Chinese Air Force (PLAAF) News & Discussions

[ChineseTiger1986]

But what we see is only production serie batch in factory test out and test centre batch with AL-31 engine. I believe the one enter service will swap into WS-10 engine.

As for why do they make such a hassle and trouble in doing that? I am not sure. Maybe they want to prolong the life of WS-10. Or they want to quickly expend all AL-31 engine before swapping all engine to WS-10 to standardise all using domestic engine.

The first priority of the WS-10 engine is to satisfy the demand of the J-11/J-15/J-16 first.

Due the limitation of the production, the J-10B 1035 will continue to test with the WS-10A engine to show that the WS-10A can fit into the J-10 perfectly, but only suffer some shortage of the production temporarily.

 

[Beast]

The first priority of the WS-10 engine is to satisfy the demand of the J-11/J-15/J-16 first.

Due the limitation of the production, the J-10B 1035 will continue to test with the WS-10A engine to show that the WS-10A can fit into the J-10 perfectly, but only suffer some shortage of the production temporarily.

The problem is since 2012, China has not signed any new deal for AL-31FN engines. Including the old J-10A, there is no way. The amount of AL-31FN engine in PLAAF inventory can't keep all J-10A/B flying.

Plus, J-10b may need higher thrust which AL-31FN can't offer. WS10 are know to offer higher thrust than AL-31FN engine.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

The problem is since 2012, China has not signed any new deal for AL-31FN engines. Including the old J-10A, there is no way. The amount of AL-31FN engine in PLAAF inventory can't keep all J-10A/B flying.

Plus, J-10b may need higher thrust which AL-31FN can't offer. WS10 are know to offer higher thrust than AL-31FN engine.

China still has some AL-31FN engines left in its inventory, which was purchased prior to 2012.

 

[aliaselin]

Y-19 CG

 

[aliaselin]

Q-9

 

[Beast]

Q-9
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I doubt the benefit of a single seat K-8.

 

[aliaselin]

I doubt the benefit of a single seat K-8.

Why？

 

[Beast]

Why？

For CAS mission, normal K-8 can also accomplish it. K-8 can train new pilot and carry out CAS. Which is something single K-8K cant do it. Why waste money on just another platform?

 

[Beast]

The J-20 is surprisingly resemble our cancelled Mig 1.44 project with a little bit characteristics of US F-111 and F-22.
I think AL-31 engine only works on jet 17 tons or below so I guess China is still need to work on this part before fully deploy

J-20 weight is above 20 tons!!!!

Why China still keep those obsolete J-8s in service???

The current engine used on J-20 is WS-10G and not AL-31 engine. WS-10G has more thrust and higher MTBO than AL-31. The final engine used on J-20 will be WS-15(18000kg thrust).

All J-8 are upgraded with new radar and data link. Besides dogfight, they are capable to perform most multi role task.

 

[Luftwaffe]

Y-19 CG
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Is there any Y-19 Program at all?

 

[siegecrossbow]

Chinese Su-30s and Air Force personnel at an International ground-attack (with rockets) competition in Russia:

The English name for the competition is "Avia-dart". Aside from ground-attack, pilots are expected to perform low-altitude aerobatic manoeuvres as well as evasive maneuvers.

 

[aliaselin]

Is there any Y-19 Program at all?

No confirmation.

 

[nomi007]

 

[aliaselin]

PL-10

 

[Zarvan]

Chinese Su-30s and Air Force personnel at an International ground-attack (with rockets) competition in Russia:

The English name for the competition is "Avia-dart". Aside from ground-attack, pilots are expected to perform low-altitude aerobatic manoeuvres as well as evasive maneuvers.

When you will start mass production off J-16 and J-15 @cnelio