CHINESE VIEW: Chinese and Indian Fighter Jets Face Off Amid Regional Turf War

[Guynextdoor2]

We have J-10, J-11, J-15, J-16, JH-8, and the new J-20 and J31. What's your excuse.

Too many platforms, shows inefficiencies in military planning

 

[Dazzler]

Myanmar, according to whom? Right Pakistani media.
Remember the news reports about the done deal, deal about to be signed, and o LA LA moments regarding Malaysia and Sri Lanka?
And yes, India not only gives economic aid to Myanmar, including 500 million $ given in 2013, but also has big energy deals with them.

I compared two nations trying to achieve something new. For USA, it is F-35, for us its Tejas.

I just quoted your post, that's it. And yes Tejas is not operational, it just received the initial operation clearance a year ago, and recently been inducted. But unlike you, we are not in a hurry , after all Tejas won't be our front line combact jet, so we can give it more time to mature further, which you cannot afford wrt JF-17.

Tejas will not be operational even after 2020, mark my word for it, judging by the slow and painstaking progress on it. is the quartz radome issue solved yet? what about the landing gear and more weight despite using composites? So many wrongs are taking it off the track.

 

[Pomegranate]

dude u went offtopic.its about tejas and u started bashing all indian agency.he just pointed out that these agencies are also capable in building high-end equipment.

well he is wrong you4 own IAF pointed out that Tejas is a Failure ... you dont need us to tell you about that .... and about the defence capabilities you have most of them thanks to other nation .. you are the biggest arm importer of the world .. you dream in the nights that pakistan and china will attack you and wake up early in the morning make a call to russia and gets more weapons that is your strategy ....

 

[Genesis]

Too many platforms, shows inefficiencies in military planning

Not more than the Americans. Always improve, especially since we started so far back.

 

[Guynextdoor2]

Not more than the Americans. Always improve, especially since we started so far back.

Actually no...the idea behind the JSF is a single platform that can cover most categories for all forces. They're (the USA) more than 30 years ahead in terms of overall planning to you.

 

[Dungeness]

Too many platforms, shows inefficiencies in military planning

Yes, but we have only ONE source, so PLAAF only needs to deal with one supplier that is pretty efficient.

 

[Guynextdoor2]

well he is wrong you4 own IAF pointed out that Tejas is a Failure ... you dont need us to tell you about that .... and about the defence capabilities you have most of them thanks to other nation .. you are the biggest arm importer of the world .. you dream in the nights that pakistan and china will attack you and wake up early in the morning make a call to russia and gets more weapons that is your strategy ....

Explain to me....when has china actually helped you in any attack? All the time only Pak says these things, during 1971, in 15 days China was ready to support Bangladesh. No support on Kargil etc.

 

[Water Car Engineer]

Tejas will not be operational even after 2020, mark my word for it, judging by the slow and painstaking progress on it. is the quartz radome issue solved yet? what about the landing gear and more weight despite using composites? So many wrongs are taking it off the track.

One is operational, 19 more are in production as we speak and being operationalized while it gets FOC.

Quartz radome and refueling probes were recently delivered and are being integrated as we speak. Landing gear issue is over, as the fleet isnt grounded anymore. Pre-FOC models are being made, while FOC is being carried out. Please dont talk about what's going wrong, if you dont even have half the truth.

 

[Guynextdoor2]

Yes, but we have only ONE source, so PLAAF only needs to deal with one supplier that is pretty efficient.

Nope. One thing that destroys efficiency is single source.

 

[Genesis]

Actually no...the idea behind the JSF is a single platform that can cover most categories for all forces. They're (the USA) more than 30 years ahead in terms of overall planning to you.

..........The platforms I named are fourth gen, the Americans have far more fourth generation variations than we do. In terms of fifth generation, we both have two.

They can be 100 years ahead of us in terms of planning, but 2 = 2 any where in the world. But then again, maybe not in your head.

 

[Pomegranate]

Explain to me....when has china actually helped you in any attack? All the time only Pak says these things, during 1971, in 15 days China was ready to support Bangladesh. No support on Kargil etc.

i will suggest you not to read indian books . and doont even think about listening to your media they were thrown out of nepal remember ........... and you might be able to have good discussion here ....

 

[Guynextdoor2]

Tejas will not be operational even after 2020, mark my word for it, judging by the slow and painstaking progress on it. is the quartz radome issue solved yet? what about the landing gear and more weight despite using composites? So many wrongs are taking it off the track.

Quartz Radome was a requirement for AESA incorporated versions. (also think about the fact that AESA, BVR etc. were not required when the program started so '30 years to complete' is a complete misnomer).

i will suggest you not to read indian books . and doont even think about listening to your media they were thrown out of nepal remember ........... and you might be able to have good discussion here ....

I would suggest you don't smoke pot whie reading history. WHat I have quoted are historical facts.

 

[Mirza Jatt]

when exactly is the show scheduled ?

 

[Dungeness]

Nope. One thing that destroys efficiency is single source.

Our balls is in our own hand, your balls is in many foreign hands, and everyone gets to squeeze it if they they want to.

 

[Dazzler]

Quartz Radome was a requirement for AESA incorporated versions. (also think about the fact that AESA, BVR etc. were not required when the program started so '30 years to complete' is a complete misnomer).

is the solved yet? the radar range was severely hampered in the absence of quartz radome i believe.