CIA chief Petraeus resigns over extramarital affair

[jhungary]

In intelligence work Sexual relationship in preterm condition always creating bad consequences...
And chines officials do 2 to 3 wife is due to one child policy..its is the real fact otherwise they avoid to do this...

No, Chinese people have 2 or 3 wife because they want to, not beause they want to have child as it wil lstill be the same, it's not like if you can't have a boy in your first wife, you can move on to marry another one and the count restart, it did not work that way

 

[PakShah]

lol, before you oakistan have power to conquer the world, that's how we dress our women and so what?? We invaded iraq and did we force iraqi women to dress like a prositute you said? our women don't dress in bikini in your land so why you bother to discredit our women into prositute? You live in the west i wonder? If you don't like our women, don't go to America or any western country, stay in your craphole, i don't care.

Plus you name 4 person and say all 1 billions of western are degenerate, wow, what kind of logic is that? But if you have logic, you wouldn't say while polygamy is ok but the man with wife looking at another woman is not ok. Well. Maybe only in pakistan??

Do remember you are discuss or discrediting a western man using a backward culture, you can say all western people are degenerate, and i can say all pakistan were living in a cave and backward so what? That does not mean anything



Petraeus did not got kicked out because he have an affair, because he is a potential leak of national security to people who should not be getting of those info.

Please don;t use the Iraq war, its the worst example to use.

Invaded Iraq to spread democracy by the sword. What a pathetic example to use. And then you claim you don't force your values upon others.

Ooops, you forgot that detail didn't you?

 

[jhungary]

lol, but USA, Canada, UK, France, Spain, claim to be a LAND OF FREEEEEEEEEDDDDDDDDOOOOOOOOOOMMM!



Which means... I can live where ever I want. LOL!

So? We have the freedom to dress our woman as a prositute, we have freedom to say whatever we want, we have the freedom to download pronography, i would like to see you get a passport and go to the west and live liek this, cos you will just die of a heart attack

You can live whereever you want IF ONLY you get an apporiate visa otherwise you will be deported back to your craphole

 

[PakShah]

lol, before you oakistan have power to conquer the world, that's how we dress our women and so what?? We invaded iraq and did we force iraqi women to dress like a prositute you said? our women don't dress in bikini in your land so why you bother to discredit our women into prositute? You live in the west i wonder? If you don't like our women, don't go to America or any western country, stay in your craphole, i don't care.

Plus you name 4 person and say all 1 billions of western are degenerate, wow, what kind of logic is that? But if you have logic, you wouldn't say while polygamy is ok but the man with wife looking at another woman is not ok. Well. Maybe only in pakistan??

Do remember you are discuss or discrediting a western man using a backward culture, you can say all western people are degenerate, and i can say all pakistan were living in a cave and backward so what? That does not mean anything



Petraeus did not got kicked out because he have an affair, because he is a potential leak of national security to people who should not be getting of those info.

Umm how are most of Pakistanis living in caves? You're just an ignorant dog who is ignorant of other societies.


Have you not heard of the famous Lahore fort in Lahore?

Have you heard of Darbar Mahal, or Darbar Palace?

Yes, it is true that Muslims are weak in this age and day, but atleast we don't go in bikinis, lol.

Lol, caves is that best you could come up with.



The Muslims have suffered a lot due to colonialism, territorial disputes, ceaseless wars.
However we all know that injustices don't prevail, because justice is something natural and something that everyone believes in and something everyone wants.

 

[PakShah]

So? We have the freedom to dress our woman as a prositute, we have freedom to say whatever we want, we have the freedom to download pronography, i would like to see you get a passport and go to the west and live liek this, cos you will just die of a heart attack

You can live whereever you want IF ONLY you get an apporiate visa otherwise you will be deported back to your craphole

Why should one live an immoral and disgusting lifestyle like downloading pornography or wearing bikinis.

No I won't die of a heart attack, because I won't so those things simply.

Funny part in the "land of freedom" one can be as conservative as they like. So whats your point?

Land of Freedom is not a "land of liberalism". Even Obama said to his fellow countrymen not use the "freedom" argument to push the agenda of liberalism.

 

[jhungary]

Umm how are most of Pakistanis living in caves? You're just an ignorant dog who is ignorant of other societies.


Have you not heard of the famous Lahore fort in Lahore?

Have you heard of Darbar Mahal, or Darbar Palace?

Yes, it is true that Muslims are weak in this age and day, but atleast we don't go in bikinis, lol.

Lol, caves is that best you could come up with.

LOL Whatever you say buddy, but figure out how to deal with the Indian first before commenting on the West, and talk about cave you would think about Bin Laden, was it hurt the US flew all the way to pakistan and you lot don't even know until the dust is clear? Oh wait a minute, according to you, this never exist... LOL and who commanded that overall operation in that period??

Oh oh oh, i forgot.... Is it General Petraeus?? Oh right he was ISAF chief when bin laden was killed on May 2011.

I see why you hate him now?? Hehe

Why should one live an immoral and disgusting lifestyle like downloading pornography or wearing bikinis.

No I won't die of a heart attack, because I won't so those things simply.

Funny part in the "land of freedom" one can be as conservative as they like. So whats your point?

Land of Freedom is not a "land of liberalism". Even Obama said to his fellow countrymen not use the "freedom" argument to push the agenda of liberalism.

my point is well, you live in your world i live in mine, you can go behead anyone you want in Afghanistan or pakistan and i keep on downloading my **** whatever you say will not change the west, so you can just bark on a far corner and think whatever is eveil is in the west, so what? What you said is useless, if you can sleep better at night if we say yeah, we are degenerate, we are infidel, we killed muslim, i killed muslim in Iraq and Afghanistan so what then?? Can you change anything?

If not would you please shut up, keep saying the west is corrupt will not make the west go down faster, nor will it make more people in the west convert to islam, and finally will not make our women don't dress as a prostitute.

I would rather live in a world that full of prostitute or a corrupt world then living in a world where you will get beheaded if you don't believe in islam, you will get beheaded if you commit adultery, or you will get beheaded just becuase some dude think you are too western.

LOL now for every immoral western post i will reply inhuman islamic response, do you want to see that happen? WHy don't you just save the post to something else and stop speaking how the west is corrupt, where is a place you don't live in and with no concern to you.

 

[LeGenD]

So you can tell me about my huge misconceptions?
It's a shame police departments in Europe are so politically correct there is no database on sexual offenders heritage/religion.

As I said, start a new thread on this theme.

How's this for taking Pakistan as a case in study? Sure sounds civilized to me, but ofcourse, those might only be my misconceptions. Thankfully, her family didnt succumb to the outside pressures of the "civilized".

Refusing to Kill Daughter, Pakistani Family Defies Tradition, Draws Anger/

Pakistani society is far from perfect. A noticeable chunk of populace within Pakistan does not properly adheres to Islamic teachings. Still Pakistani society is subject to lot of misconceptions and stereotyping in WEST.

Unfortunately, WEST isn't looking much better in current times in comparison after decades of internal decay. Heck, it is lot worse in some aspects. So the propaganda of civilized West no longer holds. Accept it and move on.

 

[PakShah]

LOL Whatever you say buddy, but figure out how to deal with the Indian first before commenting on the West, and talk about cave you would think about Bin Laden, was it hurt the US flew all the way to pakistan and you lot don't even know until the dust is clear? Oh wait a minute, according to you, this never exist... LOL and who commanded that overall operation in that period??

Oh oh oh, i forgot.... Is it General Petraeus?? Oh right he was ISAF chief when bin laden was killed on May 2011.

I see why you hate him now?? Hehe



my point is well, you live in your world i live in mine, you can go behead anyone you want in Afghanistan or pakistan and i keep on downloading my **** whatever you say will not change the west, so you can just bark on a far corner and think whatever is eveil is in the west, so what? What you said is useless, if you can sleep better at night if we say yeah, we are degenerate, we are infidel, we killed muslim, i killed muslim in Iraq and Afghanistan so what then?? Can you change anything?

If not would you please shut up, keep saying the west is corrupt will not make the west go down faster, nor will it make more people in the west convert to islam, and finally will not make our women don't dress as a prostitute.

I would rather live in a world that full of prostitute or a corrupt world then living in a world where you will get beheaded if you don't believe in islam, you will get beheaded if you commit adultery, or you will get beheaded just becuase some dude think you are too western.

LOL now for every immoral western post i will reply inhuman islamic response, do you want to see that happen? WHy don't you just save the post to something else and stop speaking how the west is corrupt, where is a place you don't live in and with no concern to you.

I don't hate Petreaus for the Bin Laden raid. I believe hes a morally bankrupt pig who just wants pleasure. Look you think Muslims will behead you in Afghanistan and Pakistan just because you look western?

You are such embarassingly stupid person. Nobody would behead you just because you look western.
Sure, there will be kids looking at the westerners with curious eyes as to why westerners are wearing blue jeans and t-shirts, when everyone else wears a Shalwar Kameez suit.



You can be rest-assured noone would behead you just because of your looks. We not racists like the USA used to be to the Blacks.

Remember how the blacks used to be treated in the USA.

Those social issues in Pakistan, is because Sharia law in not completely implemented in Pakistan. If it was, there be nearly no crimes or injustices agianst the populace.

Thats why everyone wants Sharia law in Pakistan. There would be good governance, people would be scared to death to commit a crime, and everyone would know their place in society (especially some of the politicians who think they can misuse or abuse their powers).


lol, you you crying and shouting like a little girl because I exposed your stupidity on the Iraq war.

The Iraq war was a great injustice. What did the Iraqi people deserve to be invaded. They had nothing to do with 9/11.

Keep barking like dog, we all know whoes right and wrong. the Fair-minded memebers are with me. As you can see.


Ha, and talking about lies like beheading, will not defame Islam. You are just a liar. no one would kill you if are a "westerner" in Pakistan or Afghanistan.

Maybe people would think you are tourist. I know many westerners who go to Afghanistan to see the famous Blue Masjid in Mazar-i-Sharif, and many westerners who go to Pakistan to study Indus River Civilization at Harappa and Mohenjo-Daro.

Stop being liar.

LOL, you want to turn into a contest? lol.

Well, thats what you are turning into, isn't it. Please just go away, you're worth my time or other people's times, not liar like you.

About your point living in "my world" and "your world", get a life.

what does beheading innocent people have to do with Islam?

Do you think I don't read your posts. What does living in my world have to do with beheading anyone I like.

So if there are Muslims living in France, they can behead anyone they like?

Afterall France is their country and their world too you know, since France claims to be a LAND OF FREEDOM.

Grow up you idiot, beheading innocent people have nothing to do with Islam.

You are pretty stupid for making comments like that. Same thing goes for how you tried to use "Mullah" as a pejorative.

You are just being an "immoral" westerner. Spreading lies and hatred on the internet.

 

[PakShah]

lol in refuting the Indian thing that jhungry said.

Don't worry, we have them under control. They know we have nuclear weapons.

And if having Pakistan as enemy wasn't bad enough, they also have China as an enemy too.

lol, look at jhungry's desperation as he tries to associate beheading innocent people to Muslims of Pakistan and Afghanistan.

Shows his inferiority complex. He's running out of arguements. He uses "caves." Is that all?

Just shows how stupid the westerners are, lol, I met many westerners who think Saudi Arabians still ride camels. lol.

This is not the 1950's, when Saudi Arabia was not developed.
Saudi Arabia is very different country from it was even from the 1970's!

Give it up, get lost!

Yes, Pakistan is far from perfect, Insh'Allah Sharia law will be implemented completely in Pakistan, and not just partially.

 

[Cloakedvessel]

This is a huge misconception.

Ever been to Lahore? Visit it and tell me if what you said holds true or not.

Lahore is a city of millions of people and is therefore a good center for a case study.

No, I haven't been to Lahore, but I have been to places like Egypt, Morocco and Tunisia, and let me say this, the much repeated respect for women, that I could not find there.

That may be the case in your experience in your home town, but using your own experience to form general conclusions about millions of people and the rest of society, does not mean that what you say reflects the general picture. One needs to look at the trends and developments presented in the media, to see a different picture than what you're claiming:

Sexual Harassment of women on the streets of Pakistan- by Shazia Nawaz*|*LUBP

BBC NEWS | South Asia | Pakistan's taboo on sex abuse

The Creepy Men Of Pakistan's Sexual Harassment Calendar

Eve teasing, sexual harassment rampant in overcrowded buses in Pakistan capital | Pakistan News

Pakistan News - Ladies-only buses launched in Lahore to save women from sexual harassment

Varsity teacher suspended for harassing girls | DAWN.COM

Associated Press Of Pakistan ( Pakistan's Premier NEWS Agency ) - President signs bill to protect women against harassment at workplace

Maheen Usmani: Pakistan's Sexual Harassment Problem

Please get lost, your face saving attempts of your society is futile. LOL

Do you ever hear Pakistani, Saudi, Egyptian, Iranian, Even Turkish leaders getting sexual scandals, having to admit to the world like Bill Clinton that "they did not have sex with that woman."

Do you ever of Chinese leaders, Russian, Indian, Indonesian, Thai, Japanese leaders getting involved in sex scandals,

How come in the US. Ironically USA considers themselves to be one of the more religious countries of the west, but how they are not.

lol, our women don;t dress like prostitutes. Your women like to dress bikinis, reveal the arms, the legs, the belly, even wear thongs.


So please, and I'm glad I'm annoying you, because the sex scandal done by your leaders are even more annoying to me, because I want to live in civilized world, not a wild world where people think gay rights or having sex with random women or men is ok?
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Got that. Seriously get a life! Prostitution in China is banned, but interestingly prostitution is legal in the USA.

LOL

please even your tv shows the girlfriend culture, the pronographic culture, going bikinis, men wearing shorts, men going shirtless.

Your prostitute culture knows no bounds.

Your local mullah is a very poor substitute for information of what happens out there in the world.
Every nation you named, has its own share of political sex scandals over the years. The country which your pride yourself to be allied with so often, China, their most revered leader Mao, as a member pointed out, was the epitome of sexual indecency.
Why your mullah hasn't told you to hate the Chinese beats me, because the China you hold so dear is all about infidels, heathens and atheism. Not a very good source, like I said. Try harder.

 

[PakShah]

No, I haven't been to Lahore, but I have been to places like Egypt, Morocco and Tunisia, and let me say this, the much repeated respect for women, that I could not find there.

That may be the case in your experience in your home town, but using your own experience to form general conclusions about millions of people and the rest of society, does not mean that what you say reflects the general picture. One needs to look at the trends and developments presented in the media, to see a different picture than what you're claiming:

Sexual Harassment of women on the streets of Pakistan- by Shazia Nawaz*|*LUBP

BBC NEWS | South Asia | Pakistan's taboo on sex abuse

The Creepy Men Of Pakistan's Sexual Harassment Calendar

Eve teasing, sexual harassment rampant in overcrowded buses in Pakistan capital | Pakistan News

Pakistan News - Ladies-only buses launched in Lahore to save women from sexual harassment

Varsity teacher suspended for harassing girls | DAWN.COM

Associated Press Of Pakistan ( Pakistan's Premier NEWS Agency ) - President signs bill to protect women against harassment at workplace

Maheen Usmani: Pakistan's Sexual Harassment Problem




Your local mullah is a very poor substitute for information of what happens out there in the world.
Every nation you named, has its own share of political sex scandals over the years. The country which your pride yourself to be allied with so often, China, their most revered leader Mao, as a member pointed out, was the epitome of sexual indecency.
Why your mullah hasn't told you to hate the Chinese beats me, because the China you hold so dear is all about infidels, heathens and atheism. Not a very good source, like I said. Try harder.

Just posting links doesn't prove your point.
Pakistan's has much less problems when it comes to rape and prostitution compared to the western countries.

It is much less in Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, and in other Muslim countries when compared to western countries.

lol, you talking about respect for women in societies.

In western societies, women are degraded on catwalks looking as prostitutes, dressing indecently how they are portrayed in their media on billboards.

Always there ads pressuring girls to look "beautiful" and what not. And if they don;t have this and that they miserable their whole lives.

Stop using mullah as pejorative. Anyways, you should tell your leaders to stop behaving like horny goats and sticking to prostitute like people like Lewinsky.

And why should my religious leaders tell me to hate China. They have done nothing wrong to us.

They don;t invade us, kill us, try to enforce democracy, their perception of women's rights.

Therefore we have no problem with them.

lol, the Iraq war - illegal savage war. George w Bush is indeed a idiotic war criminal who should tried for crimes against humanity!

Even the Canadians hate him lol !

 

[Mercenary]

^^ This thread veered off course.

 

[terranMarine]

So? We have the freedom to dress our woman as a prositute, we have freedom to say whatever we want, we have the freedom to download pronography, i would like to see you get a passport and go to the west and live liek this, cos you will just die of a heart attack

You can live whereever you want IF ONLY you get an apporiate visa otherwise you will be deported back to your craphole

Say whatever you want in America land of freedom? Weren't you trying to tell me it was illegal to call someone naturalized American?

You know not too long ago a Sikh community was being attacked by an American in the land of freedom so don't act as if muslims go on rampage beheading people because they are infidel. The poor Indians got murdered because some racist felt he needed to let go of some of his frustration.

 

[Audio]

How is a Mullah a derogatory term? A Mullah just means someone who is well-learned in the religion.

Are they really well learned in religion? Does that well-learning allow advocating bloodshed and war?

Are you advocating a war on Islam? I hope you are not.

Isn't that what your Obama said," USA will never be at war with Islam.

I never mentioned war, Islam, USA. How you made that up i do not know. We are currently discussing "morality and ethics" of religious people vs. non religious people in the relation of Gen. Petraeus' Affair.

Rest of your post is just garbage and worthy of responding to.

 

[Cloakedvessel]

Just posting links doesn't prove your point.

It debunks the myth of Islamic countries being safe havens for women, where the females are free from sexual harassment, like some of you guys claim.

Pakistan's has much less problems when it comes to rape and prostitution compared to the western countries.

80% of the 3000 women that are in prison in Pakistan today for adultery are actually there of the 'crime' of being raped.

What many of you see as adultery back home, sane people would see it as rape.

So cut the crap, you're not fooling anybody.

It is much less in Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, and in other Muslim countries when compared to western countries.

lol, you talking about respect for women in societies.

In western societies, women are degraded on catwalks looking as prostitutes, dressing indecently how they are portrayed in their media on billboards.

Always there ads pressuring girls to look "beautiful" and what not. And if they don;t have this and that they miserable their whole lives.

Stop using mullah as pejorative. Anyways, you should tell your leaders to stop behaving like horny goats and sticking to prostitute like people like Lewinsky.

And why should my religious leaders tell me to hate China. They have done nothing wrong to us.

They don;t invade us, kill us, try to enforce democracy, their perception of women's rights.

Therefore we have no problem with them.

lol, the Iraq war - illegal savage war. George w Bush is indeed a idiotic war criminal who should tried for crimes against humanity!

Even the Canadians hate him lol !

Utter and incoherent nonsense, not even worthy of a rebuttal. Some of you're memes I have addressed in an earlier post, so I'm not repeating myself.

^^ This thread veered off course.

You're right, and that's why I'm disengaging from this topic.