Chinese Airforce Activities in South China Sea Revealed [Translated]

[S10]

These statements were made by pupu (former military liason to Pakistan and AVIC I) yesterday. Everything below is translation, so don't quote it as my words.

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"嘿嘿！不用到处打听，去新华社军分社随便找个干活的问一下，他们的记者刚刚结束对空2S的专访。

而且我还可以提醒一下，从当年参加利剑-10行动，再到2008年9月以后，广空每隔一段时间就会组织由11、10等主战机型组成的战役巡航机群在空中加油机和电子战飞机的支援下到西沙和南沙附近转悠，越南空军的什么升龙、九龙师连他妈个影子都不敢现！"

Don't have to go look. Just ask around Xinhua reporters since they just finish reporting on PLA 2nd Air Division. I can also say that since September of 2008, planes from Guangzhou military region regularly send large joint J-10/J-11 patrols to Xisha (Paracel) and Nansha (Spartly), supported by aerial refulling and electronic warfare aircrafts. Vietnamese side made no attempts to challenge such patrols.

"我还可以告诉你们一个我刚刚得到的消息，越南猪猡们这次找到俄武公司，要求提升其苏系战斗机和俄制防空系统的电子对抗能力，使之能够抗击中国空军的电子战，俄方给他们开出了一个天文数字，越南人现在又打算去找阿三帮忙了。

这里就说一句，就现在中国空军的电子战能力和战术打击能力，就是俄罗斯空军自己都跟不上，还帮他妈越南搞？！至于阿三……哼！"

I can also tell you something I've just heard. Vietnamese went to Russians for help to upgrade the electronic countermeasure system on their planes and SAMs, so they can at least offer some resistance to our electronic warfare. Russians threw out a huge price tag which they could not afford, so they went to get help from Indians. At current stage, not even Russians could catch up with us in electronic warfare capability. As for Indians....heh (Clearly doesn't think highly of IA)!

"YY的是你，空军组织大机群远赴西沙和南沙巡航，CCTV都不知道报过多少次了，也就你这种人视而不见。至于什么隔三差五锁定越南军机，你倒是把我这话给找出来！自己心态阴暗，看到点阳光自然受不鸟，这也是人之常情。告诉你，我们的机群过西沙、南沙的时候是不可能锁定越南军机的，因为他们的飞机根本就不敢过来！

至于用渔船和海监收拾越南人，那是斗争方式和方法！既然日本人可以用海上保安厅来拦截我们去钓鱼岛的船只，我们为什么不可以动用准军事力量？在南沙的争夺斗争上，我们是差了一步，但那并不表示我们今天就会无动于衷。还可以告诉你，我们的海监和渔政之所以敢在那里招摇，就是因为不远处有我们海军的军舰保驾护航。"

People say PLA does nothing to check Vietnam in South China Sea, which is untrue. We patrol South China Sea in large air groups, even CCTV reported many times. Vietnamese have never made any attempts to intercept, therefore stories about us locking on to their planes are false. They would not dare to come close.

Our current policy of ultilizing civilian enforcement agencies against Vietnamese is the right method. If Japan can intercept our fishermen with their coast guard, there is nothing to stop us from using the same method. However, our patrols are never far from our naval assets.

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Since there are quite a few people in China that say the government was appeasing the Vietnamese, this should clear up any misconceptions. China is increasing its presence and enforcing its claims, not backing down.

 

[rcrmj]

strenth talks, not loud month shouting about 'facts' especially thos vietcon propaganda

 

[Viva_Viet]

People say PLA does nothing to check Vietnam in South China Sea, which is untrue. We patrol South China Sea in large air groups, even CCTV reported many times. Vietnamese have never made any attempts to intercept, therefore stories about us locking on to their planes are false. They would not dare to come close.

Yep, we know about that, but your air force don't have drill like dropping boom, so it's acceptable

If you don't train how to drop boom in Spratly, you may kill your own soldiers , like US. boomed English guys in Apganistan

China Air patroling is Ok, coz CHina AF is superior, but pls look at US AF during Vietnam war

 

[Dragon Emperor]

Yep, we know about that, but your air force don't have drill like dropping boom, so it's acceptable

If you don't train how to drop boom in Spratly, you may kill your own soldiers , like US. boomed English guys in Apganistan

China Air patroling is Ok, coz CHina AF is superior, but pls look at US AF during Vietnam war

China drops bombs good enough they are laser, satelite, optical, TV, and radar-guided. Better than the Vietnamese Air Force, which fly less hours on their Sukhois than PLAAF.

 

[rcrmj]

Yep, we know about that, but your air force don't have drill like dropping boom, so it's acceptable

If you don't train how to drop boom in Spratly, you may kill your own soldiers , like US. boomed English guys in Apganistan

China Air patroling is Ok, coz CHina AF is superior, but pls look at US AF during Vietnam war

then dont complain when we caut few cables around these area

 

[Viva_Viet]

then dont complain when we caut few cables around these area

Oh, we don't wanna complain for that cheap game, but base on International rules, if we don't complain, that means the territory will be your, so we have to say some thing.

China drops bombs good enough they are laser, satelite, optical, TV, and radar-guided. Better than the Vietnamese Air Force, which fly less hours on their Sukhois than PLAAF.

our pilots training hours were less than US.pilot, but they still shot dow B-52 when surrounding with full of F4-phan tom. Your pilots never achiever that master skill

As we've known your trainning is only air-oil supply, and that kind of air scarf called: oil tanker air craft ?? that craft is worse than B-52, so we can shoot her dow even by Mig-21, and all of your J-craft will be droped to the Ocean

 

[rcrmj]

Oh, we don't wanna complain for that cheap game, but base on International rules, if we don't complain, that means the territory will be your, so we have to say some thing.:

you mean the international rules writen by vietcons?

our pilots training hours were less than US.pilot, but they still shot dow B-52 when surrounding with full of F4-phan tom. Your pilots never achiever that master skill

As we've known your trainning is only air-oil supply, and that kind of air scarf called: oil tanker air craft ?? that craft is worse than B-52, so we can shoot her dow even by Mig-21, and all of your J-craft will be droped to the Ocean

lol the length that vietcon went through to systematically make their people extreemly naive is astonishing``you all sound like primary amertures`

in 70s air bombardmends were conducted only few kilometers around the target area, but in modern air percision strikes (which is a very long distance dream to viet air force) are carrying out 50+ miles away. wond vietcon have anything cant even look that far``lol

and air refeulling high tech capability is for big air forces and is way out vietcon's comprehension, chinese fighters are refeuled 500+ miles away from viet coast lines, do you even have any jets have that kind of combat radius? lol``even you your vietcon carried out a suicide mission to intercept chinese attacking aircrafts, do you even have any AWACs or long range guiding radar and C4SI systems to manage such missions? basically your stone age glying gadgets are going to be headless flies waiting to be shot`

 

[Viva_Viet]

you mean the international rules writen by vietcons?



lol the length that vietcon went through to systematically make their people extreemly naive is astonishing``you all sound like primary amertures`

in 70s air bombardmends were conducted only few kilometers around the target area, but in modern air percision strikes (which is a very long distance dream to viet air force) are carrying out 50+ miles away. wond vietcon have anything cant even look that far``lol

and air refeulling high tech capability is for big air forces and is way out vietcon's comprehension, chinese fighters are refeuled 500+ miles away from viet coast lines, do you even have any jets have that kind of combat radius? lol``even you your vietcon carried out a suicide mission to intercept chinese attacking aircrafts, do you even have any AWACs or long range guiding radar and C4SI systems to manage such missions? basically your stone age glying gadgets are going to be headless flies waiting to be shot`

1. It's the international rules, if we don't say some thing,and the third country like US. accept you, that means this territory belong to CHina.

2.in modern air percision strikes, US. still boomed English guys, China still really amateurs

500+ miles away from viet coast lines ??oh, it's in Su-30 MK2 and S-300 range

 

[rcrmj]

1. It's the international rules, if we don't say some thing,and the third country like US. accept you, that means this territory belong to CHina.

2.in modern air percision strikes, US. still boomed English guys, China still really amateurs

500+ miles away from viet coast lines ??oh, it's in Su-30 and S-300 range

kido, US knows very well who is more important to its future, a buttomless market China, or ungraceful vietcon``

friendly attact occurs in every single combat, the ratio is less than 0.1% yet, ignorant and brainwashed vietcon citizens like to use those idiodic arguments for to suit their '0' knowledge based 'assumptions'

and when it comes to defense matter you lot become even more stupid. S-300 shooting 500+ miles (800+KM) targets? lol``does your a$$hole bigger than your brain? ``

and your Su-30's maximum combat radius is around 1300KM, and please use your smaller brain to read it carefully 'maximum' which means every flight factors have to reach optimum level, like High-Low-High, High-High-High, Low-Low-High or Low-Low-Low, and load, speed, weapons and etc`

so basically in order to acheive the 'maximum' your Su-30 has to fly High-Low-High with lest weapons and flying with slower cruising speed and very high altitude.... but this is an interception mission against much superior forces, numerical, technological, electronical or professionism``

so the only opportunity to slip through Chinese AWACs and AW land based radars is to adopt the Low-Low-Low, sea level skimming flight which is much stealther flying mod (this is classic tactics used by USAAF on any important tasks) but this well reduce Su-30's maximum radius dramatically to less than 500KM, unless as i said before, your vietcon put up another brainwashing compainge to force your poor pilots to die for the 'glorious' party`

even by all the luck your Su-30 elephent size (radar signiture) reached to 700+km disstance, which put ur pilot into a position where their enemy knows your every single movement, but you have no idea where are they, simply you dont have any radars can detect that range let alone to track and guide your own plane```

so i'm doing a bit basic free education to you, hope you can digest`

 

[Viva_Viet]

kido, US knows very well who is more important to its future, a buttomless market China, or ungraceful vietcon

1. Yep, Chian is more important, but if you're so powerful, you will threaten Australia and then threaten US. when you can control VN and that means you can control the whole ASEAN.So, for the worst thing ( if happended ) they only let you can control North VN only like before 1975.

btw: it's still so far for the worst with CHina's power now

2.sorry bro, I'm talking about Su-30MK2 and maximum combat radius is 3,000 km , your Oil tanker aircraft have no way to run

Su-30 MK2 có thể đạt tới vận tốc cực đại 2.600 km/giờ với tầm hoạt động 3.000 km.

SU 30KM2 , max speed 2.600 km/hour, maximum combat radius is 3,000 km
Phi

and when it comes to defense matter you lot become even more stupid. S-300 shooting 500+ miles (800+KM) targets? lol``does your a$$hole bigger than your brain?

We can modify the S-300.During Vn war, B-52 was out of SAM's range, but we could modify the SAM and then shot dow B-52

 

[Rechoice]

Talking is easy. Fighting is totally sanders thing. Pls think about that 1972 in Vietnam war time, we shoot down B-52 with SAM 2 (DVINA)
Vietnam Air-defense force to day use SAM 3 (VOLGA), just updated recently. I don't need to mention another system maned PECHORA is available to fire.
Better way, think about how to keep peace, and keep face of China.

 

[rcrmj]

1. Yep, Chian is more important, but if you're so powerful, you will threaten Australia and then threaten US. when you can control VN and that means you can control the whole ASEAN.So, for the worst thing ( if happended ) they only let you can control North VN only like before 1975.

btw: it's still so far for the worst with CHina's power now

2.sorry bro, I'm talking about Su-30MK2 and maximum combat radius is 3,000 km , your Oil tanker aircraft have no way to run

SU 30KM2 , max speed 2.600 km/hour, maximum combat radius is 3,000 km
Phi

We can modify the S-300.During Vn war, B-52 was out of SAM's range, but we could modify the SAM and then shot dow B-52

omg god I'm speechless```this clearly shows my assumption of how ignorant and naive vietnamese are very correct, there is no single jet fighter has a combat radius over 3000KM, unless assisted by alians`and the funny part is that you dont even know the difference between combat radius and ferry range (3000km is ferry range)``lol``yet keeping putting not even amerture but nonsencial stuffs on PDF a defence forum`

and you are talking about modify a 100+km range missile to over 800+km``lol, can vietnam even make a reliable assault rifle? let alone modifying a missile defence system which is way out of you country's technological capability```it took US 15 years to upgrade SM missile to SM-6 which has over 200KM and you believe with backward vietnam can do better than that? lol again another vivid evidence of vietcon's systematic brainwashing project`
and during vn war, the russians and chinese helped you to modify SAMs not vietcons`

and do you even read post`? in modern air combat (not your stone age viet dog fight), to shoot down a plane is a collective work of a holistic system of intellegence, radar detection, radar guidance, command,controll, BVRAAM and electronic warfare, vietcon has none of those subsystems``but only few poorly maintained Su-27/30s``if you dont know where the ennemies are how are you going to shoot them down? like the way vietcon did in vn war spraying AKs in the jungle hoped hit some poor unlucky guys?

 

[rcrmj]

Talking is easy. Fighting is totally sanders thing. Pls think about that 1972 in Vietnam war time, we shoot down B-52 with SAM 2 (DVINA)
Vietnam Air-defense force to day use SAM 3 (VOLGA), just updated recently. I don't need to mention another system maned PECHORA is available to fire.
Better way, think about how to keep peace, and keep face of China.

read my post above then you will get an idea why vn could shoot down B-52 in 70s```unless you still believe modern combat still condcuting the way more than 40 years ago``maybe in vn's case.

 

[Yukihime]

kido, US knows very well who is more important to its future, a buttomless market China, or ungraceful vietcon``

friendly attact occurs in every single combat, the ratio is less than 0.1% yet, ignorant and brainwashed vietcon citizens like to use those idiodic arguments for to suit their '0' knowledge based 'assumptions'

and when it comes to defense matter you lot become even more stupid. S-300 shooting 500 miles (800 KM) targets? lol``does your a$$hole bigger than your brain? ``

and your Su-30's maximum combat radius is around 1300KM, and please use your smaller brain to read it carefully 'maximum' which means every flight factors have to reach optimum level, like High-Low-High, High-High-High, Low-Low-High or Low-Low-Low, and load, speed, weapons and etc`

so basically in order to acheive the 'maximum' your Su-30 has to fly High-Low-High with lest weapons and flying with slower cruising speed and very high altitude.... but this is an interception mission against much superior forces, numerical, technological, electronical or professionism``

so the only opportunity to slip through Chinese AWACs and AW land based radars is to adopt the Low-Low-Low, sea level skimming flight which is much stealther flying mod (this is classic tactics used by USAAF on any important tasks) but this well reduce Su-30's maximum radius dramatically to less than 500KM, unless as i said before, your vietcon put up another brainwashing compainge to force your poor pilots to die for the 'glorious' party`

even by all the luck your Su-30 elephent size (radar signiture) reached to 700 km disstance, which put ur pilot into a position where their enemy knows your every single movement, but you have no idea where are they, simply you dont have any radars can detect that range let alone to track and guide your own plane```

so i'm doing a bit basic free education to you, hope you can digest`

Hoh i hate full quote but since it leads me here...
Dude save ur effort, as to much of the intels from inside, we dont need to transport it everywhere especially places out of sync...

 

[rcrmj]

Hoh i hate full quote but since it leads me here...
Dude save ur effort, as to much of the intels from inside, we dont need to transport it everywhere especially places out of sync...

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