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In a dogfight mirroring the geopolitical intrigue on the ground, Asian fighter jets will jockey for billion-dollar military contracts and international clout when they take to the skies at the Bahrain Air Show that opens on Thursday.
This will be the first time India’s home-made Tejas combat plane makes an appearance at a foreign air show, seeking to offer an alternative to the JF-17 Thunder built jointly by rivals China and Pakistan. The debut is being closely watched as it comes on the heels of intense Indian diplomatic manoeuvres that forced Sri Lanka to back out of a deal to buy the Chinese-Pakistani jet, putting the kibosh on the already sputtering plans to broaden JF-17’s market.

So far Myanmar and Nigeria are said to be the only ones to have bought JF-17, or FC-1 Xiaolong, as it is known in China. Following that deal in July last year, Sri Lanka was the brightest hope after Malaysia last month denied media reports it was considering buying the jet.

India’s efforts to peddle military aviation have been no less bumpy. In October, Ecuador scrapped a contract for its Dhruv military helicopters after reporting that four of the seven it had bought had crashed and the rest were grounded.
“India is keen to demonstrate the credibility of Tejas and offer it as an alternative to the JF-17. But it’s still a work in progress, albeit in the final stages, before it enters squadron service. The air show will be an opportunity to prove its mettle,” said C. Uday Bhaskar, retired commodore and director of the Society for Policy Studies in New Delhi.

Both Tejas and JF-17 are light, low-maintenance, and cheaper alternatives to Russian and Western jets. The first Tejas prototype flew in January 2001 while the first JF-17 prototype in 2003. But their flight paths couldn’t have been more different. While JF-17 is in service and ready to be bought, Tejas has been plagued by delays. More than three decades in the making, it is yet to be inducted.

Efforts to speed up Tejas’ induction and put it out on the international market have picked up under the Narendra Modi government, which is looking to encourage domestic military production as part of its ‘Make in India’ campaign to revive economic growth and wean the country off expensive defence imports.

“The Sri Lanka experience has given this issue a certain urgency and visibility that Delhi has internalised,” said Bhaskar.

Colombo was expected to sign a deal to purchase up to 12 JF-17s during Pakistani Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif’s state visit there this month. Considered a done deal, there was, however, no mention of JF-17 during the trip. After Sharif left, Sri Lanka’s defence minister denied that JF-17 was even discussed.

It is still not clear if the deal has been canned for good and none of the parties involved will officially say India had a part in nixing it. But government sources in New Delhi told the South China Morning Post that the Indian High Commissioner in Colombo met the Sri Lankan foreign minister shortly before Sharif’s visit and “conveyed our concerns”.

“More than China, it was Pakistan we were worried about. Buying jets from them would give Pakistani operatives further access to Sri Lankan armed forces by way of maintenance staff and pilot training. We couldn’t have that,” said an official, who cannot be identified.

But fears about China are palpable as well. “Sri Lanka doesn’t have the money to buy fighter jets. Neither has Pakistan. So who would fund the jets? The credit would have to come from China, wouldn’t?” the Indian official said, refusing to say if India has made a counter-offer yet.
India has been concerned about an increasing Chinese presence in Sri Lanka since two Chinese submarine calls in Colombo last year. The incident was the final straw in India’s relations with former president Mahinda Rajapaksa, whose China tilt had strained his ties with New Delhi. The JF-17 deal was first mooted by the Rajapaksa government.

Colonel R Hariharan, a former Indian military intelligence officer, however, sees wider geopolitical factors at play in Sri Lanka’s JF-17 saga.

“This is an example of the US not allowing China to expand its influence in certain areas where it might not be in conjunction with US global interests, such as the Indian Ocean region. The US last year similarly pressured Turkey to cancel its agreement to buy Chinese missiles,” said Hariharan, now associated with the Chennai Centre for China Studies.

“Indian navy air recce assets have increased with US aircraft. This defence co-operation is growing. So both India and the US have a common interest in keeping out China-Pakistan defence promotion in the Indian Ocean region.”
source- Chinese and Indian fighter jets face off amid regional turf war | South China Morning Post
 
“India is keen to demonstrate the credibility of Tejas and offer it as an alternative to the JF-17
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Buhahaha Tejas alternate to JF17 ...Ok so the strategy of IAF is " we cant fly it so why dont we export it to other nations see if they can fly it may be there is something wrong with our pilots and not with tejas "

hahahahaha

:enjoy::enjoy::enjoy::enjoy::enjoy::enjoy::enjoy:
 
:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

Buhahaha Tejas alternate to JF17 ...Ok so the strategy of IAF is " we cant fly it so why dont we export it to other nations see if they can fly it may be there is something wrong with our pilots and not with tejas "

hahahahaha

:enjoy::enjoy::enjoy::enjoy::enjoy::enjoy::enjoy:
ever heard of f-35 and number of problems and delays it faced like tejas but still got exported to many countries.while the mighty jf-17 havent been able to find a single buyer even after relentless effort by chinese and pak.
it the countries behind aircraft that matters.
and did u forget about "chinese view" in title or it u just wanted to troll
 
ever heard of f-35 and number of problems and delays it faced like tejas but still got exported to many countries.while the mighty jf-17 havent been able to find a single buyer even after relentless effort by chinese and pak.
it the countries behind aircraft that matters.
and did u forget about "chinese view" in title or it u just wanted to troll

it has found one at least, the delivery will begin from 2017 and you just compared the delays in LCA with that of F-35's right?
 
Who produced nuclear sub's, aircraft carrier, helicopters, destroyers, spy sattelites, Desi GPS system, ICBM, SLBMs etc etc etc

there you go, bringing the what not to every discussion. i guess you guys dont know or have forgotten how to stay relevant to a topic.
 
it has found one at least, the delivery will begin from 2017 and you just compared the delays in LCA with that of F-35's right?

Right, if a country like USA have delays is producing something new, so can India.

And abt the one customer for JF17, it was supposed to be Sri Lanka, before your myth got busted. Now your media is comming up with another unidentified buyer who cannot be named.

there you go, bringing the what not to every discussion. i guess you guys dont know or have forgotten how to stay relevant to a topic.

Just see the post I have quoted. I can't help it if stating facts makes your a$$ burn, sorry.
 
there you go, bringing the what not to every discussion. i guess you guys dont know or have forgotten how to stay relevant to a topic.
dude u went offtopic.its about tejas and u started bashing all indian agency.he just pointed out that these agencies are also capable in building high-end equipment.
 
Right, if a country like USA have delays is producing something new, so can India.

And abt the one customer for JF17, it was supposed to be Sri Lanka, before your myth got busted. Now your media is comming up with another unidentified buyer who cannot be named.



Just see the post I have quoted. I can't help it if stating facts makes your a$$ burn, sorry.

* myanmar ;) no start blackmailing them not to buy these or you will block their aid, oh wait, they dont take any aid from you do they?

* did you just compare india to the US??

* the problem with your facts is that they are irrelevant to this thread, and the reality that your LCA is still not operational and lacks the confidence of her primary user.

now go back to the topic
 
:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

Buhahaha Tejas alternate to JF17 ...Ok so the strategy of IAF is " we cant fly it so why dont we export it to other nations see if they can fly it may be there is something wrong with our pilots and not with tejas "

hahahahaha

:enjoy::enjoy::enjoy::enjoy::enjoy::enjoy::enjoy:

Actually Tejas is better, so it's not technically an alternative.

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

Buhahaha Tejas alternate to JF17 ...Ok so the strategy of IAF is " we cant fly it so why dont we export it to other nations see if they can fly it may be there is something wrong with our pilots and not with tejas "

hahahahaha

:enjoy::enjoy::enjoy::enjoy::enjoy::enjoy::enjoy:

Actually Tejas is better, so it's not technically an alternative.
 
* myanmar ;) no start blackmailing them not to buy these or you will block their aid, oh wait, they dont take any aid from you do they?

* did you just compare india to the US??

* the problem with your facts is that they are irrelevant to this thread, and the reality that your LCA is still not operational and lacks the confidence of her primary user.

now go back to the topic

Myanmar, according to whom? Right Pakistani media.
Remember the news reports about the done deal, deal about to be signed, and o LA LA moments regarding Malaysia and Sri Lanka?
And yes, India not only gives economic aid to Myanmar, including 500 million $ given in 2013, but also has big energy deals with them.

I compared two nations trying to achieve something new. For USA, it is F-35, for us its Tejas.

I just quoted your post, that's it. And yes Tejas is not operational, it just received the initial operation clearance a year ago, and recently been inducted. But unlike you, we are not in a hurry , after all Tejas won't be our front line combact jet, so we can give it more time to mature further, which you cannot afford wrt JF-17.
 

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