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Absolutely, If the relationship between India and China goes well, for example, they solve the Tibet issue, no matter which side compromises. There is going to be a cooler time for Pakistan and China relation. Pakistan then will suffer

obviously,you don't know chinese that well as you thought,we will try to friendly to everycountry,and that's what we did over the last 60 years,but when it comes to real friend or ally,we know which one can be trust
 
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Hotline likely between Beijing and New Delhi​



NEW DELHI: Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh claimed on Tuesday that his country enjoyed excellent relations with all the members of the Shanghai Cooperation Organisation (SCO) but Chinese reports suggested that Beijing had backed a hotline between the prime ministers of the two countries, possibly to avert dangerous miscommunications between the nuclear-armed neighbours.
Attending the SCO summit in the Russian city of Yekaterinburg, in which India has an observer status, Dr Singh said the eight-year-old organisation represented a vast land mass rich in cultural diversity, creativity and resources. ‘India has the privilege of having excellent bilateral relations with each of the members of the organisation,’ he added.

‘Our relations with them go back in time. They rest on solid civilisational, cultural and economic linkages that have flourished over centuries.’

Chinese reports, however, indicated that the Indian prime minister’s meeting with President Hu Jintao on Monday night took into account the potential harm that could come from domestic rhetoric, like recent views expressed publicly by the Indian Air Force chief and a former army chief, in which they targeted Beijing as India’s main threat, and called for urgent military mobilisations.

According to the China Daily, President Hu assured Dr Singh that China had always ‘striven, steadfastly and from a strategic and long-term perspective, to promote good neighbourliness and friendly cooperation with India, an important neighbour of China and also a fast-growing emerging power.’

Indian accounts of the important meeting were not available.

Chinese reports quoted Mr Hu as saying that Beijing was ready to work with India to maintain the ‘sound momentum for development of the bilateral strategic and cooperative partnership.’

He was also for making greater efforts to implement the ‘10 strategies’ reached between the leaders of the two countries.

The reports spoke of the need to ‘enhance mutual political trust and reciprocal cooperation in various fields, take into consideration each other’s concerns and core interests, and strengthen coordination and cooperation on major international and regional issues.’

The China Daily said Mr Hu noted that the two sides should focus on the following key areas in efforts to promote bilateral ties.

The first was to strengthen high-level contacts. Accordingly, China welcomed the planned visit by Indian President Pratibha Patil to Beijing later this year. Chinese leaders are considering visiting India at a time convenient to both sides.

As part of the effort to boost high level contacts, ‘the Chinese side agreed in principle to establish a hot line between the Chinese premier and the Indian prime minister,’ the China Daily said.

Additionally, China wants to deepen bilateral economic and trade cooperation for mutual benefit. ‘The two sides should continue to tap potentials, encourage two-way investments, expand cooperation in contracted projects, and strive to realise the target of US$60 billion in bilateral trade in the year 2010.’

And finally, the two countries should work together ‘to respond to the impact of the international financial crisis. The Chinese side will strengthen communication and coordination with the Indian side, maintain close cooperation within the frameworks of BRIC, the five developing nations and the Group of 20, safeguard the common interests of the developing countries, and strive to contribute to economic recovery and development of Asia and the world at large.’

Prime Minister Singh referred to the need for economic cooperation in his comments to the SCO summit. ‘The economic gains that we have made in the past are today threatened by the global financial and economic crisis. We should convert this crisis into an opportunity for much greater economic cooperation between the Members of the SCO and India,’ he said.

Dr Singh also spoke of the need to stabilise Afghanistan. ‘The issue of stability in Afghanistan is one that is engaging all of us keenly.

I wish to congratulate the Russian Presidency of the SCO for organising a successful conference on Afghanistan in March this year.

India is committed to contributing to international efforts for the economic reconstruction of Afghanistan, and promoting stability in that country,’ he told the SCO meeting.
 
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I wish we three (IND_PAK_CHINA) can solve our border disputes early and start living peacefully.we should learn from west.If we three are together we will rise like anything.No one will be able to compete with us.
People from west will come to work in our countries.we will feed them.We will give aids to western countries.
 
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I wish we three (IND_PAK_CHINA) can solve our border disputes early and start living peacefully.we should learn from west.If we three are together we will rise like anything.No one will be able to compete with us.
People from west will come to work in our countries.we will feed them.We will give aids to western countries.

India - China is it really about Borders ? I never knew that.
 
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Chinese are busy with our own development and have our foes under our telescope. India is neither our enemy nor competitor or friend. Chinese don't have time to care about relation with India because it's not important to us.

It's India that is making China a threat or foe or competitor. So I see the relation is up to Indians to give a say.

It is as naive as stupidity....geo-political and strategic issues will keep China from ignoring India...Of course India is China's fiercest competitors with its own subtle way ..there is no real need to spew venom and spit fire like a dragon.

The statement "Indian Ocean is not India's Ocean" coming out from your country is proof enough that your Govt knows where things stand...

It is just for nothing that Hambantota and Gwadar and Sittwe are coming up....

You know what ...Oil and Gas are your strateic assets not only for your growth and development but also to maintain lead over other countries during war time..the single most important resource needed to oil the war machinery ....

You are the amongst greatest consumer and importers of Crude oil and that is something your Govt knows more than their worth....

In the wake of this safeguarding the sea lanes of communications become paramount....and you know what the Straits of Malacca...that is critical soft underbelly ....very very soft and you do not have control on that .....it will take a days effort for the Indian Navy and the AF to cut those lines and then that will be enough to put pressure on you Hans.....thanks a lot
 
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Mighty dragon in the sea

Sixty years ago, on April 23, defections from Chiang Kai-shek’s navy gave the People’s Republic of China its first naval vessels. This event was commemorated in April this year at Qingdao in an impressive display showcasing the expanding naval prowess of a nation predicted to be the largest economy in the world by about the middle of the 21st century.

Speaking on the occasion, the Chinese President, Hu Jintao, assured a world wary of his nation’s growing military power that the Chinese Navy’s objective is to safeguard “world peace”. The carefully chosen theme of the celebrations, ‘harmonious ocean’, provided the right setting. The President’s words that China’s armed forces will “never be a threat to other nations” were carefully calibrated to convey the message that none has to fear from the ‘peaceful’ rise of China.

Not many were convinced though. As the US report on the ‘Military Power of the People’s Republic of China, 2009’ states: ‘Much uncertainty surrounds China’s future course, particularly regarding how its expanding military power would be used.’

Riding high on defence budgets that have seen double-digit growth in the last two decades, the Chinese Navy has swelled to 860 vessels. Its defence budget has become the second largest after the US. With such increasing outlays that are estimated to be two to three times the official figures, the US intelligence agencies have forecasted that the Chinese Navy could grow to be the largest within a decade.

Every nation has the right to acquire weapons and platforms to protect its legitimate security interests. But there is a lack of nexus between China’s declared peaceful intentions and its deeds. The Chinese Navy lends credence to this fear by its aggressive manoeuvres at sea. In March 2009, Chinese ships and aircraft harassed the US surveillance ship Impeccable near the Hainan Island — the home of China’s new underground facilities with caves to hide submarines from prying satellites. The US had to dispatch a destroyer to escort the harassed ship. Its embassy in Beijing lodged a protest with the Chinese government. But in May, another US ship — Victorious — was harassed in the Yellow Sea by Chinese vessels.

While China may have an ostensible reason to oppose the US for supporting Taiwan, what can the growing Chinese Navy portend for India? Despite declarations of friendly ties between the two nations, there is a hidden distrust for each other. India and China have land disputes and Beijing is unrelenting in its claim of Arunachal Pradesh. The latest blocking of the Asian Development Bank’s assistance to India is yet another reminder that China would loath to miss an opportunity to oppose India.

China would not evidently countenance a competitor in India. New Delhi would, therefore, have to guard against the dragon in the water. India is critically dependent on the Sea Lines of Communication for economic growth and energy needs. India would also have to build a stronger navy to prepare for the impending competition for natural resources. Unfortunately, it may already be getting too late for India.

First, China has quietly obtained a string of naval facilities around India, called the ‘string of pearls’. These could enable the Chinese Navy to project power further away from its shores. Second, the pace at with China is augmenting its naval power doesn’t augur well for India. For instance, the phenomenal growth in submarines is worrisome. While the Chinese have commissioned more than three submarines, on an average, every year since 1995, India’s submarine level has decreased since 1999. All its submarines are old and, as the Comptroller and Auditor General of India’s report 2008 has pointed out, more than 50 per cent of them have completed 75 per cent of their operational life. Some have already outlived theirs.

Third, when China acquires multiple carriers, a plan it is pursuing diligently, it could signal a quantum jump in its capability to project power. In contrast, India’s lone aircraft carrier — INS Viraat — is on perpetual life extensions and requires upgrades to keep her afloat. India’s indigenous carrier, being built at the Cochin Shipyard, may not be available to the Navy before 2015 and the carrier, Admiral Gorshkov, from Russia, is embroiled in a price war. India needs multiple carriers. The navy should establish a dedicated yard at Cochin, the only facility in India capable of building large ships and which is ideally located, opposite to the naval base in Cochin.

The Chinese threat is for real, as Admiral Arun Prakash, former Chief of the Indian Navy said, “The Chinese Defence Minister, Liang Guanglie, has announced that a class of 4-6 Chinese aircraft carriers is on the way...It is time for India to shed her blinkers and prepare to counter PLA Navy’s impending power-play in the Indian Ocean”.

Therefore, India has to allocate more for defence, particularly for the navy, and put in place an acquisition organisation to give the armed forces the teeth they require. India cannot drift into a slumber on remixes of ‘Hindi-Chini bhai-bhai’. Having learnt a bitter lesson in 1962, it bears repeating that it would be unwise to be militarily unprepared when it comes to China.

Thomas Mathew is Deputy Director-General, Institute for Defence Studies and Analyses (IDSA), New Delhi.
 
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obviously,you don't know chinese that well as you thought,we will try to friendly to every country,and that's what we did over the last 60 years,but when it comes to real friend or ally,we know which one can be trust

It is wrong to think that if China and India form a closer relationship, Sino-Pak relation will suffer. That is wrong! Instead Sino-Pak relationship will evolve to focus more of development & cultural exchanges (i.e. less on defence), and that can only be a good thing. China will continue to support Pakistan with dealing with India so those two can settle their land disputes. When all three (or four if you include Bangladesh) cooperate then we will truly witness Asia's ascension! :cheers:
 
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It is as naive as stupidity....geo-political and strategic issues will keep China from ignoring India...Of course India is China's fiercest competitors with its own subtle way ..there is no real need to spew venom and spit fire like a dragon.

The statement "Indian Ocean is not India's Ocean" coming out from your country is proof enough that your Govt knows where things stand...

It is just for nothing that Hambantota and Gwadar and Sittwe are coming up....

You know what ...Oil and Gas are your strateic assets not only for your growth and development but also to maintain lead over other countries during war time..the single most important resource needed to oil the war machinery ....

You are the amongst greatest consumer and importers of Crude oil and that is something your Govt knows more than their worth....

In the wake of this safeguarding the sea lanes of communications become paramount....and you know what the Straits of Malacca...that is critical soft underbelly ....very very soft and you do not have control on that .....it will take a days effort for the Indian Navy and the AF to cut those lines and then that will be enough to put pressure on you Hans.....thanks a lot

:rofl::rofl::rofl: Ha ha ha. :rofl::rofl::rofl:

No China and Chinese people all over the globe do NOT see India has a major future competitor, not even a minor competitor. Get this through your thick skull: It's a one-sided obsessive fascination you guys have. Case in point, ROK as only a population of 42 million yet their economy is WAY BIGGER than yours! The day you surpass your former White Masters then we can discuss this matter at the adult table. Until then....:crazy:

Also, if you somehow manage to cut the supply line Japan and Korea will also be affected. Now do you really what to piss so many people off???
 
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Peacefull environment is liked by every religion even Hindus love to live peacefully so China which always peace lover country must enhance peacefull reletions with India!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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:rofl::rofl::rofl: Ha ha ha. :rofl::rofl::rofl:

No China and Chinese people all over the globe do NOT see India has a major future competitor, not even a minor competitor. Get this through your thick skull: It's a one-sided obsessive fascination you guys have. Case in point, ROK as only a population of 42 million yet their economy is WAY BIGGER than yours! The day you surpass your former White Masters then we can discuss this matter at the adult table. Until then....:crazy:

Also, if you somehow manage to cut the supply line Japan and Korea will also be affected. Now do you really what to piss so many people off???

No problems....you can discuss endlessly about N Korea and your own...

Who the **** does care what Chinese people think? The Global citizens say so ..India is China;s competitor..you dont like it ..but that does nt do it away ...

And anyways...your soft underbelly of the Malacca Straits is also something you need to take care of...
 
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:rofl::rofl::rofl: Ha ha ha. :rofl::rofl::rofl:

No China and Chinese people all over the globe do NOT see India has a major future competitor, not even a minor competitor. Get this through your thick skull: It's a one-sided obsessive fascination you guys have. Case in point, ROK as only a population of 42 million yet their economy is WAY BIGGER than yours! The day you surpass your former White Masters then we can discuss this matter at the adult table. Until then....:crazy:

Also, if you somehow manage to cut the supply line Japan and Korea will also be affected. Now do you really what to piss so many people off???

China and Chinese....who the **** are they? You and your Han brethren get this deep into your head....India and India alone is China's competitor though less than half of what China;s size is...

Yes we shall surpass them int he future but that does not mean that you are America's or EU's equal or even gettng there...

Get up from your wet dreams and clean your pants...
 
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:rofl::rofl::rofl: Ha ha ha. :rofl::rofl::rofl:

No China and Chinese people all over the globe do NOT see India has a major future competitor, not even a minor competitor. Get this through your thick skull: It's a one-sided obsessive fascination you guys have. Case in point, ROK as only a population of 42 million yet their economy is WAY BIGGER than yours! The day you surpass your former White Masters then we can discuss this matter at the adult table. Until then....:crazy:

Also, if you somehow manage to cut the supply line Japan and Korea will also be affected. Now do you really what to piss so many people off???

Dude globally now ppl talks about China-India not India-Pak. I know CHina is way ahead then us but still we are 2 no while talking about developing coutries.We are doing everything at our own not going to anyone else for Aid.

Mods racist comments are present in above mentioned reply.Please take a not..
 
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