Because I understand english perfectly and knows what the law is saying.

Now the real question is. What is so western in the bill except the language english ? Please point a single thing in the bill which is directly imported from western society ?

Which Islamic laws deal with domestic issues that this bill has specifically covered ?


The problem with people like you is You are only good for giving generalized and sweeping statements like Khilafa is solution to all problems, Implementing Islam is solution to all problems blah blah blah but when it comes to dealing with Actual gray areas where Islam remains quite. The real mentality is then exposed of guys like you

 

[AHMED85]

How can you say that with conviction? tell us how?

As long as you are tolerating crimes against women in the name of your own twisted religious beliefs, a sane society cannot be created.

Why mullahs are worried if those are punished who commit crimes against women?

Simple, Pakistani society is differ from west, in our society parents keep save their child, even girl & boy friendship not tolerated.
Between law & society there is one thing exist is to not try violence on women, whereas parents keep punishing their child's whatever the gender is, because day to day moving media & technology expending psy ops strategy to promote own policy. So the childish mind are their fresh target.
So what is happening next, when parents will try little punish to save their beloved daughter, with the growing knowledge & environment of awareness will led her toward deviation. Indeed she will try police, clearly this law will imposed.

So if you need more clarification I will answer your questions which are arising in your mind.
But plz oppose this law, and don't create rules & regulations which are abuse by criminals to attend their goals.
Those who doing brutal activities with their wife's & women are also have condemnation from Islam. Need to address with alter ways which only hunting the criminals even male or females.
See Surat Noor & Surat Nisa for further info ( Holy Quran ).

 

[Spring Onion]

Simple, Pakistani society is differ from west, in our society parents keep save their child, even girl & boy friendship not tolerated.
Between law & society there is one thing exist is to not on violence on women, whereas parents keep punishing their child's whatever the gender is, because day to day moving media & technology expending psy ops strategy to promote own policy. So the childish mind are their fresh target.
So what is happening next, when parents will try little punish to save their beloved daughter, with the growing knowledge & environment of awareness will led her toward deviation. Indeed she will try police, clearly this law will imposed.
So if you need more clarification I will answer your questions which are arising in your mind.
But plz oppose this law, and don't create rules & regulations which are abuse by criminals to attend their goals.
Those who doing brutal activities with their wife's & women are also have condemnation from Islam. Need to address with alter ways which only hunting the criminals even male or females.
See Surat Noor for further info ( Holy Quran ).

Islam is against violence against women so this is bill is NOT at all against Islam.

 

[AHMED85]

Islam is against violence against women so this is bill is NOT at all against Islam.

Obviously islam opposed unwanted violence on women's. But with this law only social setting will distrub, once women reach to police in minor clash with family or husband, she only get divorce or money loss of her family. And those who actually commit violence also giving divorce.
We can handle both of categories via differ ways by sort out.
More especially you will going to get bundle of divorces in thanks according to this law. Just imaging how many family dispute cases are in the courts, & next more cases will submitted. But once in little violence male will face worse handling from females so I am sure he will divorce her wife or as a parent his life is to be hell.

We need to amendmend in this law according to conditions in violence.
There is difference in clash & brutal activities.

 

[Spring Onion]

Obviously islam opposed unwanted violence on women's. But with this law only social setting will distrub, once women reach to police in minor clash with family or husband, she only get divorce or money loss of her family. And those who actually commit violence also giving divorce.

Then be it. Because losing money and marriage is better than living with an abusive husband.

We can handle both of categories via differ ways by sort out.
More especially you will going to get bundle of divorces in thanks according to this law. Just imaging how many family dispute cases are in the courts, & next more cases will submitted. But once in little violence male will face worse handling from females so I am sure he will divorce her wife or as a parent his life is to be hell.

To save courts from having more cases we cannot leave women to their violent men. For that we need to revamp our courts and their working

We need to amendmend in this law according to conditions in violence.
There is difference in clash & brutal activities.

Indeed there is always a room for improvement.

 

[AHMED85]

Remembered in our society, divorced or dirty women who are declared as liberal women are not acceptable for decent males, where other only using & recycling them.

Now the decision is in the government & establishment court. What you wanna like to do with this country.
I have no personal issue in this regard, because I am single & we have checks to find women's of our minds & religion. But remember God is watching every one.