Chinese Vessel to Be Confiscated

[jhungary]

Guys we should go back at the topic at hand! and for the CHI#Ko Imperialist members here stop with your stupid flame wars its not helping your side at all in fact its just fueling more facts about your country so please all members posting here please return to the business at hand here.

It's actually on topic as we are discussing how US have drawn in the conflict done with the balance of the whole SCS situation.

That's why China don't want to have this make into international conflict, and only regarding them as regional conflict.

 

[USAHawk785]

It's actually on topic as we are discussing how US have drawn in the conflict done with the balance of the whole SCS situation.

That's why China don't want to have this make into international conflict, and only regarding them as regional conflict.

I second this statement. Its now American policy , as per the naval pivot into the region, to maintain hegemony.

Notice how the Chinese Government has tone down their rhetoric after fully accepting the dimensional reality of American military presence in the region is going to be a long-term concern.

In regards to the Philippines, their Senate needs to change their constitution and allow US military presence in the Philippines indefinitely. The Philippines is too much of a strategic value for the United States.

 

[jhungary]

The Chinese do not have the means to project their conventional military force into the United States, we have the ability to neutralize any hostile units of theirs. The 7th Fleet alone could neutralize their navy. Well, to be accurate, the 7th fleet would be assisted by our Japanese partners.

Come on tho, the JSDF's Maritime Wing is practically an extension of the US Navy.

In regards to fighting the Chinese in their soil, we would have to erase their navy first. Once our Airforce eradicates the PLAAF and gains air supremacy, we would begin pulverizing any land targets vis-a-vis a combined naval-air operations.

She would bend at the knee.

If our target is SCS, then we don't need to erase the Chinese navy. It is not a big threat to the US Navy. The prize is air superiority. If Shiite really do hit the fan, you will want to take over that almost immediately after the war start. We need to be able to reach out to the Chinese in their coastal city. Launch sortie on their city and pound both military and civilian structure. Create maximum casualty. Without a function port, their navy have no where to turn but retreat.

Honestly and seriously, a war in SCS with China so close is bad for Chinese business. If you talk about flagging down US in will be a disaster for the Chinese. We are very good at destroying things you know...

 

[Malaya]

Protected frozen anteaters found on Chinese boat near Tubbataha Reef

THE Philippine coast guard says it has found hundreds of frozen scaly anteaters, or pangolins, in the cargo hold of a Chinese boat that ran aground in a protected marine sanctuary last week.

Wildlife officials have been informed of the surprising discovery, which could lead to more charges for the 12 Chinese men arrested on charges including poaching after their boat was stranded in Tubbataha Reef last week.
"We found 400 boxes containing anteaters aboard the vessel, and we are now determining where these came from," coast guard spokesman Lieutenant Commander Armand Balilo told AFP.

He could not say whether the pangolins were frozen alive, or had already been butchered as meat.
A protected species, pangolins are widely hunted in parts of Asia for their meat, skin and scales. In China, they are known as a delicacy and are purported to have medicinal qualities.
Pangolin

Pangolins acan be found in the wild in the western Philippine island of Palawan, near where the Chinese boat had been marooned.


According to the International Union of Conservation of Nature, all eight species of the insect-eating mammals are protected by international laws around the world.

Two - the Malaysian and Chinese pangolins - are in its "red list" of endangered species.

Pangolins are also found roaming in the wild in the western Philippine island of Palawan, the nearest land area to Tubbataha Reef where the Chinese boat had been marooned.

Balilo said the vessel remained stuck in Tubbataha, while the coast guard awaited arrival of a salvage ship to tow it it away.

Prosecutors charged the 12 Chinese fishermen last week with illegal poaching and with corruption for attempting to bribe Filipinos officials, and if convicted they could face long jail terms.

The grounding of the 48-metre boat came amid deep tensions between the Philippines and China over competing territorial claims to the neighbouring South China Sea.

Read more: Protected frozen anteaters found on Chinese boat near Tubbataha Reef | News.com.au




Chinese poachers in Tubbataha could face 20 years

Agence France-Presse
Posted at 04/17/2013

MANILA - Twelve suspected Chinese poachers could face up to 20 years in prison for possession of hundreds of dead pangolins or scaly anteaters, Philippine wildlife authorities said Wednesday.

The boat carrying the 12 Chinese men ran aground on Tubbataha marine park, a UNESCO World Heritage-listed coral reef near Palawan, last week.

"We are preparing a case. We are still compiling supporting documents (but) it carries a heavy penalty of 12 to 20 years imprisonment," Adelina Villena, environment officer of the province of Palawan, told AFP.

Mere possession of the threatened species is basis for criminal charges, regardless of where the pangolins were obtained, said Villena.

All eight species of the insect-eating mammals are protected by international law. Two -- the Malaysian and Chinese pangolins -- are on the International Union of Conservation of Nature's "red list" of endangered species.

Prosecutors have already charged the men with illegal poaching and with corruption for attempting to bribe Filipino officials.

The Philippine coast guard said Monday it had found hundreds of frozen pangolins, individually wrapped in plastic and hidden in sacks in the cargo hold of a Chinese boat.

Pangolins are widely hunted in parts of Asia for their meat, skin and scales and in China they are considered a delicacy and to have medicinal qualities.

The head of the government wildlife bureau, Theresa Mundita Lim said she would visit Palawan this week to conduct tests to determine if the pangolins originated there. The island is the only place in the Philippines where pangolins are found.

"They are very rare and to get that many from Palawan would really impact on the population," she said.

The Philippine office of the World Wide Fund for Nature condemned the poaching of the pangolins after the men were caught, saying that growing demand in China was wiping the animal out in Southeast Asia.

Chinese poachers in Tubbataha could face 20 years | ABS-CBN News

 

[USAHawk785]

If our target is SCS, then we don't need to erase the Chinese navy. It is not a big threat to the US Navy. The prize is air superiority. If Shiite really do hit the fan, you will want to take over that almost immediately after the war start. We need to be able to reach out to the Chinese in their coastal city. Launch sortie on their city and pound both military and civilian structure. Create maximum casualty. Without a function port, their navy have no where to turn but retreat.

Honestly and seriously, a war in SCS with China so close is bad for Chinese business. If you talk about flagging down US in will be a disaster for the Chinese. We are very good at destroying things you know...

Their navy is diminutive by American standards, however, in order to gain complete dominance and protect fleet support, the PLAN should be exterminated; if not all, at least the overwhelming majority of their surface ships and their subs.

I do agree with you, in an air war, we would annihilate the PLAAF, thereby exposing their cities to unchallenged US aerial precision strikes. In order for maximum damage to occur, a combined aerial and naval attack would be needed.

In regards to the hypothetics, the US Pacific Fleet would have to implement a screen force with the Japanese Maritime SDF, where in which our cruisers, destroyers and frigates would eradicate the PLAN's North Sea Fleet , then their South Sea Fleet.

6 carrier battle groups with fleet support would be necessary in the evisceration of the PLAN.

The results would be akin to the 1st and 2nd Sino-Japanese War, the unprecedented defeat of the Chinese Naval Force.

If our target is SCS, then we don't need to erase the Chinese navy. It is not a big threat to the US Navy. The prize is air superiority. If Shiite really do hit the fan, you will want to take over that almost immediately after the war start. We need to be able to reach out to the Chinese in their coastal city. Launch sortie on their city and pound both military and civilian structure. Create maximum casualty. Without a function port, their navy have no where to turn but retreat.

Honestly and seriously, a war in SCS with China so close is bad for Chinese business. If you talk about flagging down US in will be a disaster for the Chinese. We are very good at destroying things you know...

The SCS/WPS is of vital interests, by the way. The natural gas reserves there is unprecedented. Our Philippine friends have a "pot of gold" , he he he.

 

[shuttler]

The last time China acted tough, she got her a$$ smacked, and the European powers pulverized the Qing into submission. Extraterritoriality and Western spheres of influences popping around the coast of China.

The US Navy, assisted by our Japanese partners would send the entire PLAN to the depths of the sea. Man's contribution to new coral reefs.

In my recollection india was spanked badly， the arses of american gis were kicked out of north korea and vietnam by the PLA， vietcongs were spanked in the SCS conflict

Those were done when our forces were a lot less equipped than the enemies

Bring on your 6 cbgs and you can also tell other countries like india for help. More rusty coral reefs for the sharks！

 

[shuttler]

Their navy is diminutive by American standards,

by american standard obesity is a norm

however, in order to gain complete dominance and protect fleet support, the PLAN should be exterminated; if not all, at least the overwhelming majority of their surface ships and their subs.

how? by the largest and easiest formation of 6 cbgs that we can target at?

I do agree with you, in an air war, we would annihilate the PLAAF, thereby exposing their cities to unchallenged US aerial precision strikes. In order for maximum damage to occur, a combined aerial and naval attack would be needed.

several dozen of these will powderise the invading fleets of usaf to dust

In regards to the hypothetics, the US Pacific Fleet would have to implement a screen force with the Japanese Maritime SDF, where in which our cruisers, destroyers and frigates would eradicate the PLAN's North Sea Fleet , then their South Sea Fleet.

then bigger targets for our missiles and bombs - hard to miss

6 carrier battle groups with fleet support would be necessary in the evisceration of the PLAN.

speedy enrichment of corrugated iron coral reefs by the 6 us cbgs! thank you us navy

The results would be akin to the 1st and 2nd Sino-Japanese War, the unprecedented defeat of the Chinese Naval Force.

More like pearl harbour

The SCS/WPS is of vital interests, by the way. The natural gas reserves there is unprecedented. Our Philippine friends have a "pot of gold" , he he he.

of course we are having our plans for keeping n maintaining the resources under wraps. You can bring on the indians and the japanese so as to diversify the texture of the coral reefs!

 

[shuttler]

Protected frozen anteaters found on Chinese boat near Tubbataha Reef

Read more: Protected frozen anteaters found on Chinese boat near Tubbataha Reef | News.com.au

Chinese poachers in Tubbataha could face 20 years | ABS-CBN News

give us the terms and release our men pinoy!

 

[jhungary]

Their navy is diminutive by American standards, however, in order to gain complete dominance and protect fleet support, the PLAN should be exterminated; if not all, at least the overwhelming majority of their surface ships and their subs.

I do agree with you, in an air war, we would annihilate the PLAAF, thereby exposing their cities to unchallenged US aerial precision strikes. In order for maximum damage to occur, a combined aerial and naval attack would be needed.

In regards to the hypothetics, the US Pacific Fleet would have to implement a screen force with the Japanese Maritime SDF, where in which our cruisers, destroyers and frigates would eradicate the PLAN's North Sea Fleet , then their South Sea Fleet.

6 carrier battle groups with fleet support would be necessary in the evisceration of the PLAN.

The results would be akin to the 1st and 2nd Sino-Japanese War, the unprecedented defeat of the Chinese Naval Force.



The SCS/WPS is of vital interests, by the way. The natural gas reserves there is unprecedented. Our Philippine friends have a "pot of gold" , he he he.

Actually, no......

If we spare the PLAN and not "erase" them on the get go, it will draw the Chinese resource to keep the fighting on. Whatever you had when you are at war draw your resource. The Chinese navy do not have capability to strike outside the western pacific. I would say, in a war scenario, we would better leave them alone, but also don't let them go to port, then it will most definitely eat up their resource, either try to repair it or try to resupply it.

This will work a lot better to just sunk them in the on set of the conflict.

 

[shuttler]

How coral reefs are formed from 6 us cbgs：

 

[USAHawk785]

Actually, no......

If we spare the PLAN and not "erase" them on the get go, it will draw the Chinese resource to keep the fighting on. Whatever you had when you are at war draw your resource. The Chinese navy do not have capability to strike outside the western pacific. I would say, in a war scenario, we would better leave them alone, but also don't let them go to port, then it will most definitely eat up their resource, either try to repair it or try to resupply it.

This will work a lot better to just sunk them in the on set of the conflict.

I hear your point, but during the mean time that we 'spare' them, they pose a risk to fleet support. Nay, their entire navy would have to be neutralized. Starting with their 'remodeled' carrier.

 

[Zero_wing]

So you ch#cks shot a metal plate with no CIWS? and your happy? please its not going to work on the US or anyone face it Imperialist if you try to attack anyone with this your guys are just going to end up like your ancestors in the boxer rebellion.

 

[Zero_wing]

True sir but some the things posted here is getting off topic anyway your right the Chinko Imperialist are trying to isolate the weak nations out so they can easily prey on them

 

[Fsjal]

How coral reefs are formed from 6 us cbgs：

Posting more picture will make American Daddy angry

So you ch#cks shot a metal plate with no CIWS? and your happy? please its not going to work on the US or anyone face it Imperialist if you try to attack anyone with this your guys are just going to end up like your ancestors in the boxer rebellion.

Why did you bring up Boxer Rebellion. Remember Philippine-American War?
We got occupied by American Big Daddy

 

[shuttler]

Release of 12 Chinese sought

PUERTO PRINCESA CITY—Let them go. Forgive and forget. This was the gist of what two ranking officials of the Chinese Embassy in Manila on Thursday were asking in trying to secure the immediate release of 12 Chinese fishermen accused of poaching in the Tubbataha Reef in the Sulu Sea.

I hear your point, but during the mean time that we 'spare' them, they pose a risk to fleet support. Nay, their entire navy would have to be neutralized. Starting with their 'remodeled' carrier.

spare us? more like you will be begging for mercy from us to end the war so as to avoid complete annhilation for keeping your lives

Posting more picture will make American Daddy angry

USA is someone's dad. not mine

yeah, let them and the proxies cheerleaders traitors fanboys cr@p their pants