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its like this, communist:

it does not matter how bad the indians are because attacking them is no use even if we score a decisive victory on the battlefield we lose politically. a US ploy.

even if we dominate the indians, the US might build bases in india or near it, and from that point on we'll be looking at a complete US encirclement except for a 1000 km russian border.

once the US pulls out of asia/collapses, every other problem will be solved, including india.
 
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its like this, communist:

it does not matter how bad the indians are because attacking them is no use even if we score a decisive victory on the battlefield we lose politically. a US ploy.

even if we dominate the indians, the US might build bases in india or near it, and from that point on we'll be looking at a complete US encirclement except for a 1000 km russian border.

once the US pulls out of asia/collapses, every other problem will be solved, including india.

Hahah well you can keep dreaming boy. Without us, your economy can tumble downhill non-stop till you hit the bottom. Your India problem is rather an independent issue that has nothing to do with America, so please quit pointing fingers around here. All we're doing is supplying military gear, as you do. However, Indian motives are outside our control and are fueled by their leaders-Not ours. Admit it, without our aid, neither of our economies will stand where they are today.
 
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Hahah well you can keep dreaming boy. Without us, your economy can tumble downhill non-stop till you hit the bottom. Your India problem is rather an independent issue that has nothing to do with America, so please quit pointing fingers around here. All we're doing is supplying military gear, as you do. However, Indian motives are outside our control and are fueled by their leaders-Not ours. Admit it, without our aid, neither of our economies will stand where they are today.

Aid implies that the US is doing it out of charity; it is not. In fact, the US is one of the countries that do not have significant tech transfers in their investments. Japan, Germany, France, Russia, all signed significant tech transfer deals with China. The US, because of its paranoia in us getting some "sensitive technology" shared little. In terms of trade, the EU is a larger share of our exports.

There is no aid here. we do business. do you consider that you are providing "aid" to the store when you buy food?

As for the India problem, turning a blind eye to india's illegal nuclear weapons and then aiding them by selling reactors to them does not help your case. nor does offering them AEGIS.
 
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Hahah well you can keep dreaming boy. Without us, your economy can tumble downhill non-stop till you hit the bottom. Your India problem is rather an independent issue that has nothing to do with America, so please quit pointing fingers around here. All we're doing is supplying military gear, as you do. However, Indian motives are outside our control and are fueled by their leaders-Not ours. Admit it, without our aid, neither of our economies will stand where they are today.

lol if chinese shifted its foreign resereves( which are more then 4 trillion dollars if i am not wrong ) from dollar to another stable currency then its going to b end of US dollar :azn: remember last year chinese were just talking about to shift its 1 trillion foreign reserves to shift into euro dollar crashed to its lowest level in history :disagree:
 
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Hahah well you can keep dreaming boy. Without us, your economy can tumble downhill non-stop till you hit the bottom. Your India problem is rather an independent issue that has nothing to do with America, so please quit pointing fingers around here. All we're doing is supplying military gear, as you do. However, Indian motives are outside our control and are fueled by their leaders-Not ours. Admit it, without our aid, neither of our economies will stand where they are today.

Without Chinese goods Americans can only afford to wear one pair of socks, pants or bras through the week. No fresh change during a week... haha, I am kidding...

But, US buys only 20% of Chinese exports it's no longer a crucial deal for China. If US suddenly bans import of all Chinese goods the quality of American daily life will go down straightly to the sink. China would help by dumping dollars and let you fall like a stone. More than 2 trillions debt and Geoge Washington papers ain't just a piece of cake for the dollar empire to handle. In addition there are lots of US haters who are going to add to the flame if China would ignite the dollar dumping.

China is actually a business partner to US, but so far, has been treated as an enemy.

China will be hurt, of course. But CCP would arrest 100000 corrupted officials and sofisticate properties of 100000 criminal business men. One could also nationalize everything and set up a ration system again. Problem solved! This is what communism is all about, don't forget it.
 
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don't be jalous, baby , chinese are best and thats all, now go to:lazy:


good work brothers!:china::pakistan:
I am sure by 2015 you will be no1! all my pray are with china!

Yup good work indeed .. Pakistan are proud of Chinese brothers.

Brothers who dont believe in same faith.
Space Today Online - China - The Nation at a Glance

Brothers who dont understand a single word if put face to face.

Less than 1% even speak english .
Even Pakistan has more than 10% population speaking english.

List of countries by English-speaking population - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Brothers who doesnt have much trade not even top 20 considering countries like hongkong Taiwan, Netherlands, malaysia singapore which are much much smaller than the brother country..


Top Ten Trading Partners (2008/1-5)
2008-07-03 15:22


Unit:US$100,000,000
Rank Country (Region) Jan.- May Increase ±% Share ±% Change in Share ±%
Total Value 10,120.8 26.2 100.0 0.0
1 E.U. 1,660.2 27.9 16.4 0.2
2 U.S.A. 1,304.7 13.3 12.9 -1.5
3 Japan 1,065.6 16.8 10.5 -0.9
4 ASEAN 955.5 26.9 9.4 0.0
5 Hong Kong 799.7 9.6 7.9 -1.2
6 ROK 758.2 24.0 7.5 -0.1
7 Taiwan 561.0 23.1 5.5 -0.2
8 India 241.6 70.3 2.4 0.6
9 Australia 222.6 39.4 2.2 0.2
10 Russia 221.3 39.2 2.2 0.2
Note: Ranking by total imports and exports.

Maybe selling weapons and buying weapons are the only criteria for brotherhood.
:pakistan::china::china::pakistan:
 
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Yup good work indeed .. Pakistan are proud of Chinese brothers.

Brothers who dont believe in same faith.
Space Today Online - China - The Nation at a Glance

Brothers who dont understand a single word if put face to face.

Less than 1% even speak english .
Even Pakistan has more than 10% population speaking english.

List of countries by English-speaking population - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Brothers who doesnt have much trade not even top 20 considering countries like hongkong Taiwan, Netherlands, malaysia singapore which are much much smaller than the brother country..


Top Ten Trading Partners (2008/1-5)
2008-07-03 15:22


Unit:US$100,000,000
Rank Country (Region) Jan.- May Increase ±% Share ±% Change in Share ±%
Total Value 10,120.8 26.2 100.0 0.0
1 E.U. 1,660.2 27.9 16.4 0.2
2 U.S.A. 1,304.7 13.3 12.9 -1.5
3 Japan 1,065.6 16.8 10.5 -0.9
4 ASEAN 955.5 26.9 9.4 0.0
5 Hong Kong 799.7 9.6 7.9 -1.2
6 ROK 758.2 24.0 7.5 -0.1
7 Taiwan 561.0 23.1 5.5 -0.2
8 India 241.6 70.3 2.4 0.6
9 Australia 222.6 39.4 2.2 0.2
10 Russia 221.3 39.2 2.2 0.2
Note: Ranking by total imports and exports.

Maybe selling weapons and buying weapons are the only criteria for brotherhood.
:pakistan::china::china::pakistan:



u didnt mentioned how much chinese have invested in pakistan ,, even they are going to invest 50 billion dollars in pakistan in upcoming years n china is going to develop mega industrial city in punjab pakistan :china::pakistan: yeah chinese are our brothers :china:
 
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even u didnt mentioned the investment of chinese in blochistan gawadar port :cheers: u also didnt mentioned chinese investing in thar coal project .. thar coal is having one of the largest coal reserves of world :cheers:
 
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chinese investment in pakistan:

Chinese companies already account for an important part of foreign investment in Pakistan. About 500 foreign companies are now operating in Pakistan, 60 of which are Chinese.

Many of these companies are operating in the public utilities and infrastructure sectors, such as mining, telecommunication and energy.


[ if i am not wrong these industries are not part of defence industry lol ]:cheesy:

But an increasing number of Chinese consumer goods manufacturers are entering the country. White goods maker Haier is already there and so are Shenzhen-based telecommunications firm ZTE, Shanghai-based electronic maker SVA and a number of motorcycle companies from Chongqing.

http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/english/doc/2004-12/26/content_403376.htm


:disagree: u guys have lack of information about china pakistan relationship lol :azn:
 
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A brief history of the two countries' strategic relationship.

There are 10,000 Chinese workers engaged in 120 projects in Pakistan today. In 2007 Chinese investment in Pakistan was valued at $4 billion, a figure that's estimated to grow to $15 billion by 2010. Given the range of multibillion-dollar projects in which different Chinese companies are currently involved, it is safe to assume that Chinese investment in Pakistan has already exceeded $20 billion, says Tarique Niazi. (Even the colorful auto-rickshaws that run on the streets of Lahore and the North West Frontier Province are made in China.)

China-Pakistan strategic relations began in the late 1950s, when then prime minister Hussain Shaheed Suhrawardy met with Chinese premier Zhou Enlai in Indonesia for the foundational meeting of the Non Aligned Movement countries. Later Pakistani leader Zulfikar Ali Bhutto, in his varying capacities as minister of natural resources or of foreign affairs, as well as president and prime minister, tended these relations to their strategic heights, says Niazi.

There was a dramatic growth in relations when the two countries signed their first trade agreement in 1963; a boundary agreement the same year helped China boost its defense of its Uighur autonomous region of Xinjiang on the China-Pakistan border. In 1966 the two countries started construction of the Karakoram Highway, along one of the old silk routes. Another binding factor was a common enemy: India, which during those years had engaged in separate wars with Pakistan and China.

State-owned companies--including Tianjin Zhongbei Harbor Engineering Supervision Corp., China Harbor Engineering Company Group, MCC and the Bureau of Geophysical Prospecting (BGP)--are working on a range of projects in Baluchistan. The Chinese also have almost exclusive oil exploration rights in Baluchistan, though these were being opposed by a tribal chief named Nawab Akbar Bugti, says Niazi. In 2006 the chief was assassinated, reportedly with the help of a "friendly" country.

Another area of heavy Chinese investment is Gwadar Port, where Tianjin Zhongbei Harbor Engineering is working on a $1.6 billion project. Next to the port, the China Harbor Engineering Co. is building an international airport. In the same region, China's Great United Petroleum Holdings is developing a $13 billion oil refinery.

China In Pakistan - Forbes.com


yes chinese are our brothers :rofl:
 
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Yup good work indeed .. Pakistan are proud of Chinese brothers.

Brothers who dont believe in same faith.
Space Today Online - China - The Nation at a Glance

Brothers who dont understand a single word if put face to face.

Less than 1% even speak english .
Even Pakistan has more than 10% population speaking english.

List of countries by English-speaking population - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Brothers who doesnt have much trade not even top 20 considering countries like hongkong Taiwan, Netherlands, malaysia singapore which are much much smaller than the brother country..


Top Ten Trading Partners (2008/1-5)
2008-07-03 15:22


Unit:US$100,000,000
Rank Country (Region) Jan.- May Increase ±% Share ±% Change in Share ±%
Total Value 10,120.8 26.2 100.0 0.0
1 E.U. 1,660.2 27.9 16.4 0.2
2 U.S.A. 1,304.7 13.3 12.9 -1.5
3 Japan 1,065.6 16.8 10.5 -0.9
4 ASEAN 955.5 26.9 9.4 0.0
5 Hong Kong 799.7 9.6 7.9 -1.2
6 ROK 758.2 24.0 7.5 -0.1
7 Taiwan 561.0 23.1 5.5 -0.2
8 India 241.6 70.3 2.4 0.6
9 Australia 222.6 39.4 2.2 0.2
10 Russia 221.3 39.2 2.2 0.2
Note: Ranking by total imports and exports.

Maybe selling weapons and buying weapons are the only criteria for brotherhood.
:pakistan::china::china::pakistan:

Isnt Hongkong apart of china??? Or Isnt Taiwan apart of china??? And what the relations between being brother and English speaking population??? And what the relations between being brother and being bussiness partner??? If using your logic, Japanese and Uncle Sam would be chinese best brother. OMZ And what is the point about your post???
 
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Chinese investors to invest $50bn in Punjab

LAHORE: Chinese investors have shown to invest 50 billion dollars in Punjab during the next 10 years, a diplomat informed.
At a meeting held at the head office of Punjab Industrial Estates (PIE) and Development & Management Company (DMC) here, Yan Li, —leader of a seven-member Chinese delegation and chairman Tengzhong group of China—said that the objective of the investment will be to construct a modern and large industrial city along with an industrial estate on 100,000 acres of land.

The meeting was presided over by PIE chairman S M Tanveer. The meeting was also attended by special adviser to chief minister of Punjab Haroon Khawaja, Punjab Planning & Development Department chairman, Provincial Secretary Industries, Suhan Zuberi from Meril Lynch, CEO Pak China Bureau Zafarul din Mahmood and CEO PIE Ali Muzzam.
The leader of the delegation said that the investment will provide employment to 100,000 families and their group would not only construct a special economic zone but also hospitals and other welfare projects along with the mega project.
He said that according to the first year plan, about five to seven billion dollars will be invested.
He mentioned that his group intended to invest up to 50 billion dollars in total; however, the Punjab government should provide a an investment-friendly atmosphere
PIE chairman SM Tanveer informed the delegation that under the visionary leadership of Punjab Chief Minister Shahbaz Sharif, the Punjab government is striving hard to attract foreign investment. The visit of the Chinese delegation is a follow-up of Sharif’s visit to China in November, he added.—APP



yes chinese are our brothers :smitten: they are helping us in every field :smokin: :china::pakistan:
 
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Hahah well you can keep dreaming boy. Without us, your economy can tumble downhill non-stop till you hit the bottom. Your India problem is rather an independent issue that has nothing to do with America, so please quit pointing fingers around here. All we're doing is supplying military gear, as you do. However, Indian motives are outside our control and are fueled by their leaders-Not ours. Admit it, without our aid, neither of our economies will stand where they are today.

If China stop buying US debts and US$ will be a piece of rubbish! Of course, we will be hitting our toes too.
 
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even u didnt mentioned the investment of chinese in blochistan gawadar port u also didnt mentioned chinese investing in thar coal project .. thar coal is having one of the largest coal reserves of world

The presence of China in Pakistan's deep sea strategic port has disturbed the United States. Washington fears that the port might be used as a listening post to monitor US military activities in the Persian Gulf.
India, Pakistani analysts say, has a different kind of fear.


this will give China a head-start over the United States in trade with Central Asia, especially the oil and gas trade. So a new Great Game is on and Pakistan appears to be paying a heavy price.

Balochistan burning: Great Game over Gwadar Port

(1) It is also widely claimed that there is a Chinese interest in reaching the blue waters of Arabian Sea. This is cited as a strategic move by Chinese as they funded US $198 million (out of total phase I cost of US $248 million) and also provided 450 Engineers on site to finish the project on time. It is said that China is trying to develop its Western regions at par with its Eastern regions to reduce the economic gap within China and to stop the internal migration of people from West to East. It is famously called their ‘Go West’ policy. To market products produced in Western China, ports of Shanghai or other eastern ports are almost 3000 km away from the western production centers where as Gwadar provides access to a port at just 1500 km.

(2) There is another dimension to this project where Gwadar port is considered as the naval outpost for the Chinese. It has been called part of ‘String of Pearls’ strategy of Chinese where they’ve got hold of strategic ports in Gwadar, Bangladesh, SriLanka, Burma, Thailand, Combodia, and South China Sea etc. On a world map, these ports form of string (of pearls) which may form as Chinese line of defense to control oil movement. 80% of oil used in China goes through shipping lines of Malacca Straits. This strategy of a series of ports along the oil shipment routes gives China a forward footing. It is said that China is also wary that US may cut off its oil supplies through Malacca straits in case of any increase of hostilities on Taiwan issue.

(3) China has however, always denied that Gwadar will ever be used by Chinese military. Publicly they have always called it a civilian port of Pakistan.

Dimension Three: Iranian and Indian Interests in the Area

(1) Gwadar port is also making regional players nervous. Iran which is only 72 km away from Gwadar considers it as an economic threat taking business away from Iranian ports. So in competition to Gwadar, Iran has developed its own port called Chabahar with the help of India. Chabahar is located in Iranian Balochistan province of Seestan. India is also building 213 km long road to connect this Iranian port with Afghanistan. India is eyeing this Iranian port as its own shortest route to Central Asian markets and may be a counter balance to Chinese influence in Gwadar.

(2) India may also consider the Chinese influence in Gwadar as a move by China to encircle India, hence their interest in developing Iranian port of Chabahar.

Gwadar Port: A Great Development Project Or A Great Game? : ALL THINGS PAKISTAN


It is obvious that it is for Chinas interest. and mature countries dont usually give access to ports to other countries.:toast_sign:


Chinese companies already account for an important part of foreign investment in Pakistan. About 500 foreign companies are now operating in Pakistan, 60 of which are Chinese.

Many of these companies are operating in the public utilities and infrastructure sectors, such as mining, telecommunication and energy.


What about the other 440 companies owned by other countries?/ Arent they brothers too????:thinktank:


chinese investing in thar coal project .. thar coal is having one of the largest coal reserves of world

Pakistan’s Thar coal: a comparative study
By Kamran Riaz
In Pakistan, people, who have absolutely no knowledge of an issue under discussion, tell conspiracy theories about it with such conviction that one starts believing that perhaps these people are narrating a firsthand account of acts to which they were eye witnesses.
Something similar is happening with Thar Coal today. Print and electronic media are awash with stories about how we have the world’s largest reserves of coal in the Thar desert but still we are not benefiting from this coal.

Coal occurs in nature in different types. The deposits at Thar are of Lignite type of coal. These deposits have very high moisture content with water level approaching almost 50% and are considered to be of inferior quality. This coal is highly volatile and cannot be transported over long distances. So, exporting this coal after extraction from ground or transporting it to more convenient locations is not possible. That is why it is suitable primarily for mine-mouth power generation.
The size of these reserves is being reported as 175 billion tons and this figure is being repeatedly touted on the media as enough for fulfilling our power generation needs for centuries to come.

The fact is that the reported reserves of 175 billion tons at Thar are not “proved-recoverable” reserves but rather the bulk of these reserves have a relatively low degree of geological assurance. Out of these purported 175 billion tons, only about 2.7 billion tons are ‘measured’ reserves while about 9.3 billion tons are ‘indicated’ reserves. The remaining 163 billion tons are “inferred” reserves (lying within a radius of 1.2 to 4.8 km from a point of coal measurement) and “hypothetical” reserves (undiscovered coal, generally an extension of inferred reserves in which coal lies more than 4.8 km from a point of measurement). It is obvious that given the geological evidence so far available, the claim of 175 billion tons of reserves is highly speculative. If the Thar coal reserves had really been that big as is being claimed then there would have been a long queue of international mining giants trying to get concessions for mining rights. If such companies can go to places like war torn Iraq, they can certainly come to Pakistan. But the apparent lack of interest from foreign investors as a tell tale sign that these claims of huge and profitable reserves are not believed by the major players in the field.

In fact after doing a preliminary feasibility study in 2002, Shenhua had reached the conclusion that the Thar coal project was not feasible purely an economic basis at that time because the cost of extraction of coal was very high and based on international coal prices at the time, it made more sense to import coal for power generation. However, the company recommended that Thar coal should still be exploited for social reasons as the project would help in social uplift of the extremely backward Thar area.
It is also another myth that this project will alleviate the need for hydel electricity. The fact is that any electricity eventually produced from Thar coal would be at least twice as expensive as that generated from large dams.



full text in following link

Pakistan?s Thar coal: a comparative study | Overseas Pakistani Friends

Top ten countries Lignite Coal Reserves
(Million tons)
01. Australia 37.30
02. USA 30.24
03. China 18.60
04. Serbia (Kosovo) 13.50
05. Russian Federation 10.45
06. Germany 6.56
07. India 4.60
08. Greece 3.90
09. Kazakhstan 3.13
10. Hungry 2.93
Total proved Recoverable
Lignite Coal reserves
in all the countries of the
world combined 149.86
Source:World

Rank Country/Region Coal production
(million tonnes) share of
total (%)
World 6,395.6 100
1 China 2,536.7 39.7
2 United States 1,039.2 16.2
European Union 590.5 9.2
3 India 478.2 7.5
4 Australia 393.9 6.2
5 Russia 314.2 4.9
6 South Africa 269.4 4.2
7 Germany 201.9 3.2
8 Indonesia 174.8 2.7
9 Poland 145.8 2.3
10 Kazakhstan 94.4 1.5
11 Turkey 76.6 1.2
12 Ukraine 76.3 1.2
13 Colombia 71.7 1.1
14 Canada 69.4 1.1
15 Czech Republic 62.6 1.0
16 Greece 62.5 1.0
17 Vietnam 41.2 0.6
18 Romania 35.4 0.6
19 Bulgaria 30.4 0.5
20 Thailand 18.3 0.3
21 Spain 18.2 0.3
22 United Kingdom 17.0 0.3
23 Mexico 12.2 0.2
24 Hungary 9.8 0.2
25 Venezuela 8.0 0.1
26 Brazil 5.9 0.1
27 New Zealand 4.6 0.1
28 Pakistan 3.6 0.1
28 Zimbabwe 3.3
29 South Korea 3.2
31 Japan 1.3
32 France 0.9

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There are 10,000 Chinese workers engaged in 120 projects in Pakistan today

Today in the United States, there are more than 3.3 million Chinese — about 1% of the total population — of which, by far the vast majority belongs to the middle class social stratum. The influx continues, where each year ethnic Chinese people from the People's Republic of China, Taiwan and to a lesser extent Southeast Asia move to the US.

MAYBE US AND CHINA ARE ALSO BROTHERS or maybe BLOOD RELATED BROTHERS since 10,000 and 3.3 million has such a big difference mathematically. And oh yes by the way India has 189,470 chinese working there. so what should i call ur theory ???:hitwall:

Overseas Chinese - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
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Isnt Hongkong apart of china??? Or Isnt Taiwan apart of china???

Hong Kong[7] (Chinese: 香港) is one of the two special administrative regions of the People's Republic of China. Under the principle of "one country, two systems", Hong Kong runs on economic and political systems different from those of mainland China.[11] Hong Kong is one of the world's leading international financial centres, with a major capitalist service economy characterised by low taxation, free trade and minimum government intervention under the ethos of positive non-interventionism.[12] The Hong Kong dollar is the 9th most traded currency in the world.[13]
Hong Kong's independent judiciary functions under the common law framework.[14] Its political system is governed by the Basic Law of Hong Kong, its constitutional document. It has a burgeoning multi-party system, and its legislature is partly elected through universal suffrage. The Chief Executive of Hong Kong is the head of government.


And taiwan a part of China?? I am so ashamed that you have no idea about Taiwan<. Maybe you have read why china protests over US sales to Taiwan and all in various posts and you still believe Taiwan is a part of China... I cant lecture you more on Taiwan and i dont want to

Come on brother show some sense
 
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