Chinese drones hunt Turkish drones in Libya air war

[Turan09]

LOL... Indeed false. This report is from US defense assessment about Iraq defense. How truth can it be? Its not even credible. First it claim Iraq CH-4B got maintenance problem but then it can't point out what problem is that. Iraq has ended the ISIS war. You think Iraqi still keen on full maintenance of these drone? During the height of ISIS war, Iraq CH-4B drone sorties is almost none stop, we have seen nothing but perfect score of strike and sorties from Iraq AF.

If so many problem exist. Why Saudi, UAE and Egypt still buy them? Same as Serbia. You think they are brainless and cant make correct judgement?

https://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/serbia-to-buy-chinese-uavs-452175/

Did You read all article? ''The inspector general report cited CJTF-OIR as saying the fleet of more than 10 US-made Insitu ScanEagle UAVs flew only two sorties between 1 March and 30 June because of a "combination of Iraqi training in the United States, a lapse in maintenance contracts, and problems with signal interference"
In this same report it says ''American scan eagle uavs has maintance problems, too. If this report is biased why it is criticizes american drones too? You can say this ''false!'' Thing All day but in the end of the day.
1) Jordan wants the sell brand new chinese UCAVS, they are not even a rich country.
2) Only one of 10 Chinese UCAVS is operational in Iraq.
3) PAK crashed one of your wing loong in trials And PAK officers didnt like its performance.
You cant find anything like that about Ukraine or Qatar who brought Turkish UCAVS.
Btw I dont know if you know about history of balkans but Serbia is one of biggest Turkish hater state in region after greece... they will brough a major Turkish weapon when japan brough chinese UCAVS.

 

[Beast]

Did You read all article? ''The inspector general report cited CJTF-OIR as saying the fleet of more than 10 US-made Insitu ScanEagle UAVs flew only two sorties between 1 March and 30 June because of a "combination of Iraqi training in the United States, a lapse in maintenance contracts, and problems with signal interference"
In this same report it says ''American scan eagle uavs has maintance problems, too. If this report is biased why it is criticizes american drones too? You can say this ''false!'' Thing All day but in the end of the day.
1) Jordan wants the sell brand new chinese UCAVS, they are not even a rich country.
2) Only one of 10 Chinese UCAVS is operational in Iraq.
3) PAK crashed one of your wing loong in trials And PAK officers didnt like its performance.
You cant find anything like that about Ukraine or Qatar who brought Turkish UCAVS.
Btw I dont know if you know about history of balkans but Serbia is one of biggest Turkish hater state in region after greece... they will brough a major Turkish weapon when japan brough chinese UCAVS.

Thank for pointing out the report talking about US drone also got problem with Iraq AF.

Then let me quote one of the sentence from the article...

The Lead Inspector General Report does not describe the exact maintenance issues that are now apparently plaguing Iraq's CH-4B fleet.

This article can't even describe whats the problem that plague it and then even US drone also got problem. Do you think Iraq CH-4B fleet can't fly got to do with Chinese problem? Its more like incompetent of Iraqi maintenance problem or half hearted attempt to maintain them. But I can't blame them since majority of ISIS had wiped out. Such high intensity of sortie is not needed.

Try harder to smear Chinese drone

 

[Turan09]

Thank for pointing out the report talking about US drone also got problem with Iraq AF.

Then let me quote one of the sentence from the article...

The Lead Inspector General Report does not describe the exact maintenance issues that are now apparently plaguing Iraq's CH-4B fleet.

This article can't even describe whats the problem that plague it and then even US drone also got problem. Do you think Iraq CH-4B fleet can't fly got to do with Chinese problem? Its more like incompetent of Iraqi maintenance problem or half hearted attempt to maintain them. But I can't blame them since majority of ISIS had wiped out. Such high intensity of sortie is not needed.

Try harder to smear Chinese drone

You really dont get it, do You? Iraq or jordan or Pakistan All of them experience some problems with chinese UCAVS. So what? It was Iraq's fault. It is poor jordan's fault And Pakistan's fault? You blame everyone except yourself. I am not trying to ''smear'' anything. But You just dont want to see the obvious realty.

 

[Beast]

You really dont get it, do You? Iraq or jordan or Pakistan All of them experience some problems with chinese UCAVS. So what? It was Iraq's fault. It is poor jordan's fault And Pakistan's fault? You blame everyone except yourself. I am not trying to ''smear'' anything. But You just dont want to see the obvious realty.

LOL... Just buy quoting 3 bogus example and you want finalized your judgement? Jordan need not explained. Political decision. Iraq one which your report also mention US scan eagle is also out and they can't pinpoint what maintenance problem with Chinese one. Its obvious the author is trying to use this opportunity to use a cheapshot on Chinese drone as its more a problem with operator efficiency in maintenance than drone itself.

As for Pakistan havent even order the Chinese drone yet and you are quick to throw cheapshot. Try harder.

 

[cabatli_53]

No proof and spread fake lies. Jordan put up Chinese drone for sale with the reason well-explained from my previous post above. With US pressure Jordan and give them billions dollar aid plus promise of reaper drone sale to them. They will of cos follow their US master to ditch Chinese drone. Nothing to do with quality but a political decision.

Iraq and Egypt Chinese drone problem are nothing but fabrication. Prove it with facts and link but not fantasy of your own. Chinese even just manage to close another big deal with Serbia for UCAV. While Turkey? LOL...

All respected authors and Janes like source telling the situation like what I have told- A chinos say “spreading lies, no proof”. On the other hand, You are telling the situation with an imaginary story from a politic frame- Spreading the truth ? Where is your proof to prove me/all sources/Janes wrong?

Better keep your truths for yourself. Noone has to convince you regarding why those sources share the articles which is getting upset net-warrior fanboys. What you talk is not important from international perspective because you are nothing worth to mention while reliable sources issue them. Even if you burn yourself, I keep to believe on international source instead of a chinese troll fighting for his ego.

The truth: Your costumers operating your drones are not happy with their toys.

The end !

Jordan, wants to sell this brand new drones, let say You are right And this is political, What about Iraq? Only 1 of 10 UCAV's is operational for god sake... And I dont wanna even talk about how one of wing loong's crashed during trials in Pakistan (one of pakistani guys even write that PAK didnt like it anyway because UCAV has optic problems And crash easly... is this All coincidence? Did You even heard this kind of problems about Ukraine or Qatar who posses Turkish UCAVS?
Like it or not this is the truth.

Almost all trials held in Pakistan, Turkish products wipe the chinese equivalents from the ground with performances. That is the reason Pakistan frequently outsources their military procurements from alternative suppliers, while a giant ally country like China is actively proposing all their products with lower prices than West in Pakistan. Even if Pakistan selects a chinese complete product, They seek alternative suppliers for subsystem and avionics which gives some hints about reliability of your systems.

Pakistan (one of pakistani guys even write that PAK didnt like it anyway because UCAV has optic problems And crash easly... is this All coincidence?

As far as I know Pakistan is not satisfied with their tanks tested in Pakistan. Chinese VT-4 broke down during trials in Pakistan, so Pakistan didn’t place order for them.

Did You read all article? ''The inspector general report cited CJTF-OIR as saying the fleet of more than 10 US-made Insitu ScanEagle UAVs flew only two sorties between 1 March and 30 June because of a "combination of Iraqi training in the United States, a lapse in maintenance contracts, and problems with signal interference"
In this same report it says ''American scan eagle uavs has maintance problems, too. If this report is biased why it is criticizes american drones too? You can say this ''false!'' Thing All day but in the end of the day.
1) Jordan wants the sell brand new chinese UCAVS, they are not even a rich country.
2) Only one of 10 Chinese UCAVS is operational in Iraq.
3) PAK crashed one of your wing loong in trials And PAK officers didnt like its performance.
You cant find anything like that about Ukraine or Qatar who brought Turkish UCAVS.
Btw I dont know if you know about history of balkans but Serbia is one of biggest Turkish hater state in region after greece... they will brough a major Turkish weapon when japan brough chinese UCAVS.

Add Egypt to that list since they also have some problems with chinese drones. They requested to fix them all for continuation of orders.

 

[Ansu fati]

No one wants to defame china or something like the fact is simple turkish drones are better actually egypt signed with turkey to buy anka but after the coup it was canceled uae also didn’t buy because they supported the coup attempt in turkey so it was illogical to sell them and jordan was until recently aligned with saudi and because of saudi-turkey tensions they didn’t wanted to anger other gcc states by buying turkish uav now the situation is different and probably in the near future they are gonna buy either aksungur or akinci

 

[cabatli_53]

No one wants to defame china or something like the fact is simple turkish drones are better actually egypt signed with turkey to buy anka but after the coup it was canceled uae also didn’t buy because they supported the coup attempt in turkey so it was illogical to sell them and jordan was until recently aligned with saudi and because of saudi-turkey tensions they didn’t wanted to anger other gcc states by buying turkish uav now the situation is different and probably in the near future they are gonna buy either aksungur or akinci

Chinese posters in this thread has an agenda over Turkish systems but The subject is not appropriate for them to proceed this discussion in favour of themselves (As you can see) so they started trolling. China is a giant indeed but Quality issue is the thinner backbone of a chinese to make fun with a NATO competitor in any platform since they are the king of copy/paste systems with cheaper prices at mostly isolated markets. They just believe that their systems provide equal performance but field trials held in other states point otherwise. They are just trying to fly in stormy weather with making Turkish systems a subject to overrate themselves in ME section and Turks are just putting them into the place with showing sources(requested) even if they don’t accept the given source. The summary of this thread is like that.

 

[Oublious]

Chinese drones will be destroyed when they fly lower witht that low quality flir. Our laser weapons will hunt them down...

https://twitter.com/x/status/1178369803347746819

 

[mustafa erkan]

Western arms are expensive and maintenance is much more expensive. Countries pay too much money but get low graded weapons with restrictions and there is always an embargo threat by USA or Europans.
They have option as Russia but they want others because this also gives opportunity to Russia politically and economically effect these countries.
First China then Turkey are new alternatives for this countries with new and sophisticated weapons like drones and others. In near future we will be in race with Chinese on selling arms to world countries. These Chinese aware of this as we are.

 

[Ansu fati]

Western arms are expensive and maintenance is much more expensive. Countries pay to much money but get low graded weapons with restrictions and there is always an embargo threat by USA or Europans.
They have option as Russia but they want others because this also gives opportunity to Russia politically and economically effect these countries.
First China then Turkey are new alternatives for this countries with new and sophisticated weapons like drones and others. In near future we will be in race with Chinese on selling arms to world countries. These Chinese aware of this as we are.

Well china as a superpower will always be alternative for countries that cannot get western weapons without being blackmailed and forced to pay unreasonable price but also turkey is interesting choice since produces weapons with western standards and are ready to sell to almost anyone(of course the usual suspects who hate turkey are excluded) so i think that in the future both china and turkey would be very important weapon exporters

 

[LeGenD]

lool you didn't know long ago?

So whose quest is HALAL and whose is HARAM?

 

[Dinky]

Greece Team : Greece + Egypt + Israel + Saudi Arabia + UAE + South Cyprus

Why am I not surprised the house of Saud(shaitan) is on the same team as Israel and South Cyprus. Saudi's just keep getting more evil, pathetic

 

[royalharris]

Haftar Forces now shot down how many Turkish drones? 20? 30?

Talking is easy, proving your claims not because you can‘t.

Sorry,14 reported

 

[Hexciter]

Sorry,14 reported

Reported but no one proofed, but non-Turkish made ones

 

[royalharris]

To avoid being killd,GNA dare not put the Turkish drone in the hangar , put them on the pickups moving around all days

lower speed,lower flight altitude,lower endurance, shorter leg,Smaller load

butchered by winglong as a result