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Chinese steel finds Vietnam a safe heaven amid trade war

Chinese steel producers are planning to distribute their production capacity to other countries.

| 25/07/2018



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A potential full-blown trade war between China and the US has prompted Chinese steel firms to move parts of their manufacturing to other markets, including Vietnam, according to the Nhip Cau Dau Tu magazine.

In Vietnam’s Dong Nai province, after one year of being rejected, Yongjin Metal - a China-based steel firms has resent its application for a project of stainless cold rolled steel with an annual capacity of 300,000 tons.

Apart from this, many other Chinese steel manufacturers have increasingly planned to penetrate Vietnam market.

Meanwhile, Vietnam's steel imports from China keep climbing. The country imported nearly 2.74 million tons of steel worth US$1.49 billion in the first two months of 2018, a 62% increase year-on-year. Of the figure, volume from China accounted for 1.53 million tons worth US$786 million.

Also, the consumption of steel in Vietnam remains high. Increased investment of big auto groups like Toyota, Mitsubishi, Thaco and VinFast also boosts the demand of high-quality steel.

Besides, Chinese steel firms in Vietnam can find motivation from increasing presence of the Chinese construction companies including CSCEC, Tung Feng, most of which have won bids for many key projects in Vietnam during the past time.

Actually, Chinese companies have planned to shift their production to Vietnam for years, Max Brown, Business Intelligence Manager of Dezan Shira in ASEAN said. Yet the threat from trade war pushes them more, he added.

Nevertheless, the shift of Chinese steel can pose new risks to Vietnamese steel firms, who are still protected under the umbrella named “safeguard tariffs” that Vietnam has imposed on steel imports since 2016.

The Vietnam Steel Association (VSA) promptly reacted to the new move of Chinese firms. The association has requested the government not to issue new investment licenses for projects that will worsen overcapacity.

“We consent with the proposal from domestic stainless steel producers that not give license to project of Yongjin Metal to avoid the overcapacity in domestic supply,” the VSA said.

Side effects

Moreover, Vietnam can confront side-effects from China’s effort to sell its steel to other countries under the cover of “Made in Vietnam steel”.

On June 12, some US-based steel producers filed an inquiry into anti-dumping and anti-subsidy measures to the US Department of Commerce (DOC) for corrosion-resistant carbon steel imported from Vietnam due to suspected tax evasion from Taiwan and South Korea and cold-rolled steel imported from Vietnam on suspicion of evasion tax from Korea.

The department will decide whether or not to initiate an investigation within 45 days of receiving the application (scheduled July 27). If DOC decide to impose safeguard duties, Vietnamese steel sector can face a loss of sale adequate for 11% of its total export in 2017.

Hence, some Vietnamese enterprises are supposed to stop importing the hot rolled coil from China to avoid the eyes of DOC.

Vietnam’s steel industry is forecast to grow by 20-22% in 2018, according to the VSA. Of the figure, strongest growth will be seen in the production of hot rolled steel with 154%, followed by welded steel pipe (15%), coloured galvanished steel (12%), construction steel (10%), and cold rolled steel (5%).

http://english.vietnamnet.vn/fms/bu...nds-vietnam-a-safe-heaven-amid-trade-war.html
 
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Steel production is very dirty, polluted (Formosa got heavy fine for polluted ). We just dont wanna take that dirty industry to our country

Dirty industry should remain in CN as CN has lost of barren land and desert that use for Nothing but dumping bargage :coffee:
 
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Steel production is very dirty, polluted (Formosa got heavy fine for polluted ). We just dont wanna take that dirty industry to our country

Dirty industry should remain in CN as CN has lost of barren land and desert that use for Nothing but dumping bargage :coffee:
vn is CN's dump yard. period.
 
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Steel production is very dirty, polluted (Formosa got heavy fine for polluted ). We just dont wanna take that dirty industry to our country

Dirty industry should remain in CN as CN has lost of barren land and desert that use for Nothing but dumping bargage :coffee:
:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:
Your brain are absolutely polluted by Orange agent.
 
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Steel production is very dirty, polluted (Formosa got heavy fine for polluted ). We just dont wanna take that dirty industry to our country

Dirty industry should remain in CN as CN has lost of barren land and desert that use for Nothing but dumping bargage :coffee:

If dirty industries first do not come to you, clean industries will never come.

You have to choose:

To be poor dirty, or

To be industrial dirty.

In both case, you got to be dirty before you have a chance to get clean.

No body will offer you help just because you are cute and cuddly. You got to give something to take something. In this case, it will be your environment and labor force.
 
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If dirty industries first do not come to you, clean industries will never come.

You have to choose:

To be poor dirty, or

To be industrial dirty.

In both case, you got to be dirty before you have a chance to get clean.

No body will offer you help just because you are cute and cuddly. You got to give something to take something. In this case, it will be your environment and labor force.
Oh, really ?? But TPP nations still support VN tobe TPP manufacturing hub, JP promise supporting and transferring clean- high tech indutry to VN while JP keep dumpig dirty industry to CN.:cool:
 
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If dirty industries first do not come to you, clean industries will never come.

You have to choose:

To be poor dirty, or

To be industrial dirty.

In both case, you got to be dirty before you have a chance to get clean.

No body will offer you help just because you are cute and cuddly. You got to give something to take something. In this case, it will be your environment and labor force.

Vietnam is focusing on exporting brides for the bride price. A clean industry.

Oh, really ?? But TPP nations still support VN tobe TPP manufacturing hub, JP promise supporting and transferring clean- high tech indutry to VN while JP keep dumpig dirty industry to CN.:cool:

TPP no longer exist, foo.
 
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Oh, really ?? But TPP nations still support VN tobe TPP manufacturing hub, JP promise supporting and transferring clean- high tech indutry to VN while JP keep dumpig dirty industry to CN.:cool:

You trust Japanese in your own peril. If they feel you have a blind faith, they will take advantage of you. That's the nature of business here, not necessarily because the Japanese are bad.

Taiwan businessmen are not angels, as well (as you may now from Formosa, LOL).

I would advise you to diversify.

Mainland China, with its historical memory, historical sense responsibility and all that will likely be more lenient toward you than the rest.
 
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You trust Japanese in your own peril. If they feel you have a blind faith, they will take advantage of you. That's the nature of business here, not necessarily because the Japanese are bad.

Taiwan businessmen are not angels, as well (as you may now from Formosa, LOL).

I would advise you to diversify.

Mainland China, with its historical memory, historical sense responsibility and all that will likely be more lenient toward you than the rest.
CN is falling, your tariff to US soybean failed as EU agree to buy more to avoid US's anger. US will push CN to chaos like in Sirya in 2023 to make $ billion from selling weapons to CN "rebels" against king XI evil :cool:

btw: we dont need to trust JP. As I said before, SK-JP need VN more than we need them cos VN control their crucial shipping line from Thailand gulf passing through SCS(east VN sea). If VN increase tension wt CN there, then JP-SK shipping line will be blocked, then their economy will be in chaos like CN chaos in 2023

So, SK-JP'd better to transfer high, clean tech to VN as they promise so VN can keep SCS(east VN sea) safe for them :cool:
 
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CN is falling, your tariff to US soybean failed as EU agree to buy more to avoid US's anger.

If it is failing, why the US regime recently announced more than 10 billion USD to support its farmers?

There is no friends in trade war. The US-EU trade war is as real as the US-China trade war.

http://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1112410.shtml

So, SK-JP'd better to transfer high, clean tech to VN as they promise so VN can keep SCS(east VN sea) safe for them

You know CJK trade is about a trillion USD.

How much Vietnam would that much of money buy?

If there is tech transfer, it is between CJK, not between JP-VN. Even if they transfer all the tech to you overnight, you have little capacity to utilize it.

It takes time.

Anyways, CN-VN trade is going strong as seen in huge demand in China steel, which shows construction/infra boom in Vietnam. This is good for both sides.
 
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THURSDAY, 26 JULY, 2018 | 12:10 WIB
China`s Steel Group Pledges to Employ Indonesian Workers

TEMPO.CO, Jakarta - China`s Hebei Bishi Steel Group would go ahead with its plan to establish a steel factory in Patebon Subdistrict, Kendal District, Central Java Province. The group has vowed to prioritize employment of local people, an Indonesian government official said.

The Chinese steel factory will start operating in 2019 or, at the latest, by 2020, Head of Kendal District Mirna Annisa told Antara here on Wednesday, when questioned about the group's investment commitment in the district area.

The total investment for constructing the steel factory, expected to be the biggest of its kind in Asia and with the capacity to absorb 6 thousand to 10 thousand workers, is worth US$2.54 billion, she noted.

Hebei Bishi Steel Group, whose headquarter is located in Tangshan, Hebei Province, would collaborate with its Indonesian partner, PT Seafer Kawasan Industri, which has provided it with 700 hectares of land in Patebon Subdistrict, she stated.

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For the first step, the Chinese company plans to build a steel factory with a production capacity of three million tons and cooking coal of 2.4 million tons. It is supported by a power plant, with a total capacity of 270 Megawatts, and supporting piers, with a capacity of 100 deadweight tons (DWT).

"For the second step, other supporting infrastructures, including a seaport and road, will also be constructed. The total funds invested by this Chinese company reaches around Rp42 trillion (US$1= Rp14,337)," she explained.


Meanwhile, Director of Hebei Industry Group Deng Ji earlier expressed his willingness to make their investment into reality soon in Seafer Kendal industry complex in Kendal, Central Java.

"We have signed the agreement, and we want to make it real soon. Even if it is possible, we would like to invest more in Central Java," he noted.

Deng Ji remarked that Hebei's investment in Central Java is one of the pilot projects of China's "One Belt One Road" initiative in Indonesia.

From his Indonesian counterpart, President Director of PT Seafer Kawasan Industry, Harry W Sudarwo, claimed that he had allocated a 700-hectare land for the investment project.

"The land had been prepared, and the permit is already in our hand," Sudarwo added.

The signing of an agreement between Hebei Bishi Industry and PT Seafer Kawasan Industri took place in Beidahe, Hebei Province, on Monday, and was witnessed by Indonesian Ambassador to China Djauhari Oratmangun, Deputy Governor of Central Java Heru Sudjatmoko, and Annisa.

ANTARA
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America: "I want you to buy American Steel"
Indonesia: "F*ck no. That's gonna kill local producers!"
America: "Fine then LOSER! I'm gonna slap tariffs on all your export goods!"
Indonesia: "%#!*@, that bastard!"

China: "I want you to buy Chinese Steel"
Indonesia: "F*ck no. That's gonna kill local producers!"
China: "sigh... Ok, how about I invest enough money to build a new steel factory in Indonesia, also build all supporting facilities, and employ thousands of Indonesians?"

Indonesia: "..."
Indonesia: "Sign me up!"

@Viva_Viet
all things considered, be glad you have to deal with Chinese imperialism and not the American style. At least the Chinese will give us a job in return for being our boss :p:
 
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If it is failing, why the US regime recently announced more than 10 billion USD to support its farmers?

There is no friends in trade war. The US-EU trade war is as real as the US-China trade war.

http://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1112410.shtml


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US will take back Trillions USD when pushing CN to chaos and selling trillions USD weapon to CN "rebels"
You know CJK trade is about a trillion USD.

How much Vietnam would that much of money buy?

If there is tech transfer, it is between CJK, not between JP-VN. Even if they transfer all the tech to you overnight, you have little capacity to utilize it.

It takes time.

Anyways, CN-VN trade is going strong as seen in huge demand in China steel, which shows construction/infra boom in Vietnam. This is good for both sides
Bad thing for u, Samsung-Mazda agree to transfer more high tech to VN, SK-JP do not think short like u guys coz they know VN can buy high tech blue prints easily from Germany-Spain if SK-JP dont sell :cool:

THURSDAY, 26 JULY, 2018 | 12:10 WIB
China`s Steel Group Pledges to Employ Indonesian Workers

TEMPO.CO, Jakarta - China`s Hebei Bishi Steel Group would go ahead with its plan to establish a steel factory in Patebon Subdistrict, Kendal District, Central Java Province. The group has vowed to prioritize employment of local people, an Indonesian government official said.

The Chinese steel factory will start operating in 2019 or, at the latest, by 2020, Head of Kendal District Mirna Annisa told Antara here on Wednesday, when questioned about the group's investment commitment in the district area.

The total investment for constructing the steel factory, expected to be the biggest of its kind in Asia and with the capacity to absorb 6 thousand to 10 thousand workers, is worth US$2.54 billion, she noted.

Hebei Bishi Steel Group, whose headquarter is located in Tangshan, Hebei Province, would collaborate with its Indonesian partner, PT Seafer Kawasan Industri, which has provided it with 700 hectares of land in Patebon Subdistrict, she stated.

473376_620.jpg

For the first step, the Chinese company plans to build a steel factory with a production capacity of three million tons and cooking coal of 2.4 million tons. It is supported by a power plant, with a total capacity of 270 Megawatts, and supporting piers, with a capacity of 100 deadweight tons (DWT).

"For the second step, other supporting infrastructures, including a seaport and road, will also be constructed. The total funds invested by this Chinese company reaches around Rp42 trillion (US$1= Rp14,337)," she explained.


Meanwhile, Director of Hebei Industry Group Deng Ji earlier expressed his willingness to make their investment into reality soon in Seafer Kendal industry complex in Kendal, Central Java.

"We have signed the agreement, and we want to make it real soon. Even if it is possible, we would like to invest more in Central Java," he noted.

Deng Ji remarked that Hebei's investment in Central Java is one of the pilot projects of China's "One Belt One Road" initiative in Indonesia.

From his Indonesian counterpart, President Director of PT Seafer Kawasan Industry, Harry W Sudarwo, claimed that he had allocated a 700-hectare land for the investment project.

"The land had been prepared, and the permit is already in our hand," Sudarwo added.

The signing of an agreement between Hebei Bishi Industry and PT Seafer Kawasan Industri took place in Beidahe, Hebei Province, on Monday, and was witnessed by Indonesian Ambassador to China Djauhari Oratmangun, Deputy Governor of Central Java Heru Sudjatmoko, and Annisa.

ANTARA
________________________________________________________

America: "I want you to buy American Steel"
Indonesia: "F*ck no. That's gonna kill local producers!"
America: "Fine then LOSER! I'm gonna slap tariffs on all your export goods!"
Indonesia: "%#!*@, that bastard!"

China: "I want you to buy Chinese Steel"
Indonesia: "F*ck no. That's gonna kill local producers!"
China: "sigh... Ok, how about I invest enough money to build a new steel factory in Indonesia, also build all supporting facilities, and employ thousands of Indonesians?"

Indonesia: "..."
Indonesia: "Sign me up!"

@Viva_Viet
all things considered, be glad you have to deal with Chinese imperialism and not the American style. At least the Chinese will give us a job in return for being our boss :p:
We dont care abt ID, u guys r just like alien to VN.
 
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Bad thing for u, Samsung-Mazda agree to transfer more high tech to VN, SK-JP do not think short like u guys coz they know VN can buy high tech blue prints easily from Germany-Spain if SK-JP dont sell

Looks like you are the most favored nation on the book of developed nations.

When that happens, let me know. So far, I have not seen much technological marvels coming from Vietnam's side.

I guess you received too much of high-tech blueprints for free from developed countries, and still trying to immerse them.

Awaiting...

In the meantime:

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-07-26/mercedes-may-move-some-us-production-china
 
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