Chinese carrier: Vietnam and other neighbors response

[robinhood]

Congratulation to Vietnam, I hope Russia not gonna change the name to...what the hell how i suppose to know.

Russia wanna take back the glory as USSR did, they know VN will not be defeated by CHina, so CHina have one more problem for invasion's plan in SCS(east sea) and in ASEAN

A source close to the Russian Finance Ministry, Russia is negotiating with Vietnam on credit to buy Russian weapons.State credit scale has not been identified as "directly dependent on the number of weapons procurement, which it is currently being discussed." "One of the parties to the contract will be NPO Mashinostroenia. That role is defined for the NPO and the company is negotiating with Vietnam to provide a system Bastion. " This source also said the transfer of missiles to Vietnam can take place not earlier than in 2013-2014 by the Russian side to prepare and have added to the budget law to provide credit export to Vietnam.

DEFENSE STUDIES: Vietnam to Buy More Missiles Coast

 

[Rechoice]

We're looking forward for that moment...how many your warships we have sunk "provocatibly"?[/QUOTE

Thi Lang to be sunk first.

News page Hong Kong's Asia Times Online on 17 / 8 deducted the article of naval strategist of Australia, Mr. Phil Radford. He said that the carrier owns no help China maintain the advantage in the dispute over the South China Sea. Here are the main contents of analysis of Phil Radford:

This carrier is not a tool to resolve the current dispute, the issue of East Sea of Vietnam is the most headache problem for China. Carrier itself is diplomatic tool rather than a military machine.

China has conducted the first test for carriers Thi Lang after a long renovation. Once the aircraft is completed, it will be able to carry 40 fighter J-15 on the ship, about 20 helicopters, including anti-submarine helicopter of the Russian Ka-28 helicopter or a Chinese domestic producers.

The carrier owns and form groups of combat aircraft can strongly alter the balance of power on the East Coast. Thi Lang carrier will address the specific strategic issues, enabling China beyond the strategic direction of the sea, to protect "core interests" in the South China Sea. However, this advantage is not clear with the challenges that carriers may face with.

The presence of the carrier Thi Lang led to the emergence of mass anti-ship missiles in Southeast Asian region, there is antiship missile system K-300P ultrasonic Bastion.

According to Phil Radford, the Chinese owned carrier has accidentally created a silent concurrence to purchasing of all arms in the ASEAN region. Since China carried out reform carrier Varyag, countries in the region is beginning to move ahead to prepare countermeasures.

In addition to the fleet of six submarines of Vietnam, Thi Lang carriers will have to deal with the submarine fleet by no less complicated. Thi Lang carriers will have to confront with the Scorpene class submarines of the Royal Malaysia Navy, submarines of the Navy Singapone Archer, possibly a submarine is on the payroll of the Indonesian Navy.

But more dangerous for carriers Thi Lang from the system advanced anti-ship missiles and will use in Southeast Asia in the near future. Vietnam along with Indonesia are the two first countries outside Russia owned anti-ship missile systems, P-800 supersonic Yakhont. Supersonic anti-ship missile BrahMos is a threat too large for carriers Thi Lang.

News page in Dutch: De Volkskrant said, Vietnam is very close to owning missile BrahMos supersonic anti-ship. The purchase of anti-ship missiles which require the consent of both Russia and India. But this is not so big problem, the present relations between Vietnam and India and Russia are strategic partners in range. India has shown efforts to relieve east China's pressure in the Indian Ocean.

The sale of anti-ship missile systems, advanced to Vietnam is quite likely to happen. India has also committed to helping Vietnam to modernize the navy, to share experience to build and operate the submarine fleet. BrahMos anti-ship missile is the fastest in the world today, with the Mach-3 and a range of 300km, BrahMos is actually a deadly threat to any warship does.

Mr. Phil Radford identified even when fully formed carrier combat groups, the force is too thin to create a great advantage if a conflict occurs. Thi Lang carriers unable to operate aircraft deployed commanders and airborne early warning. This means that the aircraft carrier combat groups with limited experience in detecting threats from the skyline. It will be a big challenge for Chinese radar system to guide the production of rocket ships for HHQ-9 not intercept supersonic anti-ship missiles. This is a difficult problem for the system to intercept U.S. Aegis superior. Underwater protection systems for aircraft carriers is also not really safe, anti-submarine warfare capability of China is very limited. Communications system to coordinate between the submarine warfare and surface ships are not really good.

Even if this capacity is improved, still can not guarantee the safety of aircraft operating Thi Lang on the East Coast. A raid by missiles from the air would be a disaster for the carrier Thi Lang.

China's hard to use carrier Thi Lang on the East Coast as a tool to put pressure on the dispute on the East Coast. End of the article Phil Radford concludes "East Sea will be the most dangerous for the carriers Thi Lang."

 

[gypgypgyp]

Your military expenditure is unclear, bro. You try to Hide somthingHidden military costs common to all nations - GlobalTimes

Who care what Japanese reporter say? PRC's military budget was stated under the PRC's law. If there is transparency issue occurred, it is because your limited knowladge in interpret the law. It is not our fault.

 

[robinhood]

Who care what Japanese reporter say? PRC's military budget was stated under the PRC's law. If there is transparency issue occurred, it is because your limited knowladge in interpret the law. It is not our fault.

Hehe, US also said that bro,

Prior to that, Robert Willard, commander of US Pacific Command, said in the media that China's published defense budget is not accurate, accusing China's military spending of not being "transparent."

Hidden military costs common to all nations - GlobalTimes

If you don't care what Japan said, so stop begging for Japan ODA now. Oki ??

 

[below_freezing]

Hehe, US also said that bro,Hidden military costs common to all nations - GlobalTimes

If you don't care what Japan said, so stop begging for Japan ODA now. Oki ??

We don't beg them, they send it as protection money.

The investment in Vietnam on the other hand is more like aid.

 

[redblast]

1. we bought all kind of Radar from Russia-Ukraine to detect High and low object, so we can detect your Carrier quite easy.

2.Yakhont and Brahmos range offcialy is 290 km, but if Russia secretly help us to increase the range, so we can cover all of our EEZ (200nm = 390km ) with Yakhont and Brahmos.

3.we can manufacture Yakhont, so To damage your carrier, we just need to fire more Yakhont-Brahmos than your anti-missile quantity having in your ship. ex: if your ship have 300 anti-missile missile, so we will shoot 1000 Yakhont .That's it
Russia still allow VN to buy weapon on Credit now, bro

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1、What kind of Rador in the world can detect the target away from about 800km except the reconnaissance system based on Space ?
2、Even you upgrade its range to 10,000km,the frist thing you must do is locating accurately your target.
3、manufacture?aha,Which component of the two missiles can be make by the vietnamese military industry ?Engine?guidance radar? Do you know which heavy or high technology weapons can be made by your poor military industry ? The North korea's military industry is far more advanced than vietnamese.
4、The warfare is the strategy of bilateral war system include almost everything of two countries .To win the war,it's impossible only by single or two advanced weapons and crowded warm blood guys.

 

[Nestea]

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1、What kind of Rador in the world can detect the target away from about 800km except the reconnaissance system based on Space ?
2、Even you upgrade its range to 10,000km,the frist thing you must do is locating accurately your target.
3、manufacture?aha,Which component of the two missiles can be make by the vietnamese military industry ?Engine?guidance radar? Do you know which heavy or high technology weapons can be made by your poor military industry ? The North korea's military industry is far more advanced than vietnamese.
4、The warfare is the strategy of bilateral war system include almost everything of two countries .To win the war,it's impossible only by single or two advanced weapons and crowded warm blood guys.

I advise you not to tell him any of the facts and logic, he is a great spirit of Ah Q! Any matter in his opinion is very easy to realize, of course, Using his mouth to realize!

 

[robinhood]

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1、What kind of Rador in the world can detect the target away from about 800km except the reconnaissance system based on Space ?
2、Even you upgrade its range to 10,000km,the frist thing you must do is locating accurately your target.
3、manufacture?aha,Which component of the two missiles can be make by the vietnamese military industry ?Engine?guidance radar? Do you know which heavy or high technology weapons can be made by your poor military industry ? The North korea's military industry is far more advanced than vietnamese.
4、The warfare is the strategy of bilateral war system include almost everything of two countries .To win the war,it's impossible only by single or two advanced weapons and crowded warm blood guys.

1,2. Our EEZ is only 200nm(390 km), we don't care about your ship if they're Not Violationg our EEZ.

3.We have license from RUssia to manufacture completely all parts ofYakhont. or we can buy 1000 Yakhont on Credit from Russia, we will have enough Yakhont for your carrier , bro

4. CHina's weapon can not compare with Russia's weapon, and your COmbat tactic is bad also.CHina have No real experience about operating the combination of artillery and attack aviation creates a synergistic effect, so you can understand why your govt. can not wage a war with us now.

We don't beg them, they send it as protection money.

The investment in Vietnam on the other hand is more like aid.

Oh, so you protect Japan Yasukuni shrine also , right ??Good, very good , you love Japan so much

 

[ColReg]

Small neighbors of China can provide one of their ports to USA after that China cant even dare to look they with wrong intention

 

[robinhood]

Small neighbors of China can provide one of their ports to USA after that China cant even dare to look they with wrong intention

You means Cam Ranh port ??yEP, THIS PORT is very important, you can control the whole ASEAN from it, and it's USA most favorite port during VN war.

During the United States' Vietnam War, the city held a major US air base, and Da Nang Port facilities were expanded by the Americans

World Port Source - Da Nang Port

But Russia seems interesting that prot again also.

Cam Ranh Bay
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Location of Cam Ranh Bay in southern Vietnam

Cam Ranh Bay (Vietnamese: Vịnh Cam Ranh) is a deep-water bay in Vietnam in the province of Khánh Hòa. It is located at an inlet of the South China Sea situated on the southeastern coast of Vietnam, between Phan Rang and Nha Trang, approximately 290 kilometers / 180 miles northeast of Hồ Chí Minh City / Saigon.

http://www.sv-galena.com/BackWhen/AirForce/RVN/RVNMap.jpg

 

[redblast]

1,2. Our EEZ is only 200nm(390 km), we don't care about your ship if they're Not Violationg our EEZ.

3.We have license from RUssia to manufacture completely all parts ofYakhont. or we can buy 1000 Yakhont on Credit from Russia, we will have enough Yakhont for your carrier , bro

4. CHina's weapon can not compare with Russia's weapon, and your COmbat tactic is bad also.CHina have No real experience about operating the combination of artillery and attack aviation creates a synergistic effect, so you can understand why your govt. can not wage a war with us now.
Oh, so you protect Japan Yasukuni shrine also , right ??Good, very good , you love Japan so much

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1、In war,no any EEZ.And are you a idiocy?The aircraft carrier can attrack the you away from 800km where you can't locate it.Do u know what is the non-contact war?
2、I belive that the great vietnamese can manufacture the destroy-star ship to conquer the universe if the ET give them only a license. aha,they can manufacture everything if have its license. In fact,the poor vietnamese basic industries can't make a missile's shell !
3、Plz google some news or vedeo about the PLA's war game and compare with the unbeatable VPA.
4、I wish every vietnamese has the same opinion to you especially the high-ranking officials in GOV and armed forces.

 

[robinhood]

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1、In war,no any EEZ.And are you a idiocy?The aircraft carrier can attrack the you away from 800km where you can't locate it.Do u know what is the non-contact war?
2、I belive that the great vietnamese can manufacture the destroy-star ship to conquer the universe if the ET give them only a license. aha,they can manufacture everything if have its license. In fact,the poor vietnamese basic industries can't make a missile's shell !
3、Plz google some news or vedeo about the PLA's war game and compare with the unbeatable VPA.
4、I wish every vietnamese has the same opinion to you especially the high-ranking officials in GOV and armed forces.

1.SO why must we have a war if you don't violate our teritories ??

2. We will have enough Russia weapon for all of your ships, it's not big problem, Oki

3. We don't care about your Video, the Truth is you don't have Real experience in Real Mordern wafare, but we have a lots during Vn war- the beginning of Mordern wafare (USA already used AEWc craft, Jammer etc..)

4.hehe, so wish all CHina high-ranking officials have same opinion like you, not like Mr. Yin.

The program is hosted by Lu Jian and attended by Yin Zhuo, CCTV contributing commentator and military expert with rear admiral rank
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[below_freezing]

If you block the Malacca, we can take over Hanoi with our ground forces until you stop.

 

[robinhood]

If you block the Malacca, we can take over Hanoi with our ground forces until you stop.

We won't block it if you don't wage a war first.It's the last plan(commit suicide, both die) for VN only,

1. USA try to destroyed Ha Noi also, but they lost.

2. You lost in 1979 war, you could not break our defence line with the main forces was Militia and border guard.

It's not easy to take Ha Noi,Russia seems don't like this idea bro

 

[Kiss_of_the_Dragon]

Thi Lang to be sunk first.[/B]

News page Hong Kong's Asia Times Online on 17 / 8 deducted the article of naval strategist of Australia, Mr. Phil Radford. He said that the carrier owns no help China maintain the advantage in the dispute over the South China Sea. Here are the main contents of analysis of Phil Radford:

...the carriers Thi Lang."

If we Chineses are so cowards, we won't build an aircraft carrier, if the carrier got hit and sunk...so be it, that's war. ask yourself if Vietnam boats will get close enough to Chinese future aircraft battle group?...we will certainly sink all vietnam boats before its leave seaport.