CHP raises concerns over Israel’s apology

[Rostam]

CHP raises concerns over Israel’s apology

ANKARA - Hürriyet Daily News

CHP deputy chair Faruk Loğoğlu said that US President Barack Obama is the architect of the apology process.

Main opposition Republican People’s Party (CHP) deputy chair Faruk Loğoğlu has dismissed Israel’s formal apology to Turkey over the Mavi Marmara killings of 2010, stressing that Israel’s apology came after a push from U.S. President Barack Obama. “If someone is to be congratulated, President Obama, who is the architect of the process, should be congratulated,” Loğoğlu said at a press conference in Parliament yesterday.

The delay, timing and method of Israel’s apology caused concerns, according to Loğoğlu. “Is this development a prologue to new conflicts in the region, or does it herald a peaceful and stable era for the region?” Loğoğlu asked.

In addition, CHP deputy Osman Korutürk asked Foreign Minister Davutoğlu to reveal scripts of telephone conversation in which Israeli Prime Minister Binyamin Netenyahu expressed a formal apology to Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdoğan. “Has Turkey made a commitment to a joint operation with Israel and the U.S. against Syria as well as against Iraq and Iran as next phases in return for Israel’s apology?” Korutürk asked Davutoğlu.

CHP seeks to censure FM

Meanwhile, the CHP has tabled a motion of censure against Davutoğlu over alleged secret energy deals with Iraq’s Kurdistan Regional Government (KRG).

“The government has signed secret and express agreements that would cause the division of our country and in Iraq as well. By way of such agreements, certain private companies obtained concessions from the government,” CHP deputy Aytun Çıray said. Çıray recently claimed that Turkey and the KRG secretly signed a “framework agreement” last year that outlined transportation and marketing of oil and gas sources in northern Iraq to the global market by excluding the central government in Baghdad.

“This deal is legally problematic. Signing a deal with the KRG instead of Iraq’s central government and adopting that deal without parliamentary consent is an unconstitutional act by the government and Foreign Minister,” Çıray said. “By signing a deal, Turkey recognized the KRG as a state that would bring Iraq to the brink of dissolution. Our foreign policy means that the integrity of Iraq was breached in this way,” Çıray said.

Arguing that an offshore company was founded by Turkey as part of the secret agreement, Çıray asserted that companies whose owners are close to the Turkish government are the shareholders in the offshore company.

Having issued a parliamentary question about the secret deal, Çıray said he had not received a response from Davutoğlu yet.

March/26/2013

POLITICS - CHP raises concerns over Israel

 

[Yuuki]

 

[Rostam]

How much public support does CPH have in Turkey?

 

[what]

Its 27% currently.
POLITICS - AKP

 

[Medic2]

I don't think their concern is unreasonable. There was absolutely no sign of them apologizing, then in one quick shot (while tensions with Iran were continuing to increase), Obama came and forced the kids to make up.

I think the outcome of the apology can go one of two ways.

1) Yes, US/Israel may be up to something and they want/need Turkey's support. Perhaps throwing a few weapons and an apology in Turkeys way, they got us to co-operate.

2) Israel/US really is concerned about the safety of the Israeli people, and they believe having a powerful ally in the region is an important factor, and they leave it at that.

I am personally leaning towards number two, simply because Turkey has been quite "prickly" and "defiant" as far as US or Israeli foreign policy goes in the past decade or so, regardless of what the US has been throwing in the deal for them. For example, America's invasion of Iraq (Turkey would have none of it), or consistent condemnation of Israel anytime they launch some sort of offensive.

Despite the improvements Erdogan has made for the country I don't trust him at all, but when it comes to him stating he wishes for peace and no war, or his history of favoring/leaning towards Arab/Muslim interests over the Wests, I'm not concerned about Turkey getting into any type of regional conflict.

Edit:

And just to add, its not like there was no benefit for Turkey just for accepting Israels apology. I'm proud of my country (as many of us are), but we cant let that blind us - we are not a superpower, we are located in a very tough neighbourhood, we are still a developing nation, and we need STABLE technologically and financially advanced countries as allies until we can become self sufficient in those respects (and even when we hit that point its important to maintain those relationships). Turkey and Israel's mutual needs fit us as perfect allies imo. I just hope Erdogan doesn't go along and look for a silly excuse to turn relations sour again because of his own personal stance.

 

[TurAr]

I don't think their concern is unreasonable. There was absolutely no sign of them apologizing, then in one quick shot (while tensions with Iran were continuing to increase), Obama came and forced the kids to make up.

I think the outcome of the apology can go one of two ways.

1) Yes, US/Israel may be up to something and they want/need Turkey's support. Perhaps throwing a few weapons and an apology in Turkeys way, they got us to co-operate.

2) Israel/US really is concerned about the safety of the Israeli people, and they believe having a powerful ally in the region is an important factor, and they leave it at that.

I am personally leaning towards number two, simply because Turkey has been quite "prickly" and "defiant" as far as US or Israeli foreign policy goes in the past decade or so, regardless of what the US has been throwing in the deal for them. For example, America's invasion of Iraq (Turkey would have none of it), or consistent condemnation of Israel anytime they launch some sort of offensive.

Despite the improvements Erdogan has made for the country I don't trust him at all, but when it comes to him stating he wishes for peace and no war, or his history of favoring/leaning towards Arab/Muslim interests over the Wests, I'm not concerned about Turkey getting into any type of regional conflict.

Edit:

And just to add, its not like there was no benefit for Turkey just for accepting Israels apology. I'm proud of my country (as many of us are), but we cant let that blind us - we are not a superpower, we are located in a very tough neighbourhood, we are still a developing nation, and we need STABLE technologically and financially advanced countries as allies until we can become self sufficient in those respects (and even when we hit that point its important to maintain those relationships). Turkey and Israel's mutual needs fit us as perfect allies imo. I just hope Erdogan doesn't go along and look for a silly excuse to turn relations sour again because of his own personal stance.

Good analysis/observation. You should send those more often mate.

But i must say, this is a legitimate concern:

Has Turkey made a commitment to a joint operation with Israel and the U.S. against Syria as well as against Iraq and Iran as next phases in return for Israel’s apology?” Korutürk asked Davutoğlu.

 

[madmusti]

Stop starting new Topics ,we have already enough Topics about Politics.

We have too the answers in the old Topics ,so stop this *************.

 

[T-123456]

I don't think their concern is unreasonable. There was absolutely no sign of them apologizing, then in one quick shot (while tensions with Iran were continuing to increase), Obama came and forced the kids to make up.

I think the outcome of the apology can go one of two ways.

1) Yes, US/Israel may be up to something and they want/need Turkey's support. Perhaps throwing a few weapons and an apology in Turkeys way, they got us to co-operate.

2) Israel/US really is concerned about the safety of the Israeli people, and they believe having a powerful ally in the region is an important factor, and they leave it at that.

I am personally leaning towards number two, simply because Turkey has been quite "prickly" and "defiant" as far as US or Israeli foreign policy goes in the past decade or so, regardless of what the US has been throwing in the deal for them. For example, America's invasion of Iraq (Turkey would have none of it), or consistent condemnation of Israel anytime they launch some sort of offensive.

Despite the improvements Erdogan has made for the country I don't trust him at all, but when it comes to him stating he wishes for peace and no war, or his history of favoring/leaning towards Arab/Muslim interests over the Wests, I'm not concerned about Turkey getting into any type of regional conflict.

Edit:

And just to add, its not like there was no benefit for Turkey just for accepting Israels apology. I'm proud of my country (as many of us are), but we cant let that blind us - we are not a superpower, we are located in a very tough neighbourhood, we are still a developing nation, and we need STABLE technologically and financially advanced countries as allies until we can become self sufficient in those respects (and even when we hit that point its important to maintain those relationships). Turkey and Israel's mutual needs fit us as perfect allies imo. I just hope Erdogan doesn't go along and look for a silly excuse to turn relations sour again because of his own personal stance.

The problem is,we can never know what his next move will be.

 

[-SINAN-]

Stop starting new Topics ,we have already enough Topics about Politics.

We have too the answers in the old Topics ,so stop this *************.

We should have a Topic named Turkish Politics and people should post related articles there. So much politic threads being made nowadays.