Chinese Navy (PLAN) News & Discussions

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HPS launches a new twin-hull(partially hidden behind the Type 056 FFG)

 

[mike2000 is back]

5 billions is BS coming from Russian medias and some weird medias ,just like once they claimed that it would cost us something like 8-10 billions. LOL.
Just like they claimed we would loose many deals,nobody will trust us bla bla bla... our exports are hiting a record (€8 billions in 2014,and more in 2015),so France has lost its credibility,but continues to sell its stuff. They are feeling stupid at the moment i guess.

I want to quote @ptldM3 posts dated from Dec 5 2014.



ROFL.
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You think Russia will buy Chinese ships ? Only in your wet dreams. They'd prefer build their own,even if it will take decades (just like they are building the Ivan Gren since..... 2004) rather than buying chinese ships.
Wanna bet ?

Well, most Chinese members here seem to be naive /disillusional in thinking Russia Will buy any warships from them LMAO, they don't know the pride Russians have to buy warships from a country they consider to be more advanced than(who has been their junior partner for over a century.). Especially militarily Russia doesn't really think it needs anything at all from the Chinese, on the contrary, it's still the opposite for now.

 

[UKBengali]

Well, most Chinese members here seem to be naive /disillusional in thinking Russia Will buy any warships from them LMAO, they don't know the pride Russians have to buy warships from a country they consider to be more advanced than(who has been their junior partner for over a century.). Especially militarily Russia doesn't really think it needs anything at all from the Chinese, on the contrary, it's still the opposite for now.

It is only a matter how of time before Russia accepts that China has superior military technology in many areas.

I think 2025 will be a good target date.

 

[mike2000 is back]

any bet on China placed by stereotyped and ignorant westerners are always in favor on Chinese side```

btw, to your ignorance, Russians are already buying millions worth of parts and equipment from China for their industry now

Of course, they do, in fact everybody does. even the mighty U. s does, since it's far cheaper, economically viable to import from China, so what's your point bro?
Small parts, is different from entire sophisticated weapon systems altogether . So there is no comparison at all between the two. Since the latter is more high end /expensive than low cost weapons spare parts .

 

[PRC2025]

Well, most Chinese members here seem to be naive /disillusional in thinking Russia Will buy any warships from them LMAO, they don't know the pride Russians have to buy warships from a country they consider to be more advanced than(who has been their junior partner for over a century.). Especially militarily Russia doesn't really think it needs anything at all from the Chinese, on the contrary, it's still the opposite for now.

Just back here to troll ?

I for one, couldn't care less if Russia buys ships from China or now. China need ships for themselves. I'll leave so-called "superior" Russia to export their "best" weapons to others, while their own forces were rotting away until recently.

Reminds me a bit about Ukraine. Exporting some good stuff, but barely had any functional forces. It's how Russia has been most of the time since the 1990s, up until 2009 or 2010.

Don't even let me start with the UK. Was it 86.000 scary soldiers you have now? How many Challenger MBTs, still stuck around 400 of them? That's like sooooooo "much".

Guess that's what happens when you have 1/6 of the Chinese economy and 1/3 of Chinese defence budget.

Why don't you try to take back Hong Kong with your six "superior" Type-45 "destroyers" ? We'll see how many of those six would survive first 48 hours. That would be like totally fun!

But I guess Cameron isn't all that eager like you are?

So once again, I have nothing against Russian "pride", or your stupid UK pride.

Russia needs to sort out building a corvette or a frigate (Gorskhov) in some meaningful numbers, before they or your dear, rainy UK island start talking about any kind of superiority.

Russia to Close Stealth Corvette Project Over Lack of Foreign Components / Sputnik International

China on the other hand is buildning 052D destroyers and is about to start buildning 055A destroyer. So most Chinese couldn't care less that there hasn't come any "export orders" or even export orders on frigates. There are no "export orders" for Arleigh Burke either. The U.S. has them for themselves. There are no export orders on B-2, B-1 bomber, F-22 fighter or Virginia-class SSN either.

So measuring things in "export" is the most stupid thing ever. The so-called export is based first and foremost on the need of domestic forces and needs, before a country finds capacity to export to other countries.

So I am glad that no one has ordered destroyers or frigates from China, as China needs these for themselves, and shouldn't use too much building capacity for other countries, if it allocates resources away from domestic orders.

 

[english_man]

Just back here to troll ?

I for one, couldn't care less if Russia buys ships from China or now. China need ships for themselves. I'll leave so-called "superior" Russia to export their "best" weapons to others, while their own forces were rotting away until recently.

Reminds me a bit about Ukraine. Exporting some good stuff, but barely had any functional forces. It's how Russia has been most of the time since the 1990s, up until 2009 or 2010.

Don't even let me start with the UK. Was it 86.000 scary soldiers you have now? How many Challenger MBTs, still stuck around 400 of them? That's like sooooooo "much".

Guess that's what happens when you have 1/6 of the Chinese economy and 1/3 of Chinese defence budget.

Why don't you try to take back Hong Kong with your six "superior" Type-45 "destroyers" ? We'll see how many of those six would survive first 48 hours. That would be like totally fun!

But I guess Cameron isn't all that eager like you are?

So once again, I have nothing against Russian "pride", or your stupid UK pride.

Russia needs to sort out building a corvette or a frigate (Gorskhov) in some meaningful numbers, before they or your dear, rainy UK island start talking about any kind of superiority.

Russia to Close Stealth Corvette Project Over Lack of Foreign Components / Sputnik International

China on the other hand is buildning 052D destroyers and is about to start buildning 055A destroyer. So most Chinese couldn't care less that there hasn't come any "export orders" or even export orders on frigates. There are no "export orders" for Arleigh Burke either. The U.S. has them for themselves. There are no export orders on B-2, B-1 bomber, F-22 fighter or Virginia-class SSN either.

So measuring things in "export" is the most stupid thing ever. The so-called export is based first and foremost on the need of domestic forces and needs, before a country finds capacity to export to other countries.

So I am glad that no one has ordered destroyers or frigates from China, as China needs these for themselves, and shouldn't use too much building capacity for other countries, if it allocates resources away from domestic orders.

Please find some other forum for your trolling!

 

[PRC2025]

Please find some other forum for your trolling!

I don't troll. Look at my newer, previous posts. Your so-called "countryman" is the one babling about superiority, and doesn't know c-r-a-p about anything, and measures everything in "exports".

Seriously, you should rather talk to him about his stupid, Imperial UK mentality, instead of spraying Imperial manure around here!

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

Just back here to troll ?

I for one, couldn't care less if Russia buys ships from China or now. China need ships for themselves. I'll leave so-called "superior" Russia to export their "best" weapons to others, while their own forces were rotting away until recently.

Reminds me a bit about Ukraine. Exporting some good stuff, but barely had any functional forces. It's how Russia has been most of the time since the 1990s, up until 2009 or 2010.

Don't even let me start with the UK. Was it 86.000 scary soldiers you have now? How many Challenger MBTs, still stuck around 400 of them? That's like sooooooo "much".

Guess that's what happens when you have 1/6 of the Chinese economy and 1/3 of Chinese defence budget.

Why don't you try to take back Hong Kong with your six "superior" Type-45 "destroyers" ? We'll see how many of those six would survive first 48 hours. That would be like totally fun!

But I guess Cameron isn't all that eager like you are?

So once again, I have nothing against Russian "pride", or your stupid UK pride.

Russia needs to sort out building a corvette or a frigate (Gorskhov) in some meaningful numbers, before they or your dear, rainy UK island start talking about any kind of superiority.

Russia to Close Stealth Corvette Project Over Lack of Foreign Components / Sputnik International

China on the other hand is buildning 052D destroyers and is about to start buildning 055A destroyer. So most Chinese couldn't care less that there hasn't come any "export orders" or even export orders on frigates. There are no "export orders" for Arleigh Burke either. The U.S. has them for themselves. There are no export orders on B-2, B-1 bomber, F-22 fighter or Virginia-class SSN either.

So measuring things in "export" is the most stupid thing ever. The so-called export is based first and foremost on the need of domestic forces and needs, before a country finds capacity to export to other countries.

So I am glad that no one has ordered destroyers or frigates from China, as China needs these for themselves, and shouldn't use too much building capacity for other countries, if it allocates resources away from domestic orders.

According to the recent leaked information by the whistleblower, UK's Vanguard class are not functional to launch the Trident II missiles, hence maybe this is the main reason they need to join the AIIB.

China has the opportunity to provide the jobs for everyone.

 

[mike2000 is back]

Please find some other forum for your trolling!

I don't even understand what he is going on about to be honest. Lool he didn't address any of the point i made other than ranting about the UK (which is totally off topic) and talking about 'exports '. Lool

All what i said are mere facts, Russia won't import any warship from China anytime soon. The ramifications for such a deal are too big for Moscow.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

I don't even understand what he is going on about to be honest. Lool he didn't address any of the point i made other than ranting about the UK (which is totally off topic) and talking about 'exports '. Lool

All what i said are mere facts, Russia won't import any warship from China anytime soon. The ramifications for such a deal are too big for Moscow.

I think he wants to address that China doesn't really care if Russia wanna import the warships from us or not.

Since we need to fulfill our own need first.

 

[english_man]

I think he wants to address that China doesn't really care if Russia wanna import the warships from us or not.

Since we need to fulfill our own need first.

I would be very surprised if China ever built a warship for Russia!

I mean, it would be a huge pill for the Russians to swallow, particularly now as they have been seriously burnt by the French, with the non-delivery of the 'Mistral' class, due to US pressure!

As you said Chinese shipyards are very busy building ships for their countries Navy (and that's why i come to this forum, to see the exciting developments going on in the Chinese military), and they seem only prepared to build say small warships for export to other friendly nations.

Regarding the AIIB bank...................i thought it was a really good idea that the UK is now looking to China for future investments, and we have somehow started the ball running, as other European nations have followed suit!...........much to the annoyance of the American goverment!

btw: the Chinese and British people are friends.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

I would be very surprised if China ever built a warship for Russia!

I mean, it would be a huge pill for the Russians to swallow, particularly now as they have been seriously burnt by the French, with the non-delivery of the 'Mistral' class, due to US pressure!

As you said Chinese shipyards are very busy building ships for their countries Navy (and that's why i come to this forum, to see the exciting developments going on in the Chinese military), and they seem only prepared to build say small warships for export to other friendly nations.

Regarding the AIIB bank...................i thought it was a really good idea that the UK is now looking to China for future investments, and we have somehow started the ball running, as other European nations have followed suit!...........much to the annoyance of the American goverment!

btw: the Chinese and British people are friends.

Because Russia currently has the limited budget, and they are only focusing on the nukes and boomers, that's why their surface vessels are lagging behind.

As i said, we are not begging Russia to buy our warships, but our door is also opened for them whenever they want to buy from us.

 

[monitor]

Chinese PLA navy MLP(Mobile Landing Platform) semi-submersible vessel



Mobile landing platform can be used for hovercraft operations during amphibious assaults.

Read Taiwan operations

 

[cnleio]

Can 2 zubr fits in?

Sure, easily can carry 2x Zubr.

 

[Beast]

Chinese PLA navy MLP(Mobile Landing Platform) semi-submersible vessel



Mobile landing platform can be used for hovercraft operations during amphibious assaults.

Read Taiwan operations

China will become a powerhouse in amphibious operation.