Christmas train to spread tolerance in Pakistan

[PakGuns]

Everyone here going all gaga against this train should know that this is sign of a open minded society and is a sign of freedom for every Pakistani national..

 

[I S I]

Everyone here going all gaga against this train should know that this is sign of a open minded society and is a sign of freedom for every Pakistani national..

Too many extremist minded Pakistanis are living abroad. Hope they won't join ISIS or something.

 

[KAL-EL]

Merry Christmas to all Pakistani Christians.

 

[DJ_Viper]

What the heck are you talking about...Why are you lying and distorting the truth?

Where is the lie in my post? Can't handle the truth?

I would appreciate if some Muslim people contributed as a group or community to celebrate Christmas, for example, Muslim farmers in a small village built the Church which was destroyed in a flood, I totally appreciate that rather if I could contribute, I would have done so.
I give my christian employees an allowance for Christmas, holidays to celebrate and a Christmas dinner from my own pocket but that's not the point. That's my personal act. I hope you try to understand what I stand for. I'm for the rights of minorities.

You, as always are contradicting your own stance. Go back to the first post I involved you in as I answered yours. You said "our money or resources are being abused", referring to the pictures of a Train with Xmas pictures, paint, etc. So you obviously thought that the money spent on something to create tolerance was a waste. This train with a few thousand dollars worth of paint, etc, would travel the country and people, especially young people would realize and memorize the fact that there are Christian Pakistanis.

So on one hand, a little money spent to put a smile and some comfort on Christian Pakistanis faces, makes you feel like its a waste of your resources, now you are saying that you pay your employees from your pocket for the XMas. So which one is it? Spending money on Christians is waste as per your first comment? And if that's so, why are you doing it yourself but questioning the government of Pakistan who has a right to provide for its citizens, be it Muslims, or Christians or Jews??

We in England frankly do not receive anything like this type of news/features. Our UK BBC is quite biased. Thankfully I can gain lots of information on this site.

I'm a white, English Christian (ex army - hence the military connection) and as such I admire the balance of the comments on this site. You are not Muslim extremists that are the ogres of every city west of Moscow. I have actually seen much more tolerance on this site than some British military sites. Keep on doing what you do guys. It is appreciated.

Oh, I do not celebrate Eid but I do make an effort. I make a mean baklava for my Muslim friends on that day.Not a big thing admittedly. Its a recognition that it is important for my Muslim friends.

It is hugely important that we understand each other and what the differences are.

Your bold statement above is very pronounced and deep in meaning. If only people can understand that we can all live together, and be happy together sharing this world, even with our differences. These small little things go a long way!!

With all due respect let the Christian celebrate their celebration on their own expense not on government expense were the ruling party is doing its for their benefit by putting their leader photo.

They pay taxes to the government of Pakistan, they also are born citizens of your country and your own flag shows the makeup of your country and it includes minorities!

Remember, the purpose of your own existence out of India, was due to you being a minority and you wanted a place to live peacefully and practice your belief system, etc. So for the principles your forefather struggled and built your country, you'd deny your own minorities the same principles and a little happiness? You should be ashamed of yourself.

 

[Dawood Ibrahim]

Where is the lie in my post? Can't handle the truth?



You, as always are contradicting your own stance. Go back to the first post I involved you in as I answered yours. You said "our money or resources are being abused", referring to the pictures of a Train with Xmas pictures, paint, etc. So you obviously thought that the money spent on something to create tolerance was a waste. This train with a few thousand dollars worth of paint, etc, would travel the country and people, especially young people would realize and memorize the fact that there are Christian Pakistanis.

So on one hand, a little money spent to put a smile and some comfort on Christian Pakistanis faces, makes you feel like its a waste of your resources, now you are saying that you pay your employees from your pocket for the XMas. So which one is it? Spending money on Christians is waste as per your first comment? And if that's so, why are you doing it yourself but questioning the government of Pakistan who has a right to provide for its citizens, be it Muslims, or Christians of Jews??



Your bold statement above is very pronounced and deep in meaning. If only people can understand that we can all live together, and be happy together sharing this world, even with our differences. These small little things go a long way!!



They pay taxes to the government of Pakistan, they also are born citizens of your country and your own flag shows the makeup of your country and the purpose of your own existence out of India, was due to you being a minority and you wanted a place to live peacefully and practice your belief system. So for the principles your forefather struggled and built your country, you'd deny your own minorities a little happiness? You should be ashamed of yourself.

No doubt they are our own citizens. Don't be the hero of your words by writing some unholy words. Nothing to be shamed when saying something is written right. And i like them but
this event was a commercial Christmas. That's why our PM picture was on train. And if you have any shame please go donate your whole money and property to our people otherwise don't act as if you care !

 

[Reichsmarschall]

Merry Christmas to all Pakistani Christians.

marry Christmas to all Christians all around the world

 

[Sugarcane]

This white strip on the flag represents the role of religious minorities in the nation. It's important to recognize them. I wonder how many Pakistanis actually know this.

What about danda in white strip?

 

[Levina]

The Pakistani santa claus will be in green, the original colour.

Just 2 days back i came to know that RED santa claus was introduced by Coca-cola company. Lol

Santa claus had a salesman job in the ad.



http://www.coca-colacompany.com/stories/coke-lore-santa-claus

 

[war&peace]

So on one hand, a little money spent to put a smile and some comfort on Christian Pakistanis faces, makes you feel like its a waste of your resources, now you are saying that you pay your employees from your pocket for the XMas. So which one is it? Spending money on Christians is waste as per your first comment? And if that's so, why are you doing it yourself but questioning the government of Pakistan who has a right to provide for its citizens, be it Muslims, or Christians or Jews??

Well, first of all, the pain job alone will not be in thousands...as the things are under this corrupt govt, I'm pretty sure will be charged in millions. Furthermore, if the govt spends money building some hospital and schools in areas where Christians live, it will be okay but govt shouldn't spend money of the tax payer on their religious events or buildings like churches....because by doing this they will set a precedence and then the majority will be justified in demanding the same from the govt so either govt does it for everyone proportionally or for none.

What about danda in white strip?

What do you mean?

Doesn't mean you should treat the small minority below standards and inhumanely? They are people too. And if you can think out of your box, imagine this story running on the global media. Let me give you a narrative of how standard American, German or now French and others would see it "Pakistan taking steps to become a tolerant and modern country for all, and with her growing economy, it has a lot of potential".

I said that you are lying because how come you equate my objection to wasting taxpayers money on some religious event to suppressing the minority and treating them as lesser humans?
So if the govt did not run this train, the christians will be suppressed? Is that what you mean?

 

[Well.wisher]

yet you feel proud if a non Muslim say or does anything Islamic, you happily share videos and pictures of a white woman wearing Pakistani green and chanting Pakistan Zindabad or White man wearing Shalwar Kameez saying Eid Mubarak to others.

No I don't have any interest in such kiddiii things . My level is above that all .

As a muslim , it's my duty to protect minorities and their rights in my country as my religion orders me so but what's saddening me is that this is just a show off , no real step taken to improve life standard of Christians .

A christian maid works in my house and her son is severaly sick because she didn't have money for his operation and medicine . And here these looney tunes are wasting money on an elegant train just to show off where in reality all christians donot enjoy such lavishness .

And oh yes , if I had any authority I would never celebrate their religious events like this because a muslim should keep himself away from every shirk.
I would've rather spent money on their welfare . Khuda b raazi , makhlooq b raazi .,

Let them celebrate it own selves .

 

[Devil Soul]

What about danda in white strip?

thats for Anti Pak elements

 

[xyxmt]

No I don't have any interest in such kiddiii things . My level is above that all .

As a muslim , it's my duty to protect minorities and their rights in my country as my religion orders me so but what's saddening me is that this is just a show off , no real step taken to improve life standard of Christians .

A christian maid works in my house and her son is severaly sick because she didn't have money for his operation and medicine . And here these looney tunes are wasting money on an elegant train just to show off where in reality all christians donot enjoy such lavishness .

And oh yes , if I had any authority I would never celebrate their religious events like this because a muslim should keep himself away from every shirk.

Let them celebrate it own selves .

I do not know if there is a rocker switch you can turn on/off for Christian Life improvements, its a process not a switch. Some people want govt to stop spending on infra projects and start generating job for people and some of us wants to improve minorities life without putting any show

 

[Well.wisher]

I do not know if there is a rocker switch you can turn on/off for Christian Life improvements, its a process not a switch. Some people want govt to stop spending on infra projects and start generating job for people and some of us wants to improve minorities life without putting any show

It should be both but first of all improve their life standards , then they can proudly show off to the world that pakistan gives us all rights . .

 

[DJ_Viper]

Well, first of all, the pain job alone will not be in thousands...as the things are under this corrupt govt, I'm pretty sure will be charged in millions.

You lost your argument. Here goes the conspiracy theories. Allow me to put your head back to where it belongs. Your statement that drew me into this post wasn't anything with the government. It was the train painted for Christian community and your sadness over it that "this is a waste of your resources". I can assure you, if I audited you and your family, you and your family, more than likely will owe a few millions worth of taxes to the state of Pakistan. Here, you'd talk about the corrupt government. Psychology tells you a corrupt person will call others corrupt to hide their own. Its how human mind works, it tells you that you are clean and others are corrupt, when you are neck deep into it.

I said that you are lying because how come you equate my objection to wasting taxpayers money on some religious event to suppressing the minority and treating them as lesser humans?
So if the govt did not run this train, the Christians will be suppressed? Is that what you mean?

No, your initial post had nothing to do with the train. In fact, you tried to justify your stance a few times and now there is corrupt government, like corrupt Pakistanis like yourself. If you want us to believe in "hear say", well hear say means you have also done corruption. Have you? No matter what the answer is, it is gossip from my end. Just like it is gossip from your end on everything where the government is corrupt.

And the Christians have been, and will be oppressed by people like you, and the bearded one's who sympathize with Taliban terrorists. I thin the argument has ended.

 

[M. Sarmad]

Too many extremist minded Pakistanis are living abroad. Hope they won't join ISIS or something.

"Lanat on those Pakistani expats reaping the fruits of liberty, equality and justice in the western world but denying the same ideals to their own country." says @RAMPAGE