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Chinese dragon and cardsharp if you two are so desperate for friendship with india i suggest you two go to india forum. you two behaviors is annoying many chinese members and begining to offend some of our true friend the pakistani members here, please have the courtacy to behave respectfully as a guest in this forum.

Your suggestion has been noted and dismissed.

If you hate India so much, then why don't you tell Premier Wen Jiabao that he was wrong to say that China and India are partners. Do you think that Premier Wen Jiabao is wrong?

China, India not opponents but partners: Chinese Premier - People's Daily Online

(The People's Daily is the official state media, and the mouthpiece of the CCP).
 
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@ChinaRocks.... This is a forum where everyone from all nationality is free to say what they wish. Why are you pissed at them? If you have any problems stop seeing their comments or just move on. They have been giving some very valid points and connecting with a lot of Indians. If you have anything that you dont believe then argue within the forum's spirits, don't ask them what they should be doing.
 
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@ChinaRocks.... This is a forum where everyone from all nationality is free to say what they wish. Why are you pissed at them? If you have any problems stop seeing their comments or just move on. They have been giving some very valid points and connecting with a lot of Indians. If you have anything that you dont believe then argue with the forum's spirits, don't ask them what they should do.

ChinaRocks even disagrees with the CCP.

Maybe he knows something that even our own Government does not know.
 
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Your suggestion has been noted and dismissed.

If you hate India so much, then why don't you tell Premier Wen Jiabao that he was wrong to say that China and India are partners. Do you think that Premier Wen Jiabao is wrong?

China, India not opponents but partners: Chinese Premier - People's Daily Online

(The People's Daily is the official state media, and the mouthpiece of the CCP).

Please dont put words into my mouth , where did i say i hated india? come on stop behaving like a kid.
 
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I ******* don't get it.

I am a traitor to my country simply because I refuse to participate in any country bashing. What type of stupid logic is that?

The Fengqings are really getting on my nerves here.

If I am anti-Pakistani, as you all claim, why the **** did I bother painstakingly translating the articles/videos on the JF-17, J-10, and J-XX to English? Did you, challenger or ChinaRocks, bother with such translations?

If I am anti-Chinese, why the hell did I even bother to argue with anti-Chinese trolls whenever they pop up in China Defence section? Why bother?

If you guys think that blabbering about how great China is on the internet is going to improve the country it is NOT. If you are a true patriot you wouldn't be smearing your own country by acting like a bunch of uncivilized hooligans on an international forum!
 
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The Fengqings are really getting on my nerves here.

These Fenqings are really getting annoying.

Like you said, I am not "anti-anyone". I don't have any interest in bashing other countries, that is just boring and pointless to me.

What I am, is "pro-China". :tup:
 
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Please dont put words into my mouth , where did i say i hated india? come on stop behaving like a kid.

This is what you said:

Chinese dragon and cardsharp if you two are so desperate for friendship with india i suggest you two go to india forum.

This is what Premier Wen Jiabao said in the People's Daily:

"Only if China and India achieve common development and prosperity could we have a real Asia century," Wen Jiabao told Indian Minister of Commerce and Industry Anand Sharma.

The premier said his country would work with India to boost good-neighborly friendship, increase coordinations in major international issues, and expand cooperation in trade, investment and other sectors in line with the principles of mutual respect, equality and mutual benefits.

China, India not opponents but partners: Chinese Premier - People's Daily Online

Do you think Premier Wen Jiabao and the CCP are wrong to seek an increase in friendship with India?
 
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ChinaRocks:

Chinese-Dragon is not a hardcore india supporter. I frequently and seriously disagree with him on many aspects but he is right on this topic. Just because someone do not say "Nuke india off the face of the earth!" does not mean that are an india supporter.

Again what he said is true. Not being enemies doesn't mean being friends. I am not an enemy with my teachers. But I am surely not their friend. The people who win from a China-India conflict are primarily the west and not china. The west is actively trying to contain China, and is either using india as a tool, or india is helping them because their interests coincide. However, take out the West and everything in their plan falls apart, because nothing links India with the other components of the western blockade, other than the WEST. No single nation has the ability to contain China using any rational method, military or economic. But what about a group of nations? Maybe they do. Who is leading the group? Take out the leader, and the rest of the soldiers are leaderless, scattered and easy to beat.
 
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The people who win from a China-India conflict are primarily the west and not china. The west is actively trying to contain China, and is either using india as a tool, or india is helping them. However, take out the West and everything in their plan falls apart, because nothing links India with the other components of the western blockade, other than the WEST.

No single nation has the ability to contain China using any rational method, military or economic. But what about a group of nations? Maybe they do. Who is leading the group? Take out the leader, and the rest of the soldiers are leaderless, scattered and easy to beat.

Exactly right below_freezing. :tup:

Our enemies want to "contain" us, why should we help them?
 
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I ******* don't get it.

I am a traitor to my country simply because I refuse to participate in any country bashing. What type of stupid logic is that?

The Fengqings are really getting on my nerves here.

If I am anti-Pakistani, as you all claim, why the **** did I bother painstakingly translating the articles/videos on the JF-17, J-10, and J-XX to English? Did you, challenger or ChinaRocks, bother with such translations?

If I am anti-Chinese, why the hell did I even bother to argue with anti-Chinese trolls whenever they pop up in China Defence section? Why bother?

If you guys think that blabbering about how great China is on the internet is going to improve the country it is NOT. If you are a true patriot you wouldn't be smearing your own country by acting like a bunch of uncivilized hooligans on an international forum!

they have never talked about how good China is, only about how bad India is. We all know how bad India is. They are not real 愤青, real 愤青 are focused on japan and south korea (and 网特 are focused on Russia, North Korea and real patriots, but they can afford to do so since they're being paid by the CIA)。no one in china cares too much about india. period.
 
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Again you assume you know what China's India policy is.

I am not assuming anything. Simply pointing out facts which the pro-Indian apologists continue to downplay or dismiss.

The 9/11 conspiracy theory are annoying

Labels like 'conpiracy theorist' do nothing to counter the facts which have been presented and confirmed by none other than the 9/11 commission itself.

People who avoid facts and focus on labels do not do their cause any justice.

Side with Challenger if you want, but do realize you are alienating the rest of us.

I am not siding with anybody, simply pointing out the incongruence and illogic of the pro-India Chinese members on this forum.

Whatever he says about Japan is an internal Chinese matter for the Chinese members to discuss. While I admire the Japanese culture for their achievements, I also recognize the crimes committed by them in the past. Whether to forgive them or not is a decision for the Chinese.

He's very interested in ratcheting the animosity between China and India because he is afraid that without this tension, Pakistan will be at risk. I am not saying that his concerns aren't real but I resent his attempts at manipulating my opinions. (like what people say on defence.pk matters to policy)

I provide balance to the Indian propaganda on this forum by pointing out the geopolitical realities of the situation. I expect readers to exercise their own judgement and evaluate the facts based on merit, not agenda.

People are responsible for forming their own opinions, and intelligent adults will do so with being 'manipulated' either by pro-India or pro-Pakistan posts.
 
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I ******* don't get it.

I am a traitor to my country simply because I refuse to participate in any country bashing. What type of stupid logic is that?

The Fengqings are really getting on my nerves here.

If I am anti-Pakistani, as you all claim, why the **** did I bother painstakingly translating the articles/videos on the JF-17, J-10, and J-XX to English? Did you, challenger or ChinaRocks, bother with such translations?

If I am anti-Chinese, why the hell did I even bother to argue with anti-Chinese trolls whenever they pop up in China Defence section? Why bother?

If you guys think that blabbering about how great China is on the internet is going to improve the country it is NOT. If you are a true patriot you wouldn't be smearing your own country by acting like a bunch of uncivilized hooligans on an international forum!

No one is asking you three to participating in any country bashing,but keep on praising the enermy of our host is wise?
 
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I am not assuming anything. Simply pointing out facts which the pro-Indian apologists continue to downplay or dismiss.



Labels like 'conpiracy theorist' do nothing to counter the facts which have been presented and confirmed by none other than the 9/11 commission itself.

People who avoid facts and focus on labels do not do their cause any justice.



I am not siding with anybody, simply pointing out the incongruence and illogic of the pro-India Chinese members on this forum.

Whatever he says about Japan is an internal Chinese matter for the Chinese members to discuss. While I admire the Japanese culture for their achievements, I also recognize the crimes committed by them in the past. Whether to forgive them or not is a decision for the Chinese.



I provide balance to the Indian propaganda on this forum by pointing out the geopolitical realities of the situation. I expect readers to exercise their own judgement and evaluate the facts based on merit, not agenda.

People are responsible for forming their own opinions, and intelligent adults will do so with being 'manipulated'.

We already know your facts. We know India is terrible. The point here is not the facts, no one is disputing the facts, they are 100% true and no one is saying they are not. We are not siding with India. There are bigger threats. The west is not a continent away. it is actually little over 400 km away, in Okinawa State, US (they just let it pretend to be japanese). Despite India being on our border it is 1000 km away from the nearest major population center.
 
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No one is asking you three to participating in any country bashing,but keep on praising the enermy of our host is wise?

Wen Jiabao has done it, so tell me what is wrong with it?

Like below_freezing said, there are more important issues. Issues that really matter to China.
 
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The Fengqings are really getting on my nerves here.

If I am anti-Pakistani, as you all claim, why the **** did I bother painstakingly translating the articles/videos on the JF-17, J-10, and J-XX to English? Did you, challenger or ChinaRocks, bother with such translations?

If I am anti-Chinese, why the hell did I even bother to argue with anti-Chinese trolls whenever they pop up in China Defence section? Why bother?


If you guys think that blabbering about how great China is on the internet is going to improve the country it is NOT. If you are a true patriot you wouldn't be smearing your own country by acting like a bunch of uncivilized hooligans on an international forum!

Buddy, your hard work will always be appreciated. :cheers:
 
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