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Chinese crackdown separates Pakistani husbands from Uighur wives

-- 2-3 Posts about the content of the News... 99% left... On who is Pakistani/Jew/ Chinese and Enemy etc...
-- Having a counter argument = Enemy/False Flagger etc...
-- Few doubting the "Veracity" of the article...Without giving a proper counter-News stating the opposite and yet Making their "Opinion" as the Only "Truth" Around...
-- Many make the assumption that the "Devil" side is Automatically Pakistani or Religious related...
-- And Many Putting China "behavior" in general as "Perfect" or " Something to follow"...

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Have Fun...

Ps: Just a brief Observation...no need to jump on your horses...for those giving into temptation in doing so...
 
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I don't need to read Chinese to know that Justice is done .. as its not just China's internal Problem , those women are legal wives of Pakistani men who have all the right to live with them .. if they are guilty of any wrong than surely they need to be punished but keeping a mother away from their kids ,and a wife from her Husband is lowest of low ..

No, what is low, is people who are involved in terrorism and they don't care how it hurts their own family. As if we would just let terrorists and extremists roam free.

They are the ones who did this to their family, no one else.
 
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No, what is low, is people who are involved in terrorism and they don't care how it hurts their own family. As if we would just let terrorists and extremists roam free.

They are the ones who did this to their family, no one else.

so you agree when Donald Dump says that we should bomb the families of Terrorists ? If a man is a extremist his wife or kid has not someone to be put through such things because of what he or he didn't do .. ( this is my personal Opinion ) even in my Religion Islam, if i commit a crime or sin , it will be me who will be help responsible not my wife nor my kids .. so accountability of the finest to me .
by the way bro, can you convince your Chinese Friend Beast that I am a Pakistani lol
 
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by the way bro, can you convince your Chinese Friend Beast that I am a Pakistani

Are you?

so you agree when Donald Dump says that we should bomb the families of Terrorists ? If a man is a extremist his wife or kid has not someone to be put through such things because of what he or he didn't do .. ( this is my personal Opinion ) even in my Religion Islam, if i commit a crime or sin , it will be me who will be help responsible not my wife nor my kids .. so accountability of the finest to me .
by the way bro, can you convince your Chinese Friend Beast that I am a Pakistani lol

Who is bombing who's family?

Are you saying we shouldn't arrest people for terrorism if they have families?
 
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Oh come on bro , don't be unreasonable here .. I am questioning China's way of handling the issue does not make me a Fake Pakistani .. if you or beast talk like that , it makes me wonder if you were Indians ..

Who is bombing who's family?

Are you saying we shouldn't arrest people for terrorism if they have families?

Donald Trump has said, that bombing Terrorist Families are Ok, and they even killed Civilians in a Special Force Raid in Yemen that killed even a small girl who happen to be daughter of a terrorist .. so is that Justified ?

I am not saying don't detained Terrorists , I am saying Don't Detained those women who are married to those so called Terrorist , and if they are Terrorists , means you are saying those Pakistani Men are Terrorist, have your Govt officially raised this with Pakistan ? and if yes then i would like to read that news .. if they are not Terrorists or Extremist than under what LAW these women are not allowed to Meet their husbands or Kids ? is it just because they married Muslims from Pakistan ?
 
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Oh come on bro , don't be unreasonable here .. I am questioning China's way of handling the issue does not make me a Fake Pakistani .. if you or beast talk like that , it makes me wonder if you were Indians ..



Donald Trump has said, that bombing Terrorist Families are Ok, and they even killed Civilians in a Special Force Raid in Yemen that killed even a small girl who happen to be daughter of a terrorist .. so is that Justified ?

I am not saying don't detained Terrorists , I am saying Don't Detained those women who are married to those so called Terrorist , and if they are Terrorists , means you are saying those Pakistani Men are Terrorist, have your Govt officially raised this with Pakistan ? and if yes then i would like to read that news .. if they are not Terrorists or Extremist than under what LAW these women are not allowed to Meet their husbands or Kids ? is it just because they married Muslims from Pakistan ?

Don't be unreasonable?

Who is spewing anti China propaganda here?

When did we bomb anyone's family? If they are arrested then they are suspected of being directly involved in terrorism or extremism.
 
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Don't be unreasonable?

yes , Don't be unreasonable ..
Criticizing China does not make any Pakistani a Fake Pakistani ..

Who is spewing anti China propaganda here?

I don't see anyone Spewing Hate against China here ? did you spot someone ?

When did we bomb anyone's family? If they are arrested then they are suspected of being directly involved in terrorism or extremism.

I never say China , did .. I said America did and want to do it .. would you follow the path of America ? American Detained Muslims without fair Trails , would you want to follow that Path too ? do you think its fair to detain someone without proof or any substance against him or her ? and Deny his/her right to have a fair trail ?
 
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I don't see anyone Spewing Hate against China here ? did you spot someone ?

Sure, whatever you say. Do you work for the Voice of America?

I never say China , did .. I said America did and want to do it .. would you follow the path of America ? American Detained Muslims without fair Trails , would you want to follow that Path too ? do you think its fair to detain someone without proof or any substance against him or her ? and Deny his/her right to have a fair trail ?

They will get a trial, and there is no reason to believe it will be unfair.

That is assuming this story even happened in the first place.
 
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Sure, whatever you say. Do you work for the Voice of America?

Nope, Student of M.Phil in Karachi :)

They will get a trial, and there is no reason to believe it will be unfair.

Bingo, That's what i Want and expect from China .. Fair Trail, may the guilty be charged and innocent walks free :)

That is assuming this story even happened in the first place.

Yep , that is why i keep saying , if that Story is real .. than China should Tackle it better than Americans.. if its fake , it wont last long .. ( you can read my Signature ) ..
 
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This Anti Muslim sentiment in Xi's China wont be good for China ..
Growing up I had some Muslim friends, they were always Chinese first. No Chinese in this day and age can tolerate terrorism and separatism, much less tolerance for it than say in Pakistan (I don't want to accuse but this is reality as many people have been jaded to it, so understand from our perspective). If my region of China (North East/Manchuria) had an independence movement we would be labelled as separatists and potentially terrorists. People around the country would have certain perceptions of us regardless of our personal beliefs, I can understand that perspective.

so you are saying they must be given a fair trail then ? if yes than its good .. as long as someone is not proven guilty you can arrest them or put them under watch but can't convict them without a fair trail . If China needs to counter that Propaganda than they should give those men or women a fair chance to defend their marriages .. and these are Women , if their Husbands are ( lets say ) extremist , that does not make them guilty .
As i say if this news can come out to Propagate against China then why not release the information about give them a Fair Trail ? why China is so afraid ? less then 50 women who may or may not be married to Men from Pakistan who may or may not be Extremist will not hurt China or China's govt ..
Not sure about the validity of the report but terrorism and extremism will be snubbed at its roots in China. What is your comprehensive solution to terrorism and separatism? Theorists often criticise the doers.

China respects Pakistan's local affairs. When the 2 Chinese were killed in Pakistan, did China or Chinese attack Pakistan for being extremist and demand "justice"? Every country has its own dynamic. Many Chinese accept what they did in Pakistan was stupid. In fact Chinese criticise certain Chinese's conduct in Pakistan. There was one video with a Chinese girl (TV host) who had armed Pakistani body guards and she was doing a part on bargaining at the bazaar. Chinese at home were criticising her actions because they thought she was indirectly intimidating the stall owner. In the end she got a good price, people at home thought "no duh, how could you not have gotten a low price with armed guards?". They thought it wasn't a nice gesture to bargain while protected by armed guards, even though the guards were really friendly.
https://www.reuters.com/article/pak...by-islamic-state-were-preachers-idUSKBN1931DE
As if you can read Chinese?

China is not in the mood to counter all these nonsense smearing. If there are a million propaganda against China everyday in English, Spanish , French or Arabic. Do China need to respond every of it?

Why not better spend the effort and time on making China safer and the progress of the country?
People outside of China should understand that ultimately outside voices don't matter that much inside China. Some Chinese just like to reply as a courtesy and to help other have less self induced stress from information overload.

I don't need to read Chinese to know that Justice is done .. as its not just China's internal Problem , those women are legal wives of Pakistani men who have all the right to live with them .. if they are guilty of any wrong than surely they need to be punished but keeping a mother away from their kids ,and a wife from her Husband is lowest of low ..
When people step into China they are under Chinese law. A foreign drug dealer in China would be dealt with like a Chinese drug dealer, regardless of their country of origin's laws or pleas from another nation (lesser crimes have leeway). This doesn't mean Chinese dislike people from that country, just those specific individuals and their acts.

China is giving room for west to play its games , the only way China can once again B!tch slap such propaganda is by releasing proper information ( if they did not already released it , and we didn't know about it ) .. Maybe some Chinese brother can help us find a link about this news and Govt official say .. it would be best .
as for Chinese Security and Economy both are in safe hands ..
Perhaps you are right but there is a qualitative difference between changes on the ground and sensational articles.
  1. China won't waste time with replies most of the time (99%) and unaware of such articles
  2. China doesn't really care about what other people think but won't go out of its way to harm others, just does what is necessary for its internal dynamic. No use pleasing people you cannot please.
  3. People who are emotionally affected by these articles tend to be of a certain demographic. Due to the perception they have about China they are less likely to go to China, win-win. Those who are unaffected will have a good time and happier life.
 
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Donald Trump has said, that bombing Terrorist Families are Ok, and they even killed Civilians in a Special Force Raid in Yemen that killed even a small girl who happen to be daughter of a terrorist .. so is that Justified ?

I don't believe that is justified.

But these other countries like the USA, Russia, UK, France, Pakistan, India, Saudia, Turkey, and countless others... Do they have bombs and missiles and mortars that are so accurate that they only kill terrorists and never cause any collateral damage?

China isn't dropping bombs on anyone... yet. I don't want it to come to that, but we have a right to defend ourselves like all the other countries above do. As of now we are arresting and charging these people individually, they should be happy about that.
 
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Growing up I had some Muslim friends, they were always Chinese first. No Chinese in this day and age can tolerate terrorism and separatism, much less tolerance for it than say in Pakistan (I don't want to accuse but this is reality as many people have been jaded to it, so understand from our perspective). If my region of China (North East/Manchuria) declared independence we would be labelled as separatists and potentially terrorists. People around the country would have certain perceptions of us regardless of our personal beliefs, rightfully so and I can understand that perspective.

I have no Problem if Chinese Muslims consider themselves Chinese first .. as for tolerating Terrorism and Extremism I agree , no country should do it ..Pakistan is under extremism and Terrorism because of its own mistakes and help from hostile agencies .

Not sure about the validity of the report but terrorism and extremism will be snubbed at its roots in China. What is your comprehensive solution to terrorism and separatism? Theorists often criticise the doers.

China respects Pakistan's local affairs. When ISIS killed the 2 Chinese in Pakistan, did China or Chinese attack Pakistan for being extremist and demand "justice"? Every country has its own dynamic. Many Chinese accept what they did in Pakistan was wrong.
https://www.reuters.com/article/pak...by-islamic-state-were-preachers-idUSKBN1931DE

if you read my Posts , This is what i am asking , Validity .. if its true than i believe China is handling it wrong ( my opinion ) if its false than down with the Propaganda .

My solution for Terrorism is to Exterminate them hard core Terrorists who harm innocent people should be hanged or killed in Operations . as for people who have extremist ideologies they should be put behind bars, until they get their sense back or if they are involved in any activity that incite hate or danger to other, they should be put in jail for long time .. but I don't believe that if someone commits a crime or been detained as a suspect then he/she should not be given a fair Chance , every human must have this Fair Trail chance ..

as for 2 Chinese killed in Pakistan , That was act of Terrorism .. China know that Pakistan is fighting a long war against Terror .. and any Foreigner comes to Pakistan has a certain level of threat to him/her . China has all the right to protest or ask Pakistan to increase Security .
By the way, We killed those Terrorists who murder 2 Innocent Chinese , our Forces attacked and Eliminate their Entire ISIS network in a Operation in Baluchistan .

When people step into China they are under Chinese law. A foreign drug dealer in China would be dealt with like a Chinese drug dealer, regardless of their country of origin's laws or pleas from another nation (lesser crimes have leeway). This doesn't mean Chinese dislike people from that country, just those specific individuals and their acts.

Fair enough ..

Perhaps you are right but there is a qualitative difference between changes on the ground and sensational articles.

look , if its just about China , i would say Fcuk Western Propaganda .. i don't give two hoots for their BS on Pakistan .. but this particular news relates to Pakistani's as well , so as a brotherly nation i think its Duty of both Countries to work it out ..
Chinese Members here often say, we never Treat Pakistan as a slave like US do .. we treat Pakistan as brothers and Strong Allies , and in alliances one can have such situations and even criticize each other .. China don't want to act like America where Pakistan has to believe everything they say .. Period ?

I don't believe that is justified.

See, that makes you Chinese people better than many Americans :)

But these other countries like the USA, Russia, UK, France, Pakistan, India, Saudia, Turkey, and countless others... Do they have bombs and missiles and mortars that are so accurate that they only kill terrorists and never cause any collateral damage?

Of course there are Collateral Damage, but we keep it minimum right ? we don't make a certain community feel that they are been subjected to anything wrong .. ? you would agree with me here .. bombing our own people is and will be last resort .

China isn't dropping bombs on anyone... yet. I don't want it to come to that, but we have a right to defend ourselves like all the other countries above do. As of now we are arresting and charging these people individually, they should be happy about that.

No body wants to use bombs and tanks in their own country and people but sometimes you have no Choice .. What China is doing to stop extremism is fine and working ..but my point is that such incidents if true which are highlighted and also involved a Ally nation should be tackled with care ..
 
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Stop being a Anti-Semite. Some Jews are good. Some Jews are bad. Some Jews are greedy. Mmmmmm hell some Jews are extremely altruistic. So let's not rake biogotry here. It's not @Solomon2 fault that he has been propagandized, acculturized into thinking along a one track mind.
when you find a good jew then talk.....arabs are the real semites. they jews have hijacked the holocaust as well as the world to butcher Palestinians so the have no sympathy from me....so go jump with a jew

Is that supposed to be a put-down?

Not anymore, really. Motivations vary but they all boil down to two things: many people need an outlet for seething hatred and directing such hate at Jews is perceived as safe.

to call you a jew is enough its like calling you shit.
 
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Good. These husbands are mostly mates of Haqqani network. Win win for China, USA and Pakistan. Radical Islamists marry. Produce radical babies. Solution? Separate radical husbands from wife. Even halal handjobs don't produce babies.

@Solomon2
Bro,

Are you for real?

:rofl::rofl:

On a serious note, this is why cross-border marriages should not be encouraged. They are very unstable due to external factors, if not internal ones, and the offspring face many difficulties that children of other homogenous families don't have to experience. Is it really worth the hassle?
I disagree with this.

People settled in the WEST often marry women in Pakistan and all they need to do is to fulfill the legal formalities of bringing their spouses to their respective countries. Once the couple is united, all-good.

USA is even more accomodating in this matter than any European country in-fact.
 
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