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That RSF guys seems to know a lot about the Chinese military. I've followed his comments and it seems that he kept up with his homework regarding the latest developments.
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Veteran pilots retire with honors - People's Daily Online June 22, 2011
Sun Shengjun (L), a newly-retired pilot examines a parked-up plane during a work handover with a young soldier at a military airport near Chinas South Sea on June 21, 2011. A total of five veteran pilots, who had each served 30 years in the air force earning at least second-rate honors, were honored with a ceremony upon their retirement.. (Xinhua Photo)
Jia Yueneng (L), conducts a work handover with a young soldier at a military airport near Chinas South Sea on June 21, 2011.(Xinhua Photo)
Five newly-retired air force servicemen salute their coworkers at a military airport near China's South Sea on June 21, 2011.(Xinhua Photo)
Five newly-retired air force servicemen hand their flight helmets over to young pilots at a ceremony at a military airport near China's South Sea on June 21, 2011.(Xinhua Photo)
Sun Shengjun (L), a newly-retired pilot examines a parked-up plane during a work handover with a young soldier at a military airport near Chinas South Sea on June 21, 2011. A total of five veteran pilots, who had each served 30 years in the air force earning at least second-rate honors, were honored with a ceremony upon their retirement.. (Xinhua Photo)
Jia Yueneng (L), conducts a work handover with a young soldier at a military airport near Chinas South Sea on June 21, 2011.(Xinhua Photo)
Five newly-retired air force servicemen salute their coworkers at a military airport near China's South Sea on June 21, 2011.(Xinhua Photo)
Five newly-retired air force servicemen hand their flight helmets over to young pilots at a ceremony at a military airport near China's South Sea on June 21, 2011.(Xinhua Photo)
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An update on the L-15 Program.
Hopefully this new L-15 production line would address some of the questions regarding the L-15 Advanced Jet Trainer (AJT) program.
News release from yesterday (here)
中航工业L-15总装脉动生产线即将开工建设 2011-06-20 15:22:42 | 来源：中国航空报
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本报讯　经过前期紧张筹备，中航工业洪都L15飞机总装脉动生产线将于7月开工建设，并将应用 到L15飞机 小批生产中。作为2011年洪都制造技术振兴工程重点任务之一， L15飞机总装脉动生产线可进一步提升产品质量，改进公司的生产管理模式，全面提升洪都的飞机制造管 理水平 。
L15总装脉动生产线，改变了传统飞机装配模式，借鉴了航空工业内先进高效的流水线作业方式，使飞机 以固有 的节拍移动，操作人员则在固定区域进行装配作业。通过对现有生产资源的合理规划和整合，它可以 有效地提高飞 机总装装配效率、改善产品装配质量，并能降低工人劳动强度、改善装配现场操作环境，实现飞机低 成本、高质量 和快速响应制造。
该生产线建设方案已于5月通过评审。目前，各项组织、管理、建设工作正在紧张筹备之中，该线的 运行可以实现 “下游”装配车间带动“上游”零件生产、原材料等供应部门有效的组织生产，使制造过程中出现的“ 瓶颈”问题 显性化。洪都公司通过该生产线建设，可以提高装配效率，提高产能，提升批生产和保障产品装配工 艺的可靠性， 实现产品配送模式、装配过程的信息化。 （余珍如）
Google translation of the above article (sorry for being so laze today)
AVIC pulse of L-15 assembly production line to be started soon 2011-06-20 15:22:42 | Source: China Aviation News
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WASHINGTON After intense preparations early, the aircraft industry Hongdu L15 aircraft assembly pulse line will start construction in July, and will be applied to small batch production of the aircraft L15. Honduras in 2011 as a manufacturing technology key tasks of the revitalization projects, L15 aircraft assembly pulse line further enhance product quality, improve the company's production management to raise the overall level of Honduras aircraft manufacturing management.
L15 pulse production line assembly, aircraft assembly to change the traditional model, borrowed from the aviation industry within the advanced and efficient assembly line practices, the inherent rhythm to the aircraft movement, the operator in the fixed area for assembly operations. Existing resources through rational planning and production integration, it can effectively improve the efficiency of aircraft assembly assembly, to improve the quality of product assembly, and can reduce labor intensity and improve the assembly site operating environment of aircraft low-cost, high quality and fast response manufacturing.
The production line construction program was accredited in May. Currently, the organization, management, construction work is being in preparation, the operation of the line can be achieved "downstream" assembly workshop led "upstream" production parts, raw materials supply sector and effective organization of production, the manufacturing process of the " bottleneck "problem of dominance. Honduras through the production line, can improve assembly efficiency, increase capacity, improve batch production and assembly processes to ensure product reliability, and product delivery mode, the assembly process information
link;
China Defense Blog: An update on the L-15 Program.
Hopefully this new L-15 production line would address some of the questions regarding the L-15 Advanced Jet Trainer (AJT) program.
News release from yesterday (here)
中航工业L-15总装脉动生产线即将开工建设 2011-06-20 15:22:42 | 来源：中国航空报
Öк½¹¤ÒµL-15×Ü×°Âö¶¯Éú²úÏß¼´½«¿ª¹¤½¨Éè_¶¯Ì¬_º½¿ÕÍø
本报讯　经过前期紧张筹备，中航工业洪都L15飞机总装脉动生产线将于7月开工建设，并将应用 到L15飞机 小批生产中。作为2011年洪都制造技术振兴工程重点任务之一， L15飞机总装脉动生产线可进一步提升产品质量，改进公司的生产管理模式，全面提升洪都的飞机制造管 理水平 。
L15总装脉动生产线，改变了传统飞机装配模式，借鉴了航空工业内先进高效的流水线作业方式，使飞机 以固有 的节拍移动，操作人员则在固定区域进行装配作业。通过对现有生产资源的合理规划和整合，它可以 有效地提高飞 机总装装配效率、改善产品装配质量，并能降低工人劳动强度、改善装配现场操作环境，实现飞机低 成本、高质量 和快速响应制造。
该生产线建设方案已于5月通过评审。目前，各项组织、管理、建设工作正在紧张筹备之中，该线的 运行可以实现 “下游”装配车间带动“上游”零件生产、原材料等供应部门有效的组织生产，使制造过程中出现的“ 瓶颈”问题 显性化。洪都公司通过该生产线建设，可以提高装配效率，提高产能，提升批生产和保障产品装配工 艺的可靠性， 实现产品配送模式、装配过程的信息化。 （余珍如）
Google translation of the above article (sorry for being so laze today)
AVIC pulse of L-15 assembly production line to be started soon 2011-06-20 15:22:42 | Source: China Aviation News
Öк½¹¤ÒµL-15×Ü×°Âö¶¯Éú²úÏß¼´½«¿ª¹¤½¨Éè_¶¯Ì¬_º½¿ÕÍø
WASHINGTON After intense preparations early, the aircraft industry Hongdu L15 aircraft assembly pulse line will start construction in July, and will be applied to small batch production of the aircraft L15. Honduras in 2011 as a manufacturing technology key tasks of the revitalization projects, L15 aircraft assembly pulse line further enhance product quality, improve the company's production management to raise the overall level of Honduras aircraft manufacturing management.
L15 pulse production line assembly, aircraft assembly to change the traditional model, borrowed from the aviation industry within the advanced and efficient assembly line practices, the inherent rhythm to the aircraft movement, the operator in the fixed area for assembly operations. Existing resources through rational planning and production integration, it can effectively improve the efficiency of aircraft assembly assembly, to improve the quality of product assembly, and can reduce labor intensity and improve the assembly site operating environment of aircraft low-cost, high quality and fast response manufacturing.
The production line construction program was accredited in May. Currently, the organization, management, construction work is being in preparation, the operation of the line can be achieved "downstream" assembly workshop led "upstream" production parts, raw materials supply sector and effective organization of production, the manufacturing process of the " bottleneck "problem of dominance. Honduras through the production line, can improve assembly efficiency, increase capacity, improve batch production and assembly processes to ensure product reliability, and product delivery mode, the assembly process information
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China Defense Blog: An update on the L-15 Program.
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New KJ-2000 AWACS
There are at least four KJ-2000s in operation.
http://www.sinodefence.com/airforce/specia...raft/kj2000.asp
"The AWACS aircraft designated KJ-2000 made its first flight in November 2003. Following some extensive flight testing at China Flight Test Establishment (CFTE) in Yanliang, Shaanxi Province and radar system testing at an airbase near Nanjing, Jiangsu Province, the aircraft entered operational service between 2006~07. A total of four examples (30071, 30072, 30073, and 30074) are being operated by the PLAAF 26th Air Division based in the eastern Zhejiang province near the Taiwan Strait."
[Note: Thank you to HouShanghai for the picture.]
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PAF send 20men to avic's university for training
中航工业-巴基斯坦空军高级培训班启动
发表日期：2011-06-16
6月14日，中航大学承办的巴基斯坦空军高级培训班开班仪式在中航大学举行。中航工业副总经理、中航大学副校长高建设，巴基斯坦驻华使馆空军武官萨尔曼A.布哈里上校出席了开班仪式。
萨尔曼A.布哈里在致辞中表示，今年正值中巴建交60周年，两国在尊重信任的基础上实现了多层面互利共赢的合作。巴基斯坦空军、中航工业和中航技为两国友谊的发展做出了重大贡献。两国在军用航空领域展开了广泛合作，巴方为现有的枭龙项目、K8教练机项目感到自豪，并期待双方未来能开展更多的合作项目。他希望通过此次培训，巴方学员能够走进中国航空工业，了解中国航空工业的发展，使两国建立更紧密的联系。
学员代表伊格巴·阿哈默德准将表示，中国飞机和其他防务装备因其低成本、高可靠性、易维护性，对巴方防卫能力的提升起到了非常重要的作用。本次培训不仅将增强巴空军工程人员在一般工程和管理方面的技术水平，还将对他们提升制造研发技术有所帮助。
高建设在致辞中指出，长期以来，中巴双方共同致力于发展睦邻友好与互利合作关系，在经贸、金融、文化等多个领域展开合作，并在国际政治、经济、安全局势复杂多变的形势下，始终坚持平等相待、相互尊重、真诚互助，构建了全天候的战略伙伴关系，共同肩负发展的使命，共同应对国际事务的挑战。巴基斯坦是我国航空军贸的支柱国家，双方合作已有30年的历史。在整机出口、提供维护所需的发动机与零备件、提供多种机型的地面和飞行模拟器、建立大修设施与飞机零部件生产线等领域，双方一直保持着紧密的合作关系。他希望通过此次人才培训，进一步加强双方合作力度，为实现深层次的交流奠定基础。
据悉，此次培训班是按照巴基斯坦空军要求专门开设的。作为承办单位的中航大学和中航技在时间紧、任务重的情况下，紧密配合、通力合作，在巴基斯坦驻华使馆的大力支持与帮助下，保证了此项目顺利开展。首批来自巴基斯坦空军的20位优秀军官将通过理论交流以及赴中国航空企业、研究院所参观和调研，分享中国航空工业在相关领域的知识和经验，增进对中国航空工业的认识和理解。
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AVIC - advanced training course launched in Pakistan Air Force
Date :2011 -06-16
June 14, the Pakistan Air Force Air University advanced training course hosted the opening ceremony at the Air University. Deputy General Manager of China Aviation Industry, Air Vice-Chancellor in a high building, Embassy of Pakistan Air Force attache, Colonel Salman A. Bukhari attended the opening ceremony.
Salman A. Bukhari said in his speech, this year marks the 60th anniversary of Sino-Pakistani diplomatic relations between the two countries on the basis of trust in respect to achieve a multi-faceted and mutually beneficial win-win cooperation. Pakistan Air Force, the aircraft industry and in aviation technology for the development of friendship between the two countries made a significant contribution. In the field of military aviation between the two countries had extensive cooperation, the Palestinian side of the existing "Fierce Dragon" project, K8 trainer proud of the project, and look forward to the future to carry out more cooperation projects. He hoped that through this training, the Palestinian side into the Chinese aviation industry participants to understand the development of China's aviation industry, the establishment of closer ties between the two countries.
Representative of the participants 伊格巴阿哈 Brigadier Mohammed said that the Chinese aircraft and other defense equipment because of its low cost, high reliability, easy maintenance, the ability of Pakistan to enhance defense played a very important role. The training will not only enhance the Pakistan Air Force personnel in general engineering and project management skills, they will also help to enhance manufacturing technology development.
In his speech, pointed out that the high building, a long time, China and Pakistan jointly committed to developing good-neighborly friendship and mutually beneficial cooperation in economy, trade, financial, cultural and other fields to cooperate, and in the international political, economic and security situation in the complex situation, always adhere to the equality, mutual respect, sincere mutual support and build the all-weather strategic partnership to jointly shoulder the mission of development and jointly cope with the challenges of international affairs. Pakistan is the backbone of our national aviation military trade, bilateral cooperation has been 30 years. In the export machine, the engine required to provide maintenance and spare parts, offers a variety of aircraft ground and flight simulators, the establishment of repair facilities and aircraft parts production and other fields, the two sides have maintained a close working relationship. He hoped that through this training, efforts to further strengthen bilateral cooperation for the realization of deep-level exchange basis.
It is reported that the course is set up in accordance with the special requirements of the Pakistan Air Force. As organizer of the Air University and CATIC in pressing, heavy cases, work closely together, work together in support of Pakistan embassy and help ensure the smooth implementation of this project. The first 20 from Pakistan Air Force officers will be good to go through the theory of exchange and the Chinese aviation enterprises, research institutes and research visits to share China's aviation industry in the relevant fields of knowledge and experience of China's aviation industry to enhance awareness and understanding.
中航工业-巴基斯坦空军高级培训班启动
发表日期：2011-06-16
6月14日，中航大学承办的巴基斯坦空军高级培训班开班仪式在中航大学举行。中航工业副总经理、中航大学副校长高建设，巴基斯坦驻华使馆空军武官萨尔曼A.布哈里上校出席了开班仪式。
萨尔曼A.布哈里在致辞中表示，今年正值中巴建交60周年，两国在尊重信任的基础上实现了多层面互利共赢的合作。巴基斯坦空军、中航工业和中航技为两国友谊的发展做出了重大贡献。两国在军用航空领域展开了广泛合作，巴方为现有的枭龙项目、K8教练机项目感到自豪，并期待双方未来能开展更多的合作项目。他希望通过此次培训，巴方学员能够走进中国航空工业，了解中国航空工业的发展，使两国建立更紧密的联系。
学员代表伊格巴·阿哈默德准将表示，中国飞机和其他防务装备因其低成本、高可靠性、易维护性，对巴方防卫能力的提升起到了非常重要的作用。本次培训不仅将增强巴空军工程人员在一般工程和管理方面的技术水平，还将对他们提升制造研发技术有所帮助。
高建设在致辞中指出，长期以来，中巴双方共同致力于发展睦邻友好与互利合作关系，在经贸、金融、文化等多个领域展开合作，并在国际政治、经济、安全局势复杂多变的形势下，始终坚持平等相待、相互尊重、真诚互助，构建了全天候的战略伙伴关系，共同肩负发展的使命，共同应对国际事务的挑战。巴基斯坦是我国航空军贸的支柱国家，双方合作已有30年的历史。在整机出口、提供维护所需的发动机与零备件、提供多种机型的地面和飞行模拟器、建立大修设施与飞机零部件生产线等领域，双方一直保持着紧密的合作关系。他希望通过此次人才培训，进一步加强双方合作力度，为实现深层次的交流奠定基础。
据悉，此次培训班是按照巴基斯坦空军要求专门开设的。作为承办单位的中航大学和中航技在时间紧、任务重的情况下，紧密配合、通力合作，在巴基斯坦驻华使馆的大力支持与帮助下，保证了此项目顺利开展。首批来自巴基斯坦空军的20位优秀军官将通过理论交流以及赴中国航空企业、研究院所参观和调研，分享中国航空工业在相关领域的知识和经验，增进对中国航空工业的认识和理解。
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AVIC - advanced training course launched in Pakistan Air Force
Date :2011 -06-16
June 14, the Pakistan Air Force Air University advanced training course hosted the opening ceremony at the Air University. Deputy General Manager of China Aviation Industry, Air Vice-Chancellor in a high building, Embassy of Pakistan Air Force attache, Colonel Salman A. Bukhari attended the opening ceremony.
Salman A. Bukhari said in his speech, this year marks the 60th anniversary of Sino-Pakistani diplomatic relations between the two countries on the basis of trust in respect to achieve a multi-faceted and mutually beneficial win-win cooperation. Pakistan Air Force, the aircraft industry and in aviation technology for the development of friendship between the two countries made a significant contribution. In the field of military aviation between the two countries had extensive cooperation, the Palestinian side of the existing "Fierce Dragon" project, K8 trainer proud of the project, and look forward to the future to carry out more cooperation projects. He hoped that through this training, the Palestinian side into the Chinese aviation industry participants to understand the development of China's aviation industry, the establishment of closer ties between the two countries.
Representative of the participants 伊格巴阿哈 Brigadier Mohammed said that the Chinese aircraft and other defense equipment because of its low cost, high reliability, easy maintenance, the ability of Pakistan to enhance defense played a very important role. The training will not only enhance the Pakistan Air Force personnel in general engineering and project management skills, they will also help to enhance manufacturing technology development.
In his speech, pointed out that the high building, a long time, China and Pakistan jointly committed to developing good-neighborly friendship and mutually beneficial cooperation in economy, trade, financial, cultural and other fields to cooperate, and in the international political, economic and security situation in the complex situation, always adhere to the equality, mutual respect, sincere mutual support and build the all-weather strategic partnership to jointly shoulder the mission of development and jointly cope with the challenges of international affairs. Pakistan is the backbone of our national aviation military trade, bilateral cooperation has been 30 years. In the export machine, the engine required to provide maintenance and spare parts, offers a variety of aircraft ground and flight simulators, the establishment of repair facilities and aircraft parts production and other fields, the two sides have maintained a close working relationship. He hoped that through this training, efforts to further strengthen bilateral cooperation for the realization of deep-level exchange basis.
It is reported that the course is set up in accordance with the special requirements of the Pakistan Air Force. As organizer of the Air University and CATIC in pressing, heavy cases, work closely together, work together in support of Pakistan embassy and help ensure the smooth implementation of this project. The first 20 from Pakistan Air Force officers will be good to go through the theory of exchange and the Chinese aviation enterprises, research institutes and research visits to share China's aviation industry in the relevant fields of knowledge and experience of China's aviation industry to enhance awareness and understanding.
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Pic showing composite use percentage of aircraft.
Is ZXX Z-10? what's JX and JXXB (J-11, J11B J-10B)?
Can we say the newest aircraft is the J-20, then it will have around 30% composite in it's airframe. F-22 has about 25%.
J-X is probably J-8 and J-XXB is probably J-11B. As for ZXX it has to be Z10.
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