Chinese hypersonic research

[TheTheoryOfMilitaryLogistics]

The top speed of the WU-14 is actually Mach 24, but the US just refuses to acknowledge it publically.

They even can't intercept DF-21D and DF-26,not to mention the WU-14.

 

[Viet]

They even can't intercept DF-21D and DF-26,not to mention the WU-14.

how about this: a new US technology, rail gun, with projectiles flying as fast as 7 times the speed of sound (9,072 km/h) can target incoming balistic missiles. like a rattle gun. can be installed on battleships. in fact, the US Naval Surface Warfare Center (Virginia) plans to induct a new generation of destroyers in 2016, more advanced than of zumwald destroyer class, equipped with rail guns.

Kratos Receives $20 Million Electromagnetic Railgun Program Contract Award Nasdaq:KTOS

http://www.pt-magazin.de/newsartike...hallgeschwindigkeit-kurz-vor-einfuehrung.html

 

[cnleio]

I have no problem with china having nukes. I believe the US has no problem, either. or I would say it is a perception of threat how they see you, and how you make your intention clear to others. it is their perception of others, that matters. how Vietnam sees you, it is a question, too.

U.S / Russia / China etc update & improve their ICBMs, just in case of WWIII. We all knew Vietnam won't fight the nuclear war, why China need care how Vietnam see us ?

 

[Viet]

U.S / Russia / China etc update & improve their ICBMs, just in case of WWIII. We all knew Vietnam won't fight the nuclear war, why China need care how Vietnam see us ?

not nukes my friend. my point is: it is not how you see yourself, but how others see you.
you say being peaceful. but will other see you as peaceful as you claim.

 

[cnleio]

not nukes my friend. my point is: it is not how you see yourself, but how others see you.
you say being peaceful. but will other see you as peaceful as you claim.

There's no absolute Peace, but compared with U.S China is more Peaceful & much less foreign war ... in the world i think China has more friends than Vietnam, isn't Vietnam a Peaceful nation ?

 

[JayMandan]

Geopolitics..no real friends.

 

[FairAndUnbiased]

tiger bro, the 1-2-3 agreement US and Vietnam allows us to either buy enriched uranium on the world market or enrich by ourselves. but I think we wait for more powerful stuff plutonium, when our future nuclear power plants produce such byproducts en mass. we don´t need to kill our enemy 100 times, one time is enough. so normal nuclear bombs would be ok to do the job. no need for h-bombs.

lol normal nuclear bombs can't even be fit onto a missile warhead while having a respectable yield so you'll have to make thousands. India's entire nuclear arsenal of 100 regular atomic bombs has less power than a single Chinese hydrogen bomb, and that's India, an established nuclear power.

currently Vietnam is not a military target but your regime seems very intent on making Vietnam a target.

 

[terranMarine]

This Viet now talking about peace, how amusing. I remember he once said if Vietnam had China's power, it would have conquered East Asia.

 

[Bussard Ramjet]

@Viet

You do know US invaded Iraq because of the alleged presence of WMDs.

Do you think China will sit quiet, if there is any indication of a WMD in Vietnam?

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

lol normal nuclear bombs can't even be fit onto a missile warhead while having a respectable yield so you'll have to make thousands. India's entire nuclear arsenal of 100 regular atomic bombs has less power than a single Chinese hydrogen bomb, and that's India, an established nuclear power.

currently Vietnam is not a military target but your regime seems very intent on making Vietnam a target.

Exactly, without thermonuclear weapons, there is no MAD.

India/Pakistan only have fission warheads, they don't have thermonuclear tech or ICBM's (things China developed in the 1960's-1970's).

A 20 kiloton fission bomb will only destroy a few city blocks (you'll need several in order to destroy a large city), and the warhead is very large/heavy so you can't use MIRV.

Thermonuclear weapons are on a different scale. They are several hundred times more powerful than fission bombs (DF-5 has a 5 megaton warhead), and are much easier to miniaturize. So 10 MIRV thermonuclear warheads can be fit into a single missile such as the DF-41 (with a reduced yield per MIRV warhead than for a single warhead).

 

[cirr]

Release devine sword and harvest peace。

DF-10A and DF-12？DF-20？HQ-19？26？29？

Definitely NOT the YJ-18。

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

Exactly, without thermonuclear weapons, there is no MAD.

India/Pakistan only have fission warheads, they don't have thermonuclear tech or ICBM's (things China developed in the 1960's-1970's).

A 20 kiloton fission bomb will only destroy a few city blocks (you'll need several in order to destroy a large city), and the warhead is very large/heavy so you can't use MIRV.

Thermonuclear weapons are on a different scale. They are several hundred times more powerful than fission bombs (DF-5 has a 5 megaton warhead), and are much easier to miniaturize. So 10 MIRV thermonuclear warheads can be fit into a single missile such as the DF-41 (with a reduced yield per MIRV warhead than for a single warhead).

Basically, a 5 megatons thermonuclear warhead carried by the DF-5 is a metropolitan city buster with one single shot.

When dealing with the smaller cities, the DF-41 will carry ten 500 kilotons thermonuclear warheads to attack 10 smaller cities at once.

 

[TheTheoryOfMilitaryLogistics]

how about this: a new US technology, rail gun, with projectiles flying as fast as 7 times the speed of sound (9,072 km/h) can target incoming balistic missiles. like a rattle gun. can be installed on battleships. in fact, the US Naval Surface Warfare Center (Virginia) plans to induct a new generation of destroyers in 2016, more advanced than of zumwald destroyer class, equipped with rail guns.

Kratos Receives $20 Million Electromagnetic Railgun Program Contract Award Nasdaq:KTOS

"Railgun" mit 7facher Schallgeschwindigkeit kurz vor Einführung - P.T. Magazin

LOL,either the rail gun or laser weapon is in the testing stage.
Whether they can be competent for intercepting ordinary missles or not is still a problem.
By contrast,DF-21D and DF-26 are active weapons of PLA in the moment.
Assuming that the rail gun and laser weapon eventually succeed,they still can't intercept DF-21D
missle.
To rail gun,the initial velocity of cannonball is about 7~8 mach and this speed will keep reducing since
the cannonball leave the rail.But the speed of DF-21D exceeds 10 mach and it's maneuvering guidence.
God bless that the low-speed cannonball can hit the high-speed missile from a down direction to a up direction.
To laser weapon,its insufficient power requires a 3~5 second focusing on the same place of the missile warhead.
10 mach x 3second=10200 meters.God bless that the laser weapon can keep catching the same point on the missile war head.
And we even don't consider the air protection cover of the missile warhead in above situation.When the warhead reach 10 mach,the air near the warhead will be compressed and ionized.The density of this air
cover will be much bigger than the normal air.And the light of laser will scatter when it through this air cover.
This means that the laser weapon needs more time to destroy the warhead.But time is life in the war.10-mach warhead won't give you enough time to complete the process of catching,aiming and destroying.
By the way,the ionized air cover will make the electronic jamming difficultlly achieve its goal.

 

[onebyone]

viet is nato member

No Action Talk Only

 

[Viet]

LOL,either the rail gun or laser weapon is in the testing stage.
Whether they can be competent for intercepting ordinary missles or not is still a problem.
By contrast,DF-21D and DF-26 are active weapons of PLA in the moment.
Assuming that the rail gun and laser weapon eventually succeed,they still can't intercept DF-21D
missle.
To rail gun,the initial velocity of cannonball is about 7~8 mach and this speed will keep reducing since
the cannonball leave the rail.But the speed of DF-21D exceeds 10 mach and it's maneuvering guidence.
God bless that the low-speed cannonball can hit the high-speed missile from a down direction to a up direction.
To laser weapon,its insufficient power requires a 3~5 second focusing on the same place of the missile warhead.
10 mach x 3second=10200 meters.God bless that the laser weapon can keep catching the same point on the missile war head.
And we even don't consider the air protection cover of the missile warhead in above situation.When the warhead reach 10 mach,the air near the warhead will be compressed and ionized.The density of this air
cover will be much bigger than the normal air.And the light of laser will scatter when it through this air cover.
This means that the laser weapon needs more time to destroy the warhead.But time is life in the war.10-mach warhead won't give you enough time to complete the process of catching,aiming and destroying.
By the way,the ionized air cover will make the electronic jamming difficultlly achieve its goal.

how about your toy? is your antiship balistic missile ever tested in real scenarios?
I´m curious how do you want to target a moving ship 1,000 miles away.

@Viet

You do know US invaded Iraq because of the alleged presence of WMDs.

Do you think China will sit quiet, if there is any indication of a WMD in Vietnam?

Vietnam is not Irak. China is not America. we have the most powerful army in SE Asia. even the most delusional chinese generals in the PLA would think twice to start a land war. second, by the time we have nukes than it is too late. see north korea. third, even chinese government and posters here claim nukes are peacemaker. a garantine for peace. why should they object vietnam if we want peace?

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