Chinese Foreign Affairs News & Discussions

[Gabbar]

China wants to join Navy initiative on Indian Ocean, MEA says no need

New Delhi:


Pushing for a greater say in the Indian Ocean region, China has sounded out the Indian Navy that it wants to be inducted in some form into the 33-member Indian Ocean Naval Symposium (IONS) initiative started by India last year. But the Ministry of External Affairs has turned down the request.



It’s learnt that the Navy conveyed the Chinese interest to the MEA which promptly rebuffed the move, saying there was no justification to involve China in the Indian Ocean.



Sources said Chinese Navy officials had approached their Indian counterparts to explore ways to accommodate Beijing as either an observer or associate member ahead of Navy chief Admiral Sureesh Mehta’s ongoing week-long visit to China.



The Navy, on its part, informed the MEA and asked it to consider the informal request. But given that China’s long-term ambition is to counter Indian influence in the Indian Ocean, the MEA said there was no strategic rationale to let China be associated with IONS as it was strictly restricted to littoral states of the Indian Ocean.
While UK is part of the initiative because its still owns Diego Garcia, the US request too is pending on technical grounds even though it has bases in the region. Admiral Mehta, who is on a visit to China until April 25, was keen that he has an answer when he is in Qingdao for the international fleet review.

It is, however, learnt that India is keen on having a Naval attache posted in Beijing besides the Army attache.

 

[xukxuk]

hardly to say this but
guys face this the globle resouces are limited

 

[Gabbar]

China hits out at India's decision on naval symposium

BEIJING: India is suspicious of China’s economic growth, a new newspaper close to the Communist Party of China has said in an editorial. The paper,
Global Times, made the comment while discussing New Delhi’s reported decision to disallow China from attending this year’s Indian Ocean Naval Symposium.

India’s ministry of foreign affairs is simply afraid that China might "intervene" in its sphere of influence in the Indian Ocean, it said. New Delhi’s decision was also prompted by "India’s suspicion of China’s rise", it said.

"Many people in India, the earliest industrialized country in Asia, could not accept China’s rapid rise in the past decades. Their bruised egos made them reluctant to get more intimately acquainted with China," the newspaper said. "A lack of people-to-people exchanges between China and India has also contributed to the estrangement and mutual distrust," it said.

The paper published by the Communist Party organ, the People’s Daily, said the two countries have remained "remote neighbors" because of a border dispute and very little people to people relationship, it said. The year 2008 saw 500,000 personal trips between two nations having a total population of 2.3 billion. The number of trips is one tenth of what took place between China and South Korea, it said.

India’s distrust of China is also related to friendly relations between China and Pakistan, but China’s friendship with Pakistan is not intended to harm India.

"India and China are two Asian giants with increasing economic strength and regional influence. A friendly Sino-Indian relationship depends on efforts by the two countries. Sino-Indian trust demands more civil communication and business cooperation, as well as heightened efforts by government leaders," the paper said four days after it launch.

The paper also compared Sino-South Korea trade volume of $186 billion in 2008 to show that the $50 billion trade between China and India was very small.

 

[yh1]

China could use 093s to safe guard the sea lanes for Chinese merchant ships on Indian Ocean. 095s and the carrier wud come later.

 

[Gabbar]

China could use 093s to safe guard the sea lanes for Chinese merchant ships on Indian Ocean. 095s and the carrier wud come later.

What is 093s and 095s?

 

[yh1]

They are nuclear subs.

 

[Sambha]

hardly to say this but
guys face this the globle resouces are limited

Yeah, that's why so many countries are trying to kick your butt out of Africa.

And hopefully from Tibet too.

 

[yh1]

Yeah, that's why so many countries are trying to kick your butt out of Africa.

And hopefully from Tibet too.

I think it's just a nasty and big mouth of an Indian.

 

[Gabbar]

They are nuclear subs.

Thanks yh1!!!

 

[Gabbar]

I think it's just a nasty and big mouth of an Indian.

Dont worry they exist in every nation, not just in India.

 

[Gabbar]

New progress achieved in China-India trade, eonomic co-op

In recent years, China-India relations have been developing smoothly. When Premier Wen visited India in 2005, China and India announced the establishment of strategic cooperative partnership for peace and prosperity.
The two countries finished joint research onthe Five-year Plan of China-India Comprehensive Trade and Economic Cooperation in March 2005, and the Plan becomes a guiding document for the development of trade and economic cooperation.

The year 2006 was a year of friendship bteween China and India, and was a year of milestone in bilateral diplomatic history. The Joint Statement released by President Hu Jintao on a visit to India served as a blueprint for cooperative development in various fields henceforth.

Bilateral Trade Grows with Great Strength

China-India trade has been growing so fast in recent years that trade value has kept growing rapidly. Bilateral trade increased from 2.914 billion USD in 2000 to 18.703 billion USD in 2005, with an average annual growth of 45%. It reached 24.9 billion USD in 2006, meeting the target set by the leaders of the two countries in advance. According to China's statistic, India China's 10th biggest trade partner in 2006. And China became India's 2nd biggest trade partner in the 2005-2006 fiscal year in accordance with India's statistic.

Broad Cooperation in Contractual Projects

India has tried hard to build infrastructure in recent years. A large number of private enterprises invested heavily, planned to build a set of infrastructure like roads, bridges, railways, ports and power stations, so that a huge market of contractual projects has emerged. According to the Federation of Indian Chambers of Commerce and Industry, India needed 380 billion USD in investment in infrastructure construction in the next 6 years.

Chinese enterprises possessed great predominance in such fields and they made great progress in the Indian contractual projects market, especially in cash and owner financing projects, through years of exploration.

By the end of 2006, China signed 7.012 USD economic and technological contracts in India, with a 2.108 USD turnover. In the recent 3 years, in particular, China has been in favorable development in the contractual projects market. From 2004 to 2006, Chinese enterprises signed 5.616 USD projects in India, with a 1.792 billion USD turnover, of which contractual value reached 3.298 billion USD in 2006. India now has become one of China's most important overseas contractual project markets.

Investment Cooperation on the Upswing

Mutual investment of the two countries has just started. By the end of 2006, approved or recorded by the Ministry of Commerce, China's investment in India amounted to 17 million USD, in such fields as the electric industry, communications and light industry.

By the end of 2006, India's non-financial investment projects in China totaled 256, with a 548 million USD contractual values and 172 million USD in actual use. The investment fields involved metallurgy, electric appliances, pharmaceuticals, printing ink and textiles. Chinese enterprises such as Haier, TCL, Huawei and ZTE have set up manufacturing factories or researching institutes in India, and India's enterprises including Tata Consultancy Service Corporation and INFOSYS invested in China as well.

Frequent Bilateral Business Visits

In recent years, there have been frequent China-India bilateral trade and economic visits, so that more and more people have attended all kinds of exhibitions and expositions and the number of people who have gone on tour and business increased substantially. In 2005, people from China and India entering each other's country reached 360,000 person-times. In March 2002, China Eastern Air Company was the first to open the air route from Beijing to New Delhi via Shanghai. In addition, Air India opened an air route to Shanghai via Thailand in Nov 2003. Air China opened airline services from Beijing to New Delhi in Oct 2006 as well.

 

[aimarraul]

China-India bilateral trade in 2008 :37 B USD
China-EU：400B
China-US:333B
China-Japan:304B
China-ASEAN:231B
China-Hongkong:203B
China-south korea ：180B
China-taiwan：129B
China-Australia：60B
China-Russia:56B

so this relation is irrelevant ......for now.Future China India Relations?In my opinion，it's not gonna be better than right now......

 

[Nihat]

China-India bilateral trade in 2008 :37 B USD
China-EU：400B
China-US:333B
China-Japan:304B
China-ASEAN:231B
China-Hongkong:203B
China-south korea ：180B
China-taiwan：129B
China-Australia：60B
China-Russia:56B

so this relation is irrelevant ......for now.Future China India Relations?In my opinion，it's not gonna be better than right now......

Would it be possible for you to provide a link where you found those trade figures , especially China - Taiwan .

Not that I'm questioning your data but I've been looking out for trade valuation websites and this would be really useful.

 

[gpit]

Would it be possible for you to provide a link where you found those trade figures , especially China - Taiwan .

Not that I'm questioning your data but I've been looking out for trade valuation websites and this would be really useful.

Check this out:

Ministry of Commerce of the People's Republic of China

 

[A1Kaid]

What I find funny is...

It is the Indians most eager to have better relations with China, but it seems the Chinese are lackadaisical about bettering relations with India. The Indians are desperate for China to be their friend, they envy the strategic Sino-Pakistan defense and Geo-strategic relationship we have.

It is always the Indians posting articles about how Indian ties with China are improving, I hardly see any Chinese guys posting articles about bettering relations with India...


So I would like to read the Chinese input on what they think about India and relations with India...