Chinese stealth fighter jet may use US technology

[ZhengHe]

Dude you're joking right?

well, what do you think?

but since US supports Taiwan independence, why not China support Hawaii or Puerto Rico or Guam independence? it's just that the time is not right yet.

wait until real war is imminent then arm all independent groups in the US and all extremist terrorist militants and every enemy state of the US with missiles and advance fighter/bomber aircrafts.

US mentality is "everything we do is right" so by applying this logic China can do the exact same thing and give weapons to all US enemies.

going off topic now...anyway..............................

 

[Nomenclature]

Aaahhh...So we should first exercise doubt whenever governments are involved.

Did I ever say anything to the contrary?

 

[Bigoren]

China may copy the technology instead of borrowing! They are good at copying things and bad at innovation.

well,at least they are better than what LCA done BTW,thats the typical american cannot accept the fact,just ignore it.

 

[IndianArmy]

well,at least they are better than what LCA done BTW,thats the typical american cannot accept the fact,just ignore it.

Why Do I see LCA Flying here, Midst of J-20???

 

[Bigoren]

this is a dog eat dog world.

when there are people out there who is determined to destroy your country and take over you will do whatever to get the upper-hand.

and this is another BS article from the US.

1st they say China doesn't have the tech to build it

then they say China must have copied the tech from Russia

and then they say China uses US tech.

Obviously these are all attempts to discredit Chinese achievement. I mean, what if China starts selling these? It would become a threat the US arms market.

I hope China sells these to all US enemies who are actually victims of US imperialism.

There's group in Hawaii that want's independence from the US, China should give them the J-20 and some nukes because everyone has a right to fight for their freedom.

yeah, and I think there will be a news report that China hired all american expert to design and make every part of J20 LOL

 

[Major Shaitan Singh]

Listen to Simon Cooper discuss the problem of China stealing sensitive military secrets on the Popular Mechanics

Moo's package was an F110-GE-129 afterburning turbofan engine, built by General Electric to power America's latest F-16 fighter jet to speeds greater than Mach 2 (1500 mph). Over lunch in the Marriott's restaurant, 58-year-old Moo told the arms dealers who had arranged the purchase that he would soon be looking for additional engines--or even an entire F-16. But what the Chinese army wanted most of all was an AGM-129A, the U.S. Air Force's air-launched strategic nuclear-capable cruise missile. The stealth weapon, which flies at 800 miles per hour, can deliver a 150-kiloton W80 warhead to a target 1800 miles away.

According to U.S. deputy undersecretary of defense Richard Lawless, China's sense of urgency stems partly from concern over the future of Taiwan. In testimony before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, Lawless said that China wants "a variety of credible military options to deter moves by Taiwan toward permanent separation or, if required, to compel by force the integration of Taiwan" with the mainland. Since the United States has pledged to defend Taiwan, that means China is seeking the ability to go toe-to-toe against America's best weaponry. Some U.S. officials argue that China's ambitions go beyond Taiwan to encompass the global stage. Rather than trying to address all its military shortcomings at once, Yoshihara says, the Chinese government focused on obtaining "leap ahead" technologies already in use by the United States. Former Chinese leader Jiang Zemin called these technologies "shashoujian," translated variously as "assassin's mace" or "silver bullet." They ranged from advanced communications equipment to long-range missile systems.

Over the following year, ASTI learned that Voros represented Moo, and that Moo in turn was working for the People's Liberation Army. In a Dec. 4, 2004, e-mail, Moo wrote that China did not want its name on any of the contracts. "These cases take a long time," says Mangione. "It can be frustrating. But you have to let the game play." In March 2005, Voros told the undercover agents that Moo had now shifted priorities. His new top goal was to buy an F-16 engine--and, said Voros, Moo had been given "the green light" to make a deal.

Technology espionage can be difficult to prevent. As Lockheed Martin's representative in Taiwan, Moo had successfully passed a "rigorous" vetting procedure dictated by U.S. government rules, according to company spokesman Jeff Adams. Yet, U.S. officials say he may have transferred restricted technology to China before the investigation began.

 

[Bigoren]

Listen to Simon Cooper discuss the problem of China stealing sensitive military secrets on the Popular Mechanics

Moo's package was an F110-GE-129 afterburning turbofan engine, built by General Electric to power America's latest F-16 fighter jet to speeds greater than Mach 2 (1500 mph). Over lunch in the Marriott's restaurant, 58-year-old Moo told the arms dealers who had arranged the purchase that he would soon be looking for additional engines--or even an entire F-16. But what the Chinese army wanted most of all was an AGM-129A, the U.S. Air Force's air-launched strategic nuclear-capable cruise missile. The stealth weapon, which flies at 800 miles per hour, can deliver a 150-kiloton W80 warhead to a target 1800 miles away.

According to U.S. deputy undersecretary of defense Richard Lawless, China's sense of urgency stems partly from concern over the future of Taiwan. In testimony before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, Lawless said that China wants "a variety of credible military options to deter moves by Taiwan toward permanent separation or, if required, to compel by force the integration of Taiwan" with the mainland. Since the United States has pledged to defend Taiwan, that means China is seeking the ability to go toe-to-toe against America's best weaponry. Some U.S. officials argue that China's ambitions go beyond Taiwan to encompass the global stage. Rather than trying to address all its military shortcomings at once, Yoshihara says, the Chinese government focused on obtaining "leap ahead" technologies already in use by the United States. Former Chinese leader Jiang Zemin called these technologies "shashoujian," translated variously as "assassin's mace" or "silver bullet." They ranged from advanced communications equipment to long-range missile systems.

Over the following year, ASTI learned that Voros represented Moo, and that Moo in turn was working for the People's Liberation Army. In a Dec. 4, 2004, e-mail, Moo wrote that China did not want its name on any of the contracts. "These cases take a long time," says Mangione. "It can be frustrating. But you have to let the game play." In March 2005, Voros told the undercover agents that Moo had now shifted priorities. His new top goal was to buy an F-16 engine--and, said Voros, Moo had been given "the green light" to make a deal.

Technology espionage can be difficult to prevent. As Lockheed Martin's representative in Taiwan, Moo had successfully passed a "rigorous" vetting procedure dictated by U.S. government rules, according to company spokesman Jeff Adams. Yet, U.S. officials say he may have transferred restricted technology to China before the investigation began.

NICE "evidence" though,dont you know that is a korean?

 

[no_name]

well, what do you think?

but since US supports Taiwan independence, why not China support Hawaii or Puerto Rico or Guam independence? it's just that the time is not right yet.

wait until real war is imminent then arm all independent groups in the US and all extremist terrorist militants and every enemy state of the US with missiles and advance fighter/bomber aircrafts.

US mentality is "everything we do is right" so by applying this logic China can do the exact same thing and give weapons to all US enemies.

going off topic now...anyway..............................

I just wasn't sure if you were serious. Other things aside, arming 'rebels' in Hawaii with J-20 is probably the fastest way that the US can get it's hands on china's stealth fighter

 

[below_freezing]

I just wasn't sure if you were serious. Other things aside, arming 'rebels' in Hawaii with J-20 is probably the fastest way that the US can get it's hands on china's stealth fighter

correct. Hawaiians don't need such weapons. They only need heavy artillery and anti air missiles to destroy Pearl Harbor, destroy the occupation government and defend themselves against USAF.

 

[CONNAN]

almost every i mean at least 75 % of the Chinese military projects are in production so what the point in saying they copied this they copied that the only thing that matters is the production capability and the Chinese did it at least they got the 5th gen aircraft prototype

 

[bichuraM]

china don't need american technology......but usa need china for low cost electronics.....

 

[CONNAN]

it hurts my nationalistic feelings but i had to admit it

COPY OR NOT AT THE END OF THE DAY CHINA PROVED IT THEY CAN MAKE A 5TH GEN FIGHTER

they got their front line fighters and trainers in production

they got their attack as well as utility choppers in production

they got all the sections of amour in production

almost all sections of naval equipments in production

its time to revise our defense production and manufacturing doctrine
if not we will be left behind

 

[gambit]

correct. Hawaiians don't need such weapons. They only need heavy artillery and anti air missiles to destroy Pearl Harbor, destroy the occupation government and defend themselves against USAF.

I grew up in Hawaii on the island of Oahu. Simply put, you do not know what the hell you are yabbering about regarding the isolationist-quasi-independence movement by the minority few in this state.

 

[boris]

rubbish...if china can build great cities,stage best ever olympics,send a man in space,have great education all on its own ,it can very well build a fifth-gen fighter.

 

[Hafizzz]

are you a moron are something. just because the chinese looked at the night hawk doesn't mean it is a complete copy of the plane. of course they looked at it studied it then moved on and make a better jet. And why is everyone so quick to say that the chinese never looked at and studied the shot down plane in the balkens? look at the U.S. B-2 bomber. is the derived from a German nazi plane made in ww2. U.S. brought the german ones over to the us studied it and from that plane came the B-2.

USA also studied the Russian Jets :

List of Cold War pilot defections - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Soviet pilots also defected and the most famous involved defecting with the most advanced jet fighters at the time, including:

* On October 9, 1948, Piotr Pirogov and Anatoly Barsov defected by flying their Tu-2 bomber from the USSR to Linz, Austria, where they were granted asylum by the American occupational authorities. Barsov later returned to the USSR a year later.
* In 1961, a disappointed Soviet pilot flew his Sukhoi Su-9 interceptor to Abadan, Iran. Only very sketchy details about this incident are known even today, but the plane and the pilot were quickly picked up by officers of the Foreign Technology Division (FTD) of the United States DoD. After being disassembled within 24 hours the Su-9 was transported to the USA, while the pilot followed shortly after.
* On May 7, 1973, Lieutenant Yevgeny Vronsky, flew his Sukhoi Su-7 from East Germany where he was stationed, to West Germany. The aircraft, which was damaged during the landing, was returned.
* On September 6, 1976, Lieutenant Viktor Belenko defected with his Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-25 to Hakodate, Japan. After being inspected by the Foreign Technology Division of the USAF, the Mig-25 was released to Japan who then returned it in pieces to the Soviet Union.
* On May 20, 1989, Captain Alexander Zuyev defected with his Mikoyan MiG-29 to Trabzon, Turkey. In his autobiography Fulcrum: A Top Gun Pilot's Escape from the Soviet Empire (ISBN 0-446-51648) Zuyev reported that the USSR quickly did a deal with the Turkish government upon his defection, and the MiG-29 was returned to the Russians. According to Zuyev himself, the first words he said as he stepped out of the cockpit after his successful defection were, "I will be an American!". He was shot in the escape and was airlifted out of Turkey by a U.S. C-130 that same night, to Ramstein AB. He shared many stories with the crew that are later expounded upon in his book.