Chinese Flanker Family: J-11, J-16 ... Su-27SK/UBK, Su-30MKK

[Deino]

Can anyone confirm that #11D4 had its maiden flight at the end of 2016 ?

 

[Deino]

Flanker production at SAC ...

November 2016

May 2016

October 2015

 

[WarFariX]

Flanker production at SAC ...

November 2016
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May 2016
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October 2015
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the ones on the top right of nov 2016 looks like j11d

 

[Deino]

the ones on the top right of nov 2016 looks like j11d

Why do You think so ?? For me they all look too much the same to even differ between a single seater (aka a J-11D) and a twin seater (aka a J-16) since they are currently the only versions build.

 

[Deino]

Just a strange rumour: There is a report at Twitter stating that there are rumours concerning a cancellation or the very likely abandonment of the J-11D program. Reportedly some SAC fans on CJDBY forums are really upset about this.

Allegedly the J-11D can't survive out of anti-stealth radar coverage in real battle and is more costly than the J-10C when within. Besides that for long range patrol over sea the J-16 and Su-35 are sufficient.

Does anyone know more ??

Deino

 

[Pepsi Cola]

Just a strange rumour: There is a report at Twitter stating that there are rumours concerning a cancellation or the very likely abandonment of the J-11D program. Reportedly some SAC fans on CJDBY forums are really upset about this.

Allegedly the J-11D can't survive out of anti-stealth radar coverage in real battle and is more costly than the J-10C when within. Besides that for long range patrol over sea the J-16 and Su-35 are sufficient.

Does anyone know more ??

Deino

Maybe that's also the reason why we suddenly see models of FC-31 and the Navy ship together.

 

[帅的一匹]

Just a strange rumour: There is a report at Twitter stating that there are rumours concerning a cancellation or the very likely abandonment of the J-11D program. Reportedly some SAC fans on CJDBY forums are really upset about this.

Allegedly the J-11D can't survive out of anti-stealth radar coverage in real battle and is more costly than the J-10C when within. Besides that for long range patrol over sea the J-16 and Su-35 are sufficient.

Does anyone know more ??

Deino

Very likely!

Maybe that's also the reason why we suddenly see models of FC-31 and the Navy ship together.

You mean the gesture to compensate SAC's J11D death

 

[cirr]

J-16D #2

 

[Akasa]

Just a strange rumour: There is a report at Twitter stating that there are rumours concerning a cancellation or the very likely abandonment of the J-11D program. Reportedly some SAC fans on CJDBY forums are really upset about this.

Allegedly the J-11D can't survive out of anti-stealth radar coverage in real battle and is more costly than the J-10C when within. Besides that for long range patrol over sea the J-16 and Su-35 are sufficient.

Does anyone know more ??

Deino

I saw the original rumor; the statement was that the PLAAF is seeking to purchase the J-10C/D, J-20, & J-16 in the coming year, but not the J-11D.

That doesn't necessarily mean that the j-11D has been terminated, since it is still in development (it took some 3-4 years for the J-16 to enter initial service) so the PLAAF obviously cannot buy it now. Additionally, wasn't there a rumor of a 4th J-11D prototype just two months ago?

 

[WarFariX]

is this SU-35 with J-11D ? @Deino @Beast @SinoSoldier

 

[Deino]

is this SU-35 with J-11D ? @Deino @Beast @SinoSoldier

YES ... but only a CG ! Just look at the J-11A's serial number. it's much too large, the Su-35's numbers are too round and in the second image there's an AAM just hanging under the J-11A's cockpit.

 

[WarFariX]

YES ... but only a CG ! Just look at the J-11A's serial number. it's much too large, the Su-35's numbers are too round and in the second image there's an AAM just hanging under the J-11A's cockpit.

View media item 17344sir @Deino now to complete this chart with chinese su35 , where would be put it ?

 

[Deino]

View media item 17344sir @Deino now to complete this chart with chinese su35 , where would be put it ?

Since this is an identification chart only and not one showing the lineage, I would put it here ...

 

[lcloo]

From the CG master Gaoshan, SU-35

 

[Kiss_of_the_Dragon]

I'm looking forward to see China develop a variant of J-xx with forward swept wing with SU-27 body. China need to chart the uncharted technology or technologies that other are not willing to share.