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Even a lot of white man books give credit to General Wei Guoqing, not Võ Nguyên Giáp as instrumental in Battle of Dien Bien Phu.

What is less unknown is a lot of PLA are involved in this battle and it can only be seen in PRC sources. So I am more reluctant to cite it.

The Tragedy of the Vietnam War: A South Vietnamese Officer's Analysis - Van Nguyen Duong - Google Books

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This is big lie, bro.

No one could let General Wei Guoqing do that, for us he is foreigner. Who can trust him ?. He was just taken a relax in jungle near by Ho chi Minh. The role of Wei Guoqing, it was more as diplomatic symbol.
 
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Soviet Union liberated Manchuria, given back big land North East to China, with weapons, human resource, most developed area in China after WW II 1945, without such help you could not facing with KMT (with USA help).


Read history carefully, why do you think relations deteriorated so quickly between ussr and us.

Soviets robbed northern China blind. The major cities were all held by nationalists. That's why there is the campaigns for each city.

Did the Soviets contribute? Yes, to communist, but not to China, it pretty much ruined north China.

The reasons we won are numerous, Mao is a very good propaganda maker, Chen Cheng doubled his army by getting new recruits mixed with the veterans, this weaken the nationalists by a great deal.

years of war with Japanese, weakened any moral for further war, corruption ran rampant, as people wanted to celebrate victory over Japanese, then there is the fact Chang likes to keep his hand in every pie, so the elite units only he can command.

He also pulled Sun liren one of his best. Not to mention the person in charge of Nationalist strategies was communist, and the communist spies with in the ranks of nationalists was too deep, planted during the early cooperation years.


I won't mention more, but don't attribute it to Soviets, everyone knows the Soviet army is no better than Nazis, rape, murder, robbery, common place.
 
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Read history carefully, why do you think relations deteriorated so quickly between ussr and us.

Soviets robbed northern China blind. The major cities were all held by nationalists. That's why there is the campaigns for each city.

Did the Soviets contribute? Yes, to communist, but not to China, it pretty much ruined north China.

The reasons we won are numerous, Mao is a very good propaganda maker, Chen Cheng doubled his army by getting new recruits mixed with the veterans, this weaken the nationalists by a great deal.

years of war with Japanese, weakened any moral for further war, corruption ran rampant, as people wanted to celebrate victory over Japanese, then there is the fact Chang likes to keep his hand in every pie, so the elite units only he can command.

He also pulled Sun liren one of his best. Not to mention the person in charge of Nationalist strategies was communist, and the communist spies with in the ranks of nationalists was too deep, planted during the early cooperation years.


I won't mention more, but don't attribute it to Soviets, everyone knows the Soviet army is no better than Nazis, rape, murder, robbery, common place.

my comment is responded to your guy troll only. i think you understand my idea, and I may be partly understand what do you mean. The history is very complicated.

Turn back to topic, northen warlords or Generals's role in China as you said was the key item for existence of the regime. When generals become too rich, its signal to warning that the regime is going to collapse. So why Mr. Xi Jinping have to do something to preventing the situation getting worsen.

You said about Sun Liren, is he 孫逸仙 ? I think his " shan_ren_zhu_yi " ( 三 民 主 义 ) is not old.
 
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No matter CN is thief or not , CN is better than beggar!!

Cam Ranh Bay !!!
Cam Ranh Bay !!!
Cam Ranh Bay !!!
Cam Ranh Bay !!!

Shame on you !

What stupid troll.

Look at yourself, what about Hongkong and Macau ? white man ruled you until 1999. Lucky number for you. Taiwan is lapdog of US. You dare not do nothing, just barking and barking.

Russian is trusted ally. They provided modern weapon for us to punish idiot thief China if you attack us again. This is repayment, kid.

when the weapon is not free of charge, they have to pay 350 mill US$/ pee/year, they have to go home if Russia don't like to pay. This fair business.

How many money paid White men to you for Hongkong, Macau and Taiwan ?
 
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What stupid troll.

Look at yourself, what about Hongkong and Macau ? white man ruled you until 1999. Lucky number for you. Taiwan is lapdog of US. You dare not do nothing, just barking and barking.
Qing Dynasty was forced to do that , and CN get them back.
We are pround of that


You guys volunteer to sell Cam Ranh Bay agian!!!
You guys volunteer to sell Cam Ranh Bay agian!!!
You guys volunteer to sell Cam Ranh Bay agian!!!
You guys volunteer to sell Cam Ranh Bay agian!!!


Do you shame about that !

Russian is trusted ally. They provided modern weapon for us to punish idiot thief China if you attack us again. This is repayment, kid.

Wow !!

You guys like to use your territory to repay !

What a great nation !

Do you shame about that ??
Do you shame about that ??
Do you shame about that ??
Do you shame about that ??
Do you shame about that ??
Do you shame about that ??
 
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when the weapon is not free of charge, they have to pay 350 mill US$/ pee/year, they have to go home if Russia don't like to pay. This fair business.

How many money paid White men to you for Hongkong, Macau and Taiwan ?

Wow ,you really have a hard mouth !

No matter how much money Khrushchev will pay us for a military base in china , we say "No" .

Cam Ranh Bay is crying because it is treated like a bitch, everyone can **** her if they pay VIET Gov.

Do you shame about that !!!
Do you shame about that !!!
Do you shame about that !!!
Do you shame about that !!!
Do you shame about that !!!
Do you shame about that !!!
 
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Read history carefully, why do you think relations deteriorated so quickly between ussr and us.

Soviets robbed northern China blind. The major cities were all held by nationalists. That's why there is the campaigns for each city.

Did the Soviets contribute? Yes, to communist, but not to China, it pretty much ruined north China.

The reasons we won are numerous, Mao is a very good propaganda maker, Chen Cheng doubled his army by getting new recruits mixed with the veterans, this weaken the nationalists by a great deal.

years of war with Japanese, weakened any moral for further war, corruption ran rampant, as people wanted to celebrate victory over Japanese, then there is the fact Chang likes to keep his hand in every pie, so the elite units only he can command.

He also pulled Sun liren one of his best. Not to mention the person in charge of Nationalist strategies was communist, and the communist spies with in the ranks of nationalists was too deep, planted during the early cooperation years.


I won't mention more, but don't attribute it to Soviets, everyone knows the Soviet army is no better than Nazis, rape, murder, robbery, common place.
Dude , forget about him, he knows nothing !
 
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Qing Dynasty was forced to do that , and CN get them back.
We are pround of that


You guys volunteer to sell Cam Ranh Bay agian!!!
You guys volunteer to sell Cam Ranh Bay agian!!!
You guys volunteer to sell Cam Ranh Bay agian!!!
You guys volunteer to sell Cam Ranh Bay agian!!!


Do you shame about that !



Wow !!

You guys like to use your territory to repay !

What a great nation !

Do you shame about that ??
Do you shame about that ??
Do you shame about that ??
Do you shame about that ??
Do you shame about that ??
Do you shame about that ??

don't you feell any as shameful when you are barking and look at Taiwan is under protectorate of USA, they don't pay nothing to you ?

If Russia prefer to turn back to Cam Ranh bay, they should have to pay more than the price of first promoted 350 mill US$ because the price deviation and US$ devaluation.

This is business, like Chinese tourists have to pay hotel free and accommodation if they stay in Vietnam for temporally visit.

Dude , forget about him, he knows nothing !

you know only what CPC brain washed you.
 
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don't you feell any as shameful when you are barking and look at Taiwan is under protectorate of USA, they don't pay nothing to you ?

If Russia prefer to turn back to Cam Ranh bay, they should have to pay more than the price of first promoted 350 mill US$ because the price deviation and US$ devaluation.

Look at you !

All your concern is the price! If the whoremaster can pay a good price ,you guys will introduce your beautiful bay to him.

And we china concern about whether we have the ability to get back what we lost before!

If our ability is not enough , we keep working hard to get the ability, not like you ,sell territory!

Shame on you !

This is business, like Chinese tourists have to pay hotel free and accommodation if they stay in Vietnam for temporally visit.

aha , you guys are really funny.

You only concern the vistor pay or not , and do not care about they carry a gun or not !

You guys are really hospitable !

you know only what CPC brain washed you.

Really ?

So you guys never sell the Bay?

You are embarrassing yourself!
 
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my comment is responded to your guy troll only. i think you understand my idea, and I may be partly understand what do you mean. The history is very complicated.

Turn back to topic, northen warlords or Generals's role in China as you said was the key item for existence of the regime. When generals become too rich, its signal to warning that the regime is going to collapse. So why Mr. Xi Jinping have to do something to preventing the situation getting worsen.

You said about Sun Liren, is he 孫逸仙 ? I think his " shan_ren_zhu_yi " ( 三 民 主 义 ) is not old.

Sun li ren

Sun Li-jen - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

a personal run down of his life by me.

American trained Chinese general, who graduated from Qinghua, best Chinese university, then and now. The one that took his troops to India on the retreat from Burma, this resulted in the New first and new six army. The undisputed best in Asia.

He was one of a handful that could go head on with the Japanese one for one, except he had the distinction of achieving victory with considerably less casualties than Japanese enemies. These were the elite Japnese that got the honour of first entering Nanjing, and started the massacre, but it really doomed them as you will read.

Though his reputation is strained by him burying all Japanese captives alive due as revenge for his friend and classmate and his second in command, as well as all that perished as a result of them.

But in the end he is one of the most decorated by the Allies, as an Chinese, and got the honour of surveying the European battlefield at Eisenhower's invitation.

He was to take his new first army, nick named best army under the sky, to Japan for occupation, but was instead assigned to Northern China for the civil war. Probably good for Japanese, cause he was a likeable and charismatic man, but very ruthless and which suited his role as commanding General, but as a person not so much.

His later life include victories at every battle against communist, but due to political infighting he was given a pointless command and later relocated to Taiwan to train troops.

As the war deteriorated his Taiwan command was of the utmost importance and Chang usurped his command because there were rumours the Americans offered him the Presidency of Nationalist China. He was under house arrest for the rest of his life, only freed at the death of Chiang ChingKuo, Chiang's son, and later president.
 
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Sun li ren

Sun Li-jen - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

a personal run down of his life by me.

American trained Chinese general, who graduated from Qinghua, best Chinese university, then and now. The one that took his troops to India on the retreat from Burma, this resulted in the New first and new six army. The undisputed best in Asia.

He was one of a handful that could go head on with the Japanese one for one, except he had the distinction of achieving victory with considerably less casualties than Japanese enemies. These were the elite Japnese that got the honour of first entering Nanjing, and started the massacre, but it really doomed them as you will read.

Though his reputation is strained by him burying all Japanese captives alive due as revenge for his friend and classmate and his second in command, as well as all that perished as a result of them.

But in the end he is one of the most decorated by the Allies, as an Chinese, and got the honour of surveying the European battlefield at Eisenhower's invitation.

He was to take his new first army, nick named best army under the sky, to Japan for occupation, but was instead assigned to Northern China for the civil war. Probably good for Japanese, cause he was a likeable and charismatic man, but very ruthless and which suited his role as commanding General, but as a person not so much.

His later life include victories at every battle against communist, but due to political infighting he was given a pointless command and later relocated to Taiwan to train troops.

As the war deteriorated his Taiwan command was of the utmost importance and Chang usurped his command because there were rumours the Americans offered him the Presidency of Nationalist China. He was under house arrest for the rest of his life, only freed at the death of Chiang ChingKuo, Chiang's son, and later president.

Thks for your help.

his name in Vietnamese is Tôn Lập Nhân 孫立人. This is tragedian life of most educated and talent people, not only in China.

Tôn Lập Nhân – Wikipedia tiếng Việt
 
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Even a lot of white man books give credit to General Wei Guoqing, not Võ Nguyên Giáp as instrumental in Battle of Dien Bien Phu.

What is less unknown is a lot of PLA are involved in this battle and it can only be seen in PRC sources. So I am more reluctant to cite it.

The Tragedy of the Vietnam War: A South Vietnamese Officer's Analysis - Van Nguyen Duong - Google Books

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This is what Qing Zhai (a Chinese) lied on his book, in fact VietNam local militia defeated Wie Guoqing's 'well trained' PLA easily in few weeks.

Cant trust any Chinese gen. coz they all lie and corrupted. Just look at what really happened in history and u can find out the truth.
 
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Look at you !

All your concern is the price! If the whoremaster can pay a good price ,you guys will introduce your beautiful bay to him.

And we china concern about whether we have the ability to get back what we lost before!

If our ability is not enough , we keep working hard to get the ability, not like you ,sell territory!

Shame on you !



aha , you guys are really funny.

You only concern the vistor pay or not , and do not care about they carry a gun or not !

You guys are really hospitable !



Really ?

So you guys never sell the Bay?

You are embarrassing yourself!

don't troll kid. Its for hire temporally.
Russian have to obey our law and regulation, what they could do and what they could not do shall been state in related Agreement.

But for Chinese tourists we have to control them carefully by check in at border or airport.

Recently, one old Chinese guy couple was deported because brought illegal nine dash map in to Vietnam.
 
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