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This peace award is given on political basis nothin else.

Okay then- if you suspect some fraud here from this organization, have your guy give his prize back. there are only hundreds of others attending and representing their countries. feel free to stand for a dictatorship and no free press. Your Army chief has already said last year he considering is another coup/ regime change.
 
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Nobel: China blocks foreign websites ahead of ceremony
Padlock on a computer keyboard There has been no comment from Beijing

China has blocked several foreign news websites, including the BBC and Norwegian broadcaster NRK, on the eve of the Nobel Peace Prize ceremony.

Some Nobel-related reports on CNN were also reported to be inaccessible.

A furious China has denounced the Nobel award honouring activist Liu Xiaobo - who is serving a 11-year prison term for subversion - as an "obscenity".

The Nobel Foundation has praised Mr Liu for his "long and non-violent struggle" for political reform in China.

Beijing has criticised Norway, which is hosting Friday's Nobel ceremony, and suggested that Western nations are trying to impose their values on China.

In a statement, the BBC said: "We can confirm that all BBC sites, not just news, are blocked to users in China. We are not alone. It is the same for many other sites belonging to international news organisations.

"We are disappointed that our audiences in China are denied access to our impartial and editorially independent journalism."

There has been no comment from Beijing.

BBC News - Nobel: China blocks foreign websites ahead of ceremony

My personal Opinion: The world needs to leave china alone, why do western nations try to shove their culture down china's throat. Let the people of china decide what's good for them. So far it looks like most them are fine with CPC.

As for CPC, it would serve them better if they stay calm; jumping up and down only makes matters worse for them since it seems they are threatening other countries (most countries wouldn't like that attitude).
 
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My personal Opinion: The world needs to leave china alone, why do western nations try to shove their culture down china's throat. Let the people of china decide what's good for them. So far it looks like most them are fine with CPC.

As for CPC, it would serve them better if they stay calm; jumping up and down only makes matters worse for them since it seems they are threatening other countries (most countries wouldn't like that attitude).

your personal opinions are noble, but when you have china slowing the worlds economic recovery through currency manipulation, hacking into other countries systems through state supported subversive efforts, you have china supporting the world's pariah nations, you have china disregarding climate change, you have china trying to bully smaller countries by enforcing ridiculous arbitrary borders, when you have china abetting terrorist sympathizers with nuclear and weapons technology- Then we say WHEN china learns to afford the rest of the world the same respect- the world will reciprocate.
 
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When u keep poking China what will it do it will obviously retailiate .
As one of the member already said leave china alone and Let chinese decide what is better for them or not.
 
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in the US before 1970's, black parents in the US usually tried to shield their children from white racism. when met with someone calling them a subhuman dark ape, their parents would say, they just don't understand our culture. when some KKK clan members burn a cross on their yard, the parents say, it's because they need to get to know us better. and when a black is killed by a white mob, they try to hide it from their kids, and turn off the TV when they hear the commenter praise the killers.

but the truth comes out eventually, and when it does, the children will first be angry at their parents, but will be much more angry at the white man.
 
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On that afternoon in 2003, Hong Kong looked like a scene from a zombie movie — deserted streets, empty storefronts, even a bus seemingly abandoned in an intersection. I was the only shopper on the fourth floor of the Landmark, one of Hong Kong's most fashionable malls. The shop attendants, wearing surgical masks, leaned on the glass-topped counters and stared vacantly at racks of on-sale clothes; an employee at Kenzo told me the shop was averaging two customers a day. And she was counting me as one of them.

As the SARS virus exploded in early 2003 out of southern China, infecting thousands of people and killing hundreds, it was hard at first to piece together what was happening. We journalists focused on the biological and epidemiological aspects of the outbreak — the symptoms, the number infected, the path of the epidemic, which we traced on maps with our fingers. Yet as we tried to understand, there always seemed to be an obfuscating layer: something or someone was working against comprehension.


Read more: China: Too Little Information - TimeFrames - TIME #ixzz17jhXGJdL
 
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This is my blog post on future China-India relations. As you can see, things are very bad and could destabilize even more.

China's defense strategy should be to achieve its strategic interests in 5 theaters: Northeast, East, South, South Asia and Middle East.


Northeast: Hold the Line and Counterattack

China's strategic interest in the Northeast theater is to directly threaten and put pressure on Japan's home islands and dominate the Korean peninsula against a potentially hostile South Korea. At sea, China must defend the Yellow Sea and counter any pressure from US naval presence in South Korea.

To achieve these goals, China should base large numbers of long range artillery rockets (such as WS-2D) in North Korea that can blanket Tokyo in case of a war.

It should also guarantee North Korea's security by supplying it with weapons, advisers or even direct military intervention in case of a war with the South.

It should also counter the US naval presence in South Korea with PLAN. In case of a war, remove the US naval presence by moving PLA elite armor T-99A2 into South Korea and put into power a China-friendly government.


East: Hold the Line and Counterattack

China's strategic interest in the Eastern theater is to control the East China Sea and support Ryukyu independence.

To achieve these goals, China should lease a PLAN base in Taiwan from the nationalist government if politically feasible. Of course, it cannot tolerate any move toward de jure independence by Taiwan.

It should also have an amphibious strike force of 6 071 LPD that can land about 10,000 troops and armor on the Ryukyus or even Japan's home islands.


South: Project Power and Deter

China's strategic interest in the Southern theater is to have a naval base further South in the South China Sea and eventually control access to Malacca Straits from the Eastern Side.

To achieve these goals, China should lease a PLAN base in Cambodia and build a railroad from China through Laos to Cambodia.

It should also deploy an amphibious strike force of 6 071 LPD to simultaneously evict in a quick operation the military presence of South East Asian countries on China's islands in the South China Sea.

If Vietnam tries to go nuclear, it should also quickly take down Hanoi and control the entire Vietnam coastline down to Ho Chi Ming City (Saigon). Set up a China-friendly government in Vietnam.


South Asia: With Help from Pakistan, Regime Change India

China's strategic interest in the South Asia theater is to contain, weaken, cripple and finally break apart India because it appears certain the Hindu civilization has decided to oppose the Chinese civilization in the 21st century.

To achieve these goals, China should complete the railroad into Pakistan through Kashmir. Station PLA infantry expeditionary units in Kashmir ready to overrun India positions. Station elite PLA armor T-99A2 on the plains of South Asia ready to overrun India positions. Station a giant PLAN fleet at Gwadar threatening to land combat marines on India's western coastline.

It should also complete the railroad into Nepal. Station PLA infantry on the Nepal-Indian border ready to overrun India positions.

It should also build up troops levels at mountain passes in the Eastern Sector facing India. The Indians expect to move heavy artillery on to the Himalayan plains to counter China.

If India refuses to cease its hostility to China, China should drive elite PLA armor to New Delhi, surround the city, overthrow the Indian government and install a pro-Pakistan / pro-China government in New Delhi. The map of South Asia can be redrawn to form new buffer states for Pakistan and China.

This armored drive against New Delhi should be supported by simulatenous infantry attacks in Kashmir, Sikkim and Tawang supported by J-10 air superiority and Z-10A helicopter close air support. The first major engagement of the war should be a massive Chinese cruise missile CJ-10 and EMP attack against the main strength of the Indian army defending the capital city.

Indian army nuclear missile units should be hunted down by satellite reconnaisance and H-6K strategic bomber cruise missile strikes. The Chinese ballistic missile defense system successfully tested a year ago should be fully developed and deployed in Tibet.

Simultaneous with the land war, PLAN submarines (the new Type 095 class) based from Gwadar should enforce a shipping blockade against the west coast of Southern India. PLAN submarines based from Myanmar should enforce a shipping blockade against the East coast of Southern India.


Middle East: Support Iran

China's strategic interest in the Middle East theater is to support countries opposed to US domination and persuade Middle East oil producers to sell their oil in RMB not dollars, thus fatally undermining the US dollar.

A US-led war against Iran by 2013 is very likely if a Republican president is voted in in 2012. From the recent Wikileaks episode, we can see Iran can build a basic nuclear deterrent arsenal with nuclear warhead and medium-range missile by about 2013.

To achieve these goals, China should build a railway from Xinjiang in China through Central Asia to Iran's northeast. Through this railway, supply Iran with air defence weapons like HQ-9 and coastal defense weapons like C-803 to defend against US airstrikes or naval blockade. This railway could also transport energy supplies from Iran to China if the US imposes a blockade through the Gulf of Aden.

If Iran wants a basic nuclear deterrent against Israel, China should not get in its way.

China should also form an RMB denominated oil trading bloc with Iran and persuade other Middle East countries to join. This will give China an economic advantage of having the preeminent reserve currency.
 
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I yearn for the day when china and india become friends again,and i believe that the day is near when we both will march together showing the world what peace really is,when we shall march together for a sustainable development,and i believe this idea of mine is not utopian ,its real.
 
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This is my blog post on future China-India relations. As you can see, things are very bad and could destabilize even more.

China's defense strategy should be to achieve its strategic interests in 5 theaters: Northeast, East, South, South Asia and Middle East.


Northeast: Hold the Line and Counterattack

China's strategic interest in the Northeast theater is to directly threaten and put pressure on Japan's home islands and dominate the Korean peninsula against a potentially hostile South Korea. At sea, China must defend the Yellow Sea and counter any pressure from US naval presence in South Korea.

To achieve these goals, China should base large numbers of long range artillery rockets (such as WS-2D) in North Korea that can blanket Tokyo in case of a war.

It should also guarantee North Korea's security by supplying it with weapons, advisers or even direct military intervention in case of a war with the South.

It should also counter the US naval presence in South Korea with PLAN. In case of a war, remove the US naval presence by moving PLA elite armor T-99A2 into South Korea and put into power a China-friendly government.


East: Hold the Line and Counterattack

China's strategic interest in the Eastern theater is to control the East China Sea and support Ryukyu independence.

To achieve these goals, China should lease a PLAN base in Taiwan from the nationalist government if politically feasible. Of course, it cannot tolerate any move toward de jure independence by Taiwan.

It should also have an amphibious strike force of 6 071 LPD that can land about 10,000 troops and armor on the Ryukyus or even Japan's home islands.


South: Project Power and Deter

China's strategic interest in the Southern theater is to have a naval base further South in the South China Sea and eventually control access to Malacca Straits from the Eastern Side.

To achieve these goals, China should lease a PLAN base in Cambodia and build a railroad from China through Laos to Cambodia.

It should also deploy an amphibious strike force of 6 071 LPD to simultaneously evict in a quick operation the military presence of South East Asian countries on China's islands in the South China Sea.

If Vietnam tries to go nuclear, it should also quickly take down Hanoi and control the entire Vietnam coastline down to Ho Chi Ming City (Saigon). Set up a China-friendly government in Vietnam.


South Asia: With Help from Pakistan, Regime Change India

China's strategic interest in the South Asia theater is to contain, weaken, cripple and finally break apart India because it appears certain the Hindu civilization has decided to oppose the Chinese civilization in the 21st century.

To achieve these goals, China should complete the railroad into Pakistan through Kashmir. Station PLA infantry expeditionary units in Kashmir ready to overrun India positions. Station elite PLA armor T-99A2 on the plains of South Asia ready to overrun India positions. Station a giant PLAN fleet at Gwadar threatening to land combat marines on India's western coastline.

It should also complete the railroad into Nepal. Station PLA infantry on the Nepal-Indian border ready to overrun India positions.

It should also build up troops levels at mountain passes in the Eastern Sector facing India. The Indians expect to move heavy artillery on to the Himalayan plains to counter China.

If India refuses to cease its hostility to China, China should drive elite PLA armor to New Delhi, surround the city, overthrow the Indian government and install a pro-Pakistan / pro-China government in New Delhi. The map of South Asia can be redrawn to form new buffer states for Pakistan and China.

This armored drive against New Delhi should be supported by simulatenous infantry attacks in Kashmir, Sikkim and Tawang supported by J-10 air superiority and Z-10A helicopter close air support. The first major engagement of the war should be a massive Chinese cruise missile CJ-10 and EMP attack against the main strength of the Indian army defending the capital city.

Indian army nuclear missile units should be hunted down by satellite reconnaisance and H-6K strategic bomber cruise missile strikes. The Chinese ballistic missile defense system successfully tested a year ago should be fully developed and deployed in Tibet.

Simultaneous with the land war, PLAN submarines (the new Type 095 class) based from Gwadar should enforce a shipping blockade against the west coast of Southern India. PLAN submarines based from Myanmar should enforce a shipping blockade against the East coast of Southern India.



Middle East: Support Iran

China's strategic interest in the Middle East theater is to support countries opposed to US domination and persuade Middle East oil producers to sell their oil in RMB not dollars, thus fatally undermining the US dollar.

A US-led war against Iran by 2013 is very likely if a Republican president is voted in in 2012. From the recent Wikileaks episode, we can see Iran can build a basic nuclear deterrent arsenal with nuclear warhead and medium-range missile by about 2013.

To achieve these goals, China should build a railway from Xinjiang in China through Central Asia to Iran's northeast. Through this railway, supply Iran with air defence weapons like HQ-9 and coastal defense weapons like C-803 to defend against US airstrikes or naval blockade. This railway could also transport energy supplies from Iran to China if the US imposes a blockade through the Gulf of Aden.

If Iran wants a basic nuclear deterrent against Israel, China should not get in its way.

China should also form an RMB denominated oil trading bloc with Iran and persuade other Middle East countries to join. This will give China an economic advantage of having the preeminent reserve currency.

Nice analysis to destroy India in particular and others such as Japan, S.Korea, however, knowing CCP and China well I just wanted to know were these your thoughts or CCPs? Secondly how can you destroy India by arming Pakistan as one of your generals had quoted "China will fight till last pakistani"? Can in Geo-politics and Commerce China heavily depends on US, which it can never supersede! But you missed out your real competitor ie Russia which can Nuke you to stone age any day, as they had planned earlier! Reality of Chinese economy is known to everyone who reads, so how will you do all this??
 
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LOL planning for another 1962 for India is on the cards!! :D

Someone had said History repeats itself, and when it does fools dig their own grave.....Present Indian politicians seems to be so involved in filling Swiss bank accounts that they don't give a Damn about the nation, if thats not the case then I don't see any change in the attitude of present Indian Govt. and the one in 1962 :D
 
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Nice analysis to destroy India in particular and others such as Japan, S.Korea, however, knowing CCP and China well I just wanted to know were these your thoughts or CCPs?
I think CCP is the status quo power in China and gets its legitimacy through economic achievement and national military might.

Secondly how can you destroy India by arming Pakistan as one of your generals had quoted "China will fight till last pakistani"?
I do not think Pakistan army really needs to be involved in an Indian operation. All China needs is permission to base and food / fuel supplies from Pakistan.

Can in Geo-politics and Commerce China heavily depends on US, which it can never supersede!
Historically, China has always been a huge economic power. Chinese GDP is 4 times bigger than India. China is surpassing US in total GDP in about 15 to 20 years.

As long as China can get oil from Iran through a railroad, it does not depend on challenging US in blue waters. So China does fine in both commerce and geo-politics!

But you missed out your real competitor ie Russia which can Nuke you to stone age any day, as they had planned earlier!
This is not 1963 you know. China is actually ahead of Russia on strategic arms in quality. Russia used to be the world's number 2, now China is the world's number 2. China has its JL-2 fully operational, but where is the Bulava?

Reality of Chinese economy is known to everyone who reads, so how will you do all this??
Nearly every Indian who comes to China has a surprising frown expression because they are confused how can China be so much more advanced than their imagination. Look at the difference between Beijing 2008 Olympics and Commonwealth Games 2010. Even the second-tier Guangzhou 2010 Asian Olympics was better than India. This is not a turtle and the hare problem you have here. China's comprehensive national power is at least 5 times that of India and it is growing even faster.
 
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You know what, Chinese are really seeing India through Pakistan, this
it appears certain the Hindu civilization has decided to oppose the Chinese civilization
isn't new.

I've seen on some Chinese forums people going on how the 'Chinese should arm Pakistan' as they are the 'heirs of the Mughal Empire'. Moin Ansari is more effective than we know ! (they quoted one of his blogs) !
 
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Nice analysis to destroy India in particular and others such as Japan, S.Korea, however, knowing CCP and China well I just wanted to know were these your thoughts or CCPs? Secondly how can you destroy India by arming Pakistan as one of your generals had quoted "China will fight till last pakistani"? Can in Geo-politics and Commerce China heavily depends on US, which it can never supersede! But you missed out your real competitor ie Russia which can Nuke you to stone age any day, as they had planned earlier! Reality of Chinese economy is known to everyone who reads, so how will you do all this??

China and Russia are allies now. :azn:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2001_Sino-Russian_Treaty_of_Friendship

And I wonder if India still wants to join the SCO...
 
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