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Chinese intrusion in Galwan lasted for two weeks before it was cleared by Indian troops

Why post a pic ? Why not a video ? Images can be easily doctored. PRetty sure the Chinese have cell phones with video recording.

Also, in the case of Indian beating, the entire Chinese convoy was standing and watching the Chinese and the humvee getting attacked and thrashed. That's cowardice. This pic, even if true, doesn't show any other Indians around.



I have to agree here.

Satellite images from almost all sources are showing that there were minor incursions which have already been cleared. Even neutral sources have shown those images. But the government must come clean about what exactly is happening there now and what the ongoing negotiations are about.

Exactly.... our troops got hold of their soldier in front of whole Chinese convoy and even damaging their humvee in front of them and all shown on video....

From Chinese side nothing but a make up to save face....
 
Why post a pic ? Why not a video ? Images can be easily doctored. PRetty sure the Chinese have cell phones with video recording.

Also, in the case of Indian beating, the entire Chinese convoy was standing and watching the Chinese and the humvee getting attacked and thrashed. That's cowardice. This pic, even if true, doesn't show any other Indians around.



I have to agree here.

Satellite images from almost all sources are showing that there were minor incursions which have already been cleared. Even neutral sources have shown those images. But the government must come clean about what exactly is happening there now and what the ongoing negotiations are about.

Why Indians not release show the full video? Are you too embarrassed for the world to see the end. As for the picture not doctored. Hong Kong's newspaper reported it https://www.scmp.com/news/china/mil...comes-battle-spin-indian-and-chinese-soldiers
 
Why Indians not release show the full video? Are you too embarrassed for the world to see the end. As for the picture not doctored. Hong Kong's newspaper reported it https://www.scmp.com/news/china/mil...comes-battle-spin-indian-and-chinese-soldiers

At least we posted a video and it was quite long. At some point the recorder was going to cut off lol. They can't keep recording till eternity.

What you posted was a pic and some Chinese news site reporting the pic doesn't make it authentic.
 
Again, reporting of a picture in media doesn't make it authentic. Same question, why not a video.
What do you mean is picture not authentic? There is a thread about the picture for Indians to debunk. Remember it was the Indian side leaked first then the China responded back. If you want to see a video then go ask your Indian soldiers to leak more videos so that the Chinese side can reveal more.

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Chinese intrusion in Galwan lasted for two weeks before it was cleared by Indian troops

ABHIJIT IYER-MITRA 2 June, 2020

If Pangong was a case of rapid intrusions that lasted mere hours, Galwan was a case of a minor intrusion that lasted a few weeks. Satellite images from a classified and proprietary report in possession of the defence ministry, seen by one of the authors have been visualised below. Given the extremely high-resolution, sensitive and proprietary nature of the original images, we are unable to share them.

Those images have confirmed three things: 1) the intrusions in Galwan were at a single point, involving not more than 40 to 50 Chinese troops; 2) the Chinese intrusion lasted at best for two weeks and had been cleared by the third week of May, when the status quo was restored in the Galwan sector. 3) However, a serious situation has arisen due to China cutting off the waters of the Galwan river through dam-building, which amounts to a weaponisation of China’s upper riparian rights. If not challenged immediately, this could lead to cutting off of waters to other rivers with serious consequences for agriculture and potable water in India.


Galwan, second and third week of May
Below is the area of contention in Galwan at the moment, marked with a red cross. Its location with respect to the Union territory of Ladakh and Pangong lake can be seen here – the large, snake-like water body a few inches below.

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Image 1 | OpenStreetMap
A zoom-in of this area (Image 2) on Google Maps shows the orientation of the Galwan river relative to Pangong and the Line of Actual Control (LAC). As can be seen, the Galwan, which is a tributary of the Shyok river, joins the latter just a few kilometres after crossing the LAC. It is the area where it crosses the LAC that is of interest to us.

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Image 2 | Google Earth

The disputed area in question has been superimposed here on Image 3.

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Image 3 | OpenStreetMap

To understand the dispute, the red line denotes the LAC with reference to the point of contention.

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Image 4 | Google Maps

The following are the images of the area captured in second week of May. The four boxes are important here.


Box 1 shows the main Indian supply route – a white trail running parallel to the southern edge of the Galwan valley. Where this trail ends a congregation of Indian trucks can be seen. The original report confirms the trucks as being Indian manufactured.

Box 2 is the halfway supply point showing another concentration of Indian vehicles and equipment. The high resolution images seen by the author in the original report confirm that these are Indian manufactured trucks and equipment.

Box 3 is where things grow interesting. The white dot here is a large Indian tent that has emerged. We know this is Indian because persistent surveillance by us showed a steady stream of equipment being supplied to this tent from the vehicles in box 2.

Box 4 shows two small, dark-coloured Chinese tents, directly facing-off the Indian tent from across the fold in the river. A reference to Image 4 clearly shows that these two Chinese tents were on the Indian side of the LAC up until third week of May, with the fold in the river being entirely on the Indian side. Moreover, the supplies to these two tents were observed coming from the south, that is to say the Chinese side of the LAC.

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Image 5 | Visualised after going through images of a classified and proprietary report in possession of the MoD accessed by the author

The close-up below shows the exact area of the face-off between the second and third week of May. The Indian tent is the large white tent on the left and Chinese tents are the two smaller dark tents on the right of the image. Note that the larger Indian tent can hold up to 30-40 soldiers while the smaller Chinese ones would hold approximately 15 to 25 soldiers each.

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Image 6 | Visualised after going through images of a classified and proprietary report in possession of the MoD accessed by the author
Also read: Standoff between India & China in Ladakh should be resolved bilaterally: Australia

Galwan, fourth week of May
However, starting week four, everything changes. As can be seen in Image 7, the two Chinese tents are no longer there and the large Indian tent has moved across the river and set up in the fold of the river. Our surveillance also confirmed that this tent was now being supplied from box 2 in Image 5. This clearly establishes that by the fourth week of May, any Chinese intrusion had been repulsed and the integrity of the LAC had been re-established.

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Image 7 | Courtesy Nathan Ruser

Scanning the entire Galwan area, this was the only tangible “infrastructure” one could pick up. In fact, not only was there nothing to report on the other points, where the Galwan runs close to the LAC, but even here, the maximum number of Chinese troops was 40 to 50 at best. Nowhere in this entire region was anything seen supporting either a large force or a large build-up of forces on the Chinese side. While it is possible that like in Pangong there may have been rapid drive through Chinese reconnaissance as described in part one of this report, the terrain simply would not support the rapid vehicles like the Dongfeng CSK131.

The trouble
One thing, however, did stand out in the images (The images in the report with the Ministry of Defence) for second and third week of May, did show the Galwan river in full flow. However, by fourth week the flow had dried up completely, exposing the rocks in the river bed, indicating that the Chinese had stopped/diverted the waters. This is re-confirmed in Image 7. This is a serious breach of trust and runs contrary to the Chinese assurances at several international forums that it would not block or divert waters of south and westwards flowing rivers originating in the Tibet plateau.

What this means is that China has weaponised its upper riparian rights. If it is allowed to do so, without strong opposition and internationalisation, then China will in all likelihood start cutting off waters to other rivers flowing not just into India like the Brahmaputra but also Southeast Asia like the Mekong.

This is the second major source of the current tension apart from the deep (albeit temporary) incursions seen in Pangong.


The images collected throughout the month of May and seen in the report with the Ministry of Defence confirm as specific sequence in Galwan. The second and third week of May did see a minor ingress of Chinese troops, but by the fourth week this ingress had been turned back and the sanctity of the LAC restored.

However, the stoppage or diversion of the Galwan’s waters by the Chinese has serious repercussions in international law and the rights of lower riparian states as it indicates that China has breached past promises and is willing to use water as a geopolitical tool.

https://theprint.in/opinion/chinese...-troops/428658/?amp&__twitter_impression=true
India crying of using water as a blackmail geopolitical tool. Really? Irony is crying
 
https://theprint.in/opinion/no-chin...mages-show-fast-in-and-out-intrusions/433209/


No Chinese ‘occupation’. Geolocated images show fast in-and-out intrusions by India and China

We have been surveilling the India-China Line of Actual Control or LAC in Ladakh area almost real-time since several
stand-offs were reported a few weeks back, using satellite imagery. For the most part, we found not a single blade of grass amiss save for a brief Chinese encampment on the Indian side of the Galwan Valley. That intrusion was so small — around 40 to 60 Chinese troops — that it simply did not merit the kind of rhetoric and escalation that we have seen over the last fortnight.

However, the inadvertent release of an unauthenticated video (showing Indian troops allegedly attacking Chinese troops and their vehicle) and of an image (showing the Chinese allegedly having bound and apprehended Indian troops) provided us vital clues on what has been happening to justify the heightened tensions. Using these two visual sources we were able to not just triangulate the exact location of the fracas, but also the approximate dates and sequence of events.

It turns out our initial assessment of the situation — that there is no Chinese occupation of Indian territory — is quite correct. The reason the satellites did not see any “occupation” is that there was none. Instead, what has been happening is a series of fast-paced in-and-out intrusions by the forces of India and China into each other’s territory. While the gravity of China’s provocation has been much more serious, but note that India stemmed this, push the Chinese back and retaliated swiftly in order to re-establish deterrence.
Did you forget to post the whole article?
 
i think china should warn u.s that they should pressure india to withdraw from ladakh otherwise china will go for all out war which can turn in to ww3 and may result in nuclear strikes on u.s mainland if china existence is threatened
LOL the Indians are still begging China to restore the status quo. If no deal by June 6 then its war.
 
Hope so.
Indian army is eagerly waiting.

Again Indian internet global warrior - why would you want Indian soldiers to lose their lives? Any sane person would want deescalation and a peaceful resolve to the delicate situation where no loss of life is incurred.

Its okay for the likes of you to be sitting behind your keyboard and potentially allow others lives to be sacrificed when its not your own blood or family blood.

Indians need to see the reality clear. Saving face should now be an after thought - negotiate a peaceful and amicable solution ....... or suffer more humiliation. A war is not what both parties need or want.
 

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