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Chinese Premier Wen Jiabao's Visit to India

Once China moves into high-value manufacturing (a process that has already been going on for a while), other countries will take up the slack, Vietnam etc.

Even better, we move the low-value manufacturing into the inner provinces of China, while the coastal areas take care of high-value manufacturing and services/finance. That's the eventual game plan.

I don't think that India currently has the "infrastructure" to become a big manufacturing base in the way that China currently is, at least not in the near future.

Oh. You guys will never move to high-value manufacturing. I think moder chinese language confuses invention with reverse engineering. Others will soon find solutions to chinese copy cats. The few things you have successfully reverse engineered has done the damage, I am expecting some counter measures.
 
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Is that the original report? It's a broken link.

Anyway, here's more along the same lines -

Bajaj Pulsar -

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Chinese copy, "Gulsar", which was banned -

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Chinese copy of Bajaj Pulsar banned

No one denies these copies,there was also a document regarding Indian items sold in Pakistan and some turned out to be Chinese copy.

But what does this have to do with my reply?
 
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Oh. You guys will never move to high-value manufacturing. I think moder chinese language confuses invention with reverse engineering. Others will soon find solutions to chinese copy cats. The few things you have successfully reverse engineered has done the damage, I am expecting some counter measures.

You do know that high-end devices like the Iphones are manufactured in China already? (By Foxconn).

It has already happened and will continue to happen.

India on the other hand doesn't have the infrastructure to turn into a "manufacturing base" for even low-value manufacturing.
 
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No one denies these copies,there was also a document regarding Indian items sold in Pakistan and some turned out to be Chinese copy.

But what does this have to do with my reply?

That was not the original OECD report, by the way. The pics were in continuation of a previous point, not a response to you.
 
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Oh. You guys will never move to high-value manufacturing. I think moder chinese language confuses invention with reverse engineering. Others will soon find solutions to chinese copy cats. The few things you have successfully reverse engineered has done the damage, I am expecting some counter measures.

I completely agree. This is why India will pull ahead of China in the end.
 
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So everything was rosy peachy until 1998 (first test date)? Your theory is anachronistic.

Pakistan and weapons of mass destruction - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Pakistan did not make their weapons in 1998..Chinese assistance was in full flow since the late 70's - early 80's. The design AQ Khan tried to peddle to Libya and which was turned over to the US blew it all open. India gave the Tibetan separatists a home while China gave Pakistan nuclear weapons behind which they sit and let their proxies run rampant in India without fear of retaliation.So it is not like China has been playing it great while India has been playing dirty..everyone plays dirty.

BTW I do not want to post in this disgusting thread anymore so if you want to reply please PM me..we will continue it there.
 
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Nothing meaningful came out of talks other than warm hand shakes and Photos.
China does not want to revert its position on our Border, and India considers Tibet disputed.
Taiwan is already a free country...Cheers

We will wait when better sense prevails on the Chinese Govt.
 
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Nothing meaningful came out of talks other than warm hand shakes and Photos.
China does not want to revert its position on our Border, and India considers Tibet disputed.
Taiwan is already a free country...Cheers

We will wait when better sense prevails on the Chinese Govt.

New Delhi is also a disputed area.
 
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which one is it?

Neither.

a higher share of Indian labour costs goes to benefits(36%) unlike for China which is 26%

India's benefit structure includes contributions to the Provident fund (social security), survivor insurance, pension contributions, state-mandated 13th month pay, and double pay for overtime.

All in all there isn't significant difference between the hourly wages:

$1.71 for India and $1.82 for China.

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Trade target set at $100b - People's Daily Online December 17, 2010

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Chinese Premier Wen Jiabao and Indian President Pratibha Patil both called for enhanced cooperation between the two countries in New Dehli on Thursday.

China and India vowed on Thursday to raise bilateral trade to $100 billion by 2015, from $60 billion in 2010, and called for a stronger partnership between Asia's two giants.

"I believe with our joint efforts ... we'll be able to raise our friendship and cooperation to a high level in the new century," said Premier Wen Jiabao, standing alongside Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh at the Indian presidential palace after a red-carpet welcome ceremony.

In response to Wen's remarks, before they started their formal meeting, Singh said a strong partnership between India and China "will contribute to long-term peace, stability, prosperity and development in Asia and the world".

A joint communiqu issued after the talks between Wen and Singh said the two nations will formalize regular visits between heads of state and government, open a telephone hotline between the two premiers and their foreign ministers will meet once a year.

The two sides agreed to initiate a strategic economic dialogue to enhance macro-economic policy coordination.

The two leaders also set the ambitious goal of bilateral trade reaching $100 billion in 2015, and announced the year 2012 as "Year of China-India Exchanges".

China is India's largest trade partner and the trade has been heavily in China's favor.

Two-way trade is expected to reach $60 billion in 2010 compared with a target of $40 billion, which represents a 30-fold increase since 2000.

Wen pledged to address the trade deficit, which has risen from $1 billion in 2001-2002 to $16 billion in 2007-2008.

"The two sides agreed to take measures to promote greater Indian exports to China with a view to reducing India's trade deficit," the joint statement said.

Singh and Wen also agreed to push forward with efforts to peacefully resolve their nations' lingering border disputes.

Wen said both sides must be patient and sincere and try to maintain peace along the border and seek a fair and reasonable solution to the issue.

The two nations share some 2,000 kilometers of border that has never been formally settled.

Progress was also made on the political front.

"China understands and supports India's wish for a bigger role in the United Nations including the UN Security Council," Wen said when addressing Indian academic lites at the Indian Council of World Affairs, a leading think tank.

"As a large country with more than 1 billion people and developing fast, India should be, and is capable of, playing a more and more important role in international affairs," Wen said.

The premier also addressed many of India's concerns.

On cross-border rivers that India has long claimed China is damming, Wen said "any exploitation in the upper stream will go through scientific planning and studies" and interests of the lower-reach nations will be taken fully into account. Earlier in the day, the two nations' ministries of water resources signed a memorandum for China to provide data to India.

Wen also said Beijing would like to strengthen consultation with India on political and military affairs to beef up mutual trust.

Wen said that India and China were not rivals and there was room in the world for both powers to develop. "China will forever hold positive views on the development of a stronger India... We're friends and will never be rivals," he said.

A series of agreements were signed on finance, green technology, and media exchanges.

Singh accepted Wen's invitation to visit China next year.

B.R. Deepak, a professor at the Center of Chinese and Southeast Asian Studies at Jawaharlal Nehru University, said Wen's remarks sent a positive message.

"It is encouraging to hear China is willing to allow the Indian service sector, pharmaceutical and agricultural products to enter the Chinese market. It will help bring down India's trade deficit," Deepak said.

"Establishing a strategic and economic dialogue mechanism with India means both sides regard each other as a very important partner," said Fu Xiaoqiang, a scholar in South Asia studies at the China Institutes of Contemporary International Relations.

It could help smooth economic friction, but the significance lies more in filling the trust deficit and enabling India and China to work more closely on international affairs, Fu added.

Wen's visit, the first of a Chinese premier in five years, has dominated headlines. On Thursday Indian TV ran extensive footage of Wen shaking hands with Singh, while many papers published special editions to mark the visit.

The Hindustan Times newspaper covered almost every detail of Wen's trip.

"Wen Jiabao's trip to India... lacks the hype and glamour that accompanied the recent visits by US President Barack Obama and his French counterpart Nicolas Sarkozy. But ... it can potentially deliver far higher strategic and economic dividends," the paper said.

Wen will leave India on Friday for a two-day state visit to Pakistan.

Ai Yang, Reuters contributed to this story.

Source:China Daily
 
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