Chinese scientists war-game hypersonic strike on US carrier group in South China Sea, US carrier group could be destroyed ‘with certainty’

[FuturePAF]

Carriers are not safe and even becoming sitting ducks in the future high tech wars, be them from China or US.

We can clearly see China has shifted its priority to smaller attack ships especially in recent a couple of years.

Suppose it works, then what. The US will not be deterred. China can’t even ensure MAD yet. The arsenal is too small.

The only hope is to declare an exclusionary zone around Taiwan and fight any force that attacks you first within it. At least at the point you can have some justification to be fighting in China, as the US recognizes one China.

China will have to take some blows to prevent the war from escalating beyond the boundaries it hopes to stay within.

Also, defeating the Taiwanese quickly and decisively, even at the expense of high casualties will decrease any help a foreign intervention or resupply could provide. A lesson from the Ukraine war.

Look at the afghans, took the country in 11 days, even with the U.S. troops there, nothing happened. Then in a couple weeks they finished off the holdouts in panjshir and reunification was a fait accompli. Nothing could be done after that.

China needs a shock and awe strategy for the Taiwanese, because the US won’t be shocked and awed by the Chinese, especially not at the their current capabilities.

 

[Qutb-ud-din-Aibak]

The carriers can be sunk with lesser weapons whereas an hypersonic missile will be an over kill

 

[Reashot Xigwin]

The carriers can be sunk with lesser weapons whereas an hypersonic missile will be an over kill

You only post this because you have no idea how Ridiculously strong US supercarriers are.

Here’s why it Took four Weeks to Scuttle USS America, the Only Supercarrier Ever Sunk - The Aviation Geek Club

Here’s why it Took four Weeks to Scuttle USS America, the Only Super Carrier Ever Sunk. On Apr. 19, 2005, USS America left Philadelphia under tow on its final mission

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The USS America is the only supercarrier ever sunk, either on purpose or in combat. Blake Horner, Mechanical Engineer, explains why on Quora “It took four weeks and they ended up having to scuttle her from on board due to her not sinking. She is not only far larger than WWII battleships, but she is also a lot tougher. While she does not have the heavy armor the battleships of yore had, she does have a double layered hull, meaning weapons have to push through alternating layers of steel and empty pockets to reach her internals.

 

[Qutb-ud-din-Aibak]

You only post this because you have no idea how Ridiculously strong US supercarriers are.

Here’s why it Took four Weeks to Scuttle USS America, the Only Supercarrier Ever Sunk - The Aviation Geek Club

Here’s why it Took four Weeks to Scuttle USS America, the Only Super Carrier Ever Sunk. On Apr. 19, 2005, USS America left Philadelphia under tow on its final mission

theaviationgeekclub.com

Sea drones or mines can do the job.. This is 2023

 

[Reashot Xigwin]

Sea drones or mines can do the job.. This is 2023

Ever heard of screening ships?

 

[Abid123]

You only post this because you have no idea how Ridiculously strong US supercarriers are.

Here’s why it Took four Weeks to Scuttle USS America, the Only Supercarrier Ever Sunk - The Aviation Geek Club

Here’s why it Took four Weeks to Scuttle USS America, the Only Super Carrier Ever Sunk. On Apr. 19, 2005, USS America left Philadelphia under tow on its final mission

theaviationgeekclub.com

And you have no idea that you dont need to sink it. Damaging it will be enough.

 

[Reashot Xigwin]

And you have no idea that you dont need to sink it. Damaging it will be enough.

It still sea worthy after taking in multiple harpoon and air-surface missile.

Also do people forget that Carrier do not sail alone?

The only way you can get a carrier on range for anything is that you managed to take her escorts out first.

And not to mention that US carrier doctrine right now in the pacific is operating thousands of miles away from the shore making the chinese ballistic drill pretty much useless.

 

[beijingwalker]

And not to mention that US carrier doctrine right now in the pacific is operating thousands of miles away from the shore making the chinese ballistic drill pretty much useless.

If they stay thousands of miles away from our shores they will be safe.

 

[Reashot Xigwin]

If they stay thousands of miles away from our shores they will be safe.

Yes the point is to keep the US carrier group safe while still be able to project power in the sea and land.

 

[DF41]

It still sea worthy after taking in multiple harpoon and air-surface missile.

Also do people forget that Carrier do not sail alone?

The only way you can get a carrier on range for anything is that you managed to take her escorts out first.

And not to mention that US carrier doctrine right now in the pacific is operating thousands of miles away from the shore making the chinese ballistic drill pretty much useless.

I HATE TO REPEAT MYSELF
BUT IN THE FORLORN HOPE OF EDUCATING YOU
FUTILE AS THAT WILL BE, AS NONE ARE SO LOST AS THOSE UNEDUCATABLE
BUT I DO TILT AT WINDMILLS

Yes you can but we are not China, we are not saying we will sink your CBG. Follow the conversation.

EVEN I NEVER SAID CHINA WILL SINK THE CBGs

WHO THE FCCK CARE ABOUT SINKING CBGs

WHEN THE SHIPS AND CARRIERS ARE BURNING FROM END TO END,
FROM THE FUEL ON BOARD AND ORDNANCE ON BOARD , AND THE PAINT
AND THE FLESH AND FAT AND OIL OF MURICAN MEN AND WOMEN

THEY ALL CAN REMAIN AFLOAT FOREVER TO GIVE SOLACE TO MURICA AND THEIR RUNNING DOGGIES AND BROWN NOSERS THAT NONE OF THEM SUNK AT ALL

Any time USA want to tango, China will tango with USA

A hit from Chinese AShCM will be sufficient for it to be over for any USA carrier.

CHINESE AShCM CARRY EVEN MORE BANG AND HELLFIRE THAN THAT RUSSIAN P-800.
AND EXPECT AT LEAST 100 MISSILES BE HITTING THAT CARRIER, AND AT LEAST 10 TO EACH OF THE BURKES AND TICOS

https://twitter.com/x/status/1081840647965822977

Estimated China got 3000++ of AShCMs

But it is more likely Chinese be firing 100 such missiles at single USA carrier.

But it is more likely Chinese be firing 100 such missiles at single USA carrier.

But it is more likely Chinese be firing 100 such missiles at single USA carrier.

No shit about bulkheads and spaces to contain the hellfire that will likely engulf the entire carrier.
WHEN ENTIRE SHIP CANNOT CONTAIN THE HELLFIRE, DONT TALK CRAP THAT BULKHEADS AND SPACES CAN CONTAIN THAT KIND OF HELLFIRE


And not just the warhead, there will be 2–3 tons of missiles coming behind the warhead at Mach 3 tearing into the bulkheads and ordnance and aviation fuel and the poor men and women in the carrier. Those 2–3 tons of missile body will be tearing in the bulkheads faster and more deadly then APFSDS. Andf carrying its own unburned fuel to add to the fun.
Even steel will burn when hit with hell fire and tons of steel and debris coming in at Mach 3. The aviation fuel, and paint on walls, the bombs and ordnance will all cook off and add to the huge huge fire inside the carrier. Regardless if carrier under Condition Zebra or Donkey or Jackass.
The brave sailors in those carriers will not care or worry and be happy that their carrier not sinking. And only burning and burning from one end to the other end.

Chinese have about 3,000 of these kind of AShCMs.

In the form of Mach 3–4 YJ-12s carrying 400–500 semi shaped charge warheads, fired outside the AEGIS cover. The YJ-12 can also do evasive maneuvers to avoid anti-missile threats.

YJ-12 - Wikipedia

There is also the YJ-18 with reach exceeding Aegis cover. YJ-18 will start off at sub Mach 1. Until about 20 km from target , it will sprint at Mach 3–4 to deliver good news to the carrier .

China's YJ-18 Supersonic Anti-Ship Cruise Missile: America's Nightmare?

This Chinese description relates that the missile’s great strength is its “亚超结合的独特动力” [subsonic and supersonic combined unique propulsion]. Another term applied to this design is “双速制反舰导弹” [dual speed control ASCM]. As explained in the article, it is projected that YJ-18 would have an initial subsonic phase estimated at .8 Mach similar to the Klub of about 180km, but 20km from the target would unleash the supersonic sprint vehicle at speed of Mach 2.5 to 3. The “dual speed” function allows the system to realize certain advantages of subsonic cruise missiles, such as their “relatively long range, light weight and universality …” but also takes the chief advantage of supersonic ASCMs as well, namely the ability to “大幅压缩敌方的反应时间” [radically compress the enemy’s reaction time].

The Chinese article relates another advantage of the “dual speed” approach. Just as the missile comes into contact with the ship’s defenses, it “sheds the medium stage …,” thus simultaneously and dramatically altering both its speed and also its radar reflection, “which would impact the fire control calculation.” The likelihood that YJ-18 improves upon the Klub missile’s “digitization, automation, as well as providing more intelligent flight control and navigation technology” is attributed in the Chinese article to a recent Jane’s report.

 

[Reashot Xigwin]

I HATE TO REPEAT MYSELF
BUT IN THE FORLORN HOPE OF EDUCATING YOU
FUTILE AS THAT WILL BE, AS NONE ARE SO LOST AS THOSE UNEDUCATABLE
BUT I DO TILT AT WINDMILLS

EVEN I NEVER SAID CHINA WILL SINK THE CBGs

WHO THE FCCK CARE ABOUT SINKING CBGs

WHEN THE SHIPS AND CARRIERS ARE BURNING FROM END TO END,
FROM THE FUEL ON BOARD AND ORDNANCE ON BOARD , AND THE PAINT
AND THE FLESH AND FAT AND OIL OF MURICAN MEN AND WOMEN

THEY ALL CAN REMAIN AFLOAT FOREVER TO GIVE SOLACE TO MURICA AND THEIR RUNNING DOGGIES AND BROWN NOSERS THAT NONE OF THEM SUNK AT ALL

Any time USA want to tango, China will tango with USA

A hit from Chinese AShCM will be sufficient for it to be over for any USA carrier.

CHINESE AShCM CARRY EVEN MORE BANG AND HELLFIRE THAN THAT RUSSIAN P-800.
AND EXPECT AT LEAST 100 MISSILES BE HITTING THAT CARRIER, AND AT LEAST 10 TO EACH OF THE BURKES AND TICOS

https://twitter.com/x/status/1081840647965822977

Estimated China got 3000++ of AShCMs

But it is more likely Chinese be firing 100 such missiles at single USA carrier.

But it is more likely Chinese be firing 100 such missiles at single USA carrier.

But it is more likely Chinese be firing 100 such missiles at single USA carrier.

No shit about bulkheads and spaces to contain the hellfire that will likely engulf the entire carrier.
WHEN ENTIRE SHIP CANNOT CONTAIN THE HELLFIRE, DONT TALK CRAP THAT BULKHEADS AND SPACES CAN CONTAIN THAT KIND OF HELLFIRE


And not just the warhead, there will be 2–3 tons of missiles coming behind the warhead at Mach 3 tearing into the bulkheads and ordnance and aviation fuel and the poor men and women in the carrier. Those 2–3 tons of missile body will be tearing in the bulkheads faster and more deadly then APFSDS. Andf carrying its own unburned fuel to add to the fun.
Even steel will burn when hit with hell fire and tons of steel and debris coming in at Mach 3. The aviation fuel, and paint on walls, the bombs and ordnance will all cook off and add to the huge huge fire inside the carrier. Regardless if carrier under Condition Zebra or Donkey or Jackass.
The brave sailors in those carriers will not care or worry and be happy that their carrier not sinking. And only burning and burning from one end to the other end.

Chinese have about 3,000 of these kind of AShCMs.

In the form of Mach 3–4 YJ-12s carrying 400–500 semi shaped charge warheads, fired outside the AEGIS cover. The YJ-12 can also do evasive maneuvers to avoid anti-missile threats.

YJ-12 - Wikipedia

There is also the YJ-18 with reach exceeding Aegis cover. YJ-18 will start off at sub Mach 1. Until about 20 km from target , it will sprint at Mach 3–4 to deliver good news to the carrier .

China's YJ-18 Supersonic Anti-Ship Cruise Missile: America's Nightmare?

This Chinese description relates that the missile’s great strength is its “亚超结合的独特动力” [subsonic and supersonic combined unique propulsion]. Another term applied to this design is “双速制反舰导弹” [dual speed control ASCM]. As explained in the article, it is projected that YJ-18 would have an initial subsonic phase estimated at .8 Mach similar to the Klub of about 180km, but 20km from the target would unleash the supersonic sprint vehicle at speed of Mach 2.5 to 3. The “dual speed” function allows the system to realize certain advantages of subsonic cruise missiles, such as their “relatively long range, light weight and universality …” but also takes the chief advantage of supersonic ASCMs as well, namely the ability to “大幅压缩敌方的反应时间” [radically compress the enemy’s reaction time].

The Chinese article relates another advantage of the “dual speed” approach. Just as the missile comes into contact with the ship’s defenses, it “sheds the medium stage …,” thus simultaneously and dramatically altering both its speed and also its radar reflection, “which would impact the fire control calculation.” The likelihood that YJ-18 improves upon the Klub missile’s “digitization, automation, as well as providing more intelligent flight control and navigation technology” is attributed in the Chinese article to a recent Jane’s report.

Laugh in Aegis System

Report to U.S. Congress on Navy Aegis Ballistic Missile Defense (BMD) Program - Naval Post- Naval News and Information

The updated Congressional Research Service report for “Navy Aegis Ballistic Missile Defense (BMD) Program: Background and Issues for Congress” was published on Aug 23, 2021.

navalpost.com

 

[James David]

but.. but.. but we have 5k nukes. We can make China a smoking hole in the ground anytime we want... Oh well..

 

[dbc]

but.. but.. but we have 5k nukes. We can make China a smoking hole in the ground anytime we want... Oh well..

he doesn't care he's not in China, unless he's leaping over the great firewall of China to get here.

 

[LeGenD]

Russian attempts to destroy Patriot systems in Ukraine (just two batteries) have not succeeded even though Russians have thrown everything at them by now.

American Carrier Battle Groups (CBG) have excellent defenses as well.

 

[DF41]

Russian attempts to destroy Patriot systems in Ukraine (just two batteries) have not succeeded even though Russians have thrown everything at them by now.

American Carrier Battle Groups (CBG) have excellent defenses as well.

Then Murica go and tango and kick sand in the face of China.

Piece of cake to whack and walk all over China

GO ON AND DO THAT
LIKE DUGOUT DOUG PROMISING TROOPS BE HOME FOR CHRISTMAS AS THEY APPROACH THE YALU RIVER