China’s Xinjiang-a role model for Pakistan to develop Balochistan

[beijingwalker]

Did you even consider to think why Xinjiang boiled over in 2009?

Communal violence is not uncommon around the world , it's more so in central Asian regions, didn't you have them in Pakistan? Chinese government is one of the few countries which can quickly bring peace and order back once they happen , be in Tibet or Xinjiang. That's a good government does, to safeguard people's life and property and social stability, a bad government may never be capable to solve those issues and people see attacks and deaths of civilians on regular basis.

 

[Dubious]

IMO

The world is made up of more than your opinion!

what China is doing with Uighur is rollbacking their culture to 1940, merging with science and technology, and some Chinese culture, if you can't accept, I can't help.

Question should be why is Chinese culture so weak it cant accept other cultures...In the 21st century diversity is strength!

Wow....I admire your patience and endurance...hai. Good choice of mod...

Thank you I just try...

Educating and eradicating ignorance is what will propel us forward!

I saw different opinions about it among different Pakistani posters, so no one can really represent your government here, so the best way is to see and hear what the Pakistani government says and does.

If you want people to people relationship you will get all sorts of opinions! Coz we arent clones!

THe govt's stand will be based on what is good for the country...it is called national interest!

However, what people want is not always that simple! We are human beings and our wants are different than what can bring us success!

Like for instance what is said about love:

Love cant fill the belly! So even if people want love, money is also added in the equation!

In our scenario here....

People want = peace and live peacefully as unique individuals and not as clones! Diversity should be viewed as strength not be feared! Live and let live

What govt wants = investment + progress (this doesnt factor culture)

 

[beijingwalker]

Question should be why is Chinese culture so weak it cant accept other cultures...In the 21st century diversity is strength!

If you know history you should know that Chinese culture is a combination of all different cultures during China's thousnads of years of history, it is so strong that many once prominant other cultures were merged into it over the time, Jurchen，Khitan， Xianbei， Turks，the Huns...and became Chinese, Chinese culture also spread into other east Asian countries and became the mother of their cultures and this culture greatly help them to become very successful nations, Korea, Japan, Vietnam, Singapore, so claiming Chinese culture is weak is rather absurd, Chinese culture may overtake western culture and become dominant one in the 21st century.

People want = peace and live peacefully as unique individuals and not as clones! Diversity should be viewed as strength not be feared! Live and let live

That's what China is, peaceful, prosperous and with great diversity, you think China has no diversity? It shows you know nothing about China.
This girl is a professional travelers who has been to many countries including India and Pakistan,
Check from 10:45 and see what foreigners experienced unbelievable diversity in China.

 

[Dubious]

If you know history you should know that Chinese culture is a combination of all different cultures during China's thousnads of years of history, it is so strong that many once prominant other cultures were merged into it over the time, Jurchen，Khitan， Xianbei， Turks，the Huns...and became Chinese, Chinese culture also spread into other east Asian countries and became the mother of their cultures and this culture greatly help them to become very successful nations, Korea, Japan, Vietnam, Singapore, so claiming Chinese culture is weak is rather absurd, Chinese culture may overtake western culture and become dominant one in the 21st century.

What exactly do you define as Chinese culture?

If it is as strong as you deem so....why try to change their culture?

That's what China is, peaceful, prosperous and with great diversity, you think China has no diversity? It shows you know nothing about China.

Well, the diversity I am talking about is like people of different backgrounds....

And you know perfectly well, until and unless to study and work, you wouldnt have met any other people in China!

The diversity you are talking about is still ethnically Chinese!

Ok lets make it easier for you: Walking down the street how many non Chinese people (Any Africans? Any South Asians? Any Russians/ Slovak people?) would you see on a common day (in a non touristic area) who are not in China to work or study? Living there as Chinese say since few generations?

How many of your ethinic groups are NON CHINESE?

major minority ethnic groups in China are Zhuang (16.9 million), Hui (10.5 million), Manchu (10.3 million), Uyghur (10 million), Miao (9.4 million), Yi (8.7 million), Tujia (8.3 million), Tibetan (6.2 million), Mongol (5.9 million), Dong (2.8 million), Buyei (2.8 million), Yao (2.7 million), Bai (1.9 million), -These are all Chinese! Except maybe the Mongol....

My bad maybe the word I am looking for is multi cultured! I am avoiding using the word "RACE"

 

[beijingwalker]

What exactly do you define as Chinese culture?

If it is as strong as you deem so....why try to change their culture?

The same way you define your culture, what makes you think that you can tell me what my culture is like and how strong or weak it is? I don't try to change my culture, my culture always goes with the time and ajusts itself over the history, that's why you can see it still vibrant today all across east Asia.

 

[Dubious]

According to Wikipedia (I dont like it but it is a source of snapshot ifno): In 2010, 91.51% of the population were classified as Han (~1.2 billion)

That is not diverse!

The same way you define your culture, what makes you think that you can tell me what my culture is like and how strong or weak it is?

Whose telling you? I am asking you!

Next if it is so strong, why the fear?

I don't try to change my culture, my culture always goes with the time and ajusts itself over the history, that's why you can see it still vibrant today all across east Asia.

Your culture is vibrant due to the population size not strength of the culture...you still didnt answer my question: What is Chinese culture?

If you look at
List based on Fearon's analysis


In the Fearon list, cultural fractionalization is approximated by a measure of similarity between languages, varying from 1 = the population speaks two or more unrelated languages to 0 = the entire population speaks the same language

You will see China is less diverse than even Sri Lanka!

 

[beijingwalker]

The diversity you are talking about is still ethnically Chinese!

Ok lets make it easier for you: Walking down the street how many non Chinese people (Any Africans? Any South Asians? Any Russians/ Slovak people?) would you see on a common day (in a non touristic area) who are not in China to work or study? Living there as Chinese say since few generations?

Everyday? countless, so many, everywhere, too many maybe, how many foreigners you meet everyday in Pakistan? China is not a immigration country like US and Australia, we are an old continent country. Maybe you believe having people from every corner around the world is a good thing, but most east Aasians think it's bad, that's what cultural differences lie, don't take western culture and preference for granted, it maybe not true in other parts of the world.

 

[Goku]

The world is made up of more than your opinion!


Question should be why is Chinese culture so weak it cant accept other cultures...In the 21st century diversity is strength!

The Chinese culture is quite rich and beautiful , its not weak at all . What weak is the ideology of CCP and their insecurity

 

[Dubious]

And lets make this clear...Just coz I question you doesnt mean I agree/ disagree with you nor does it mean I like/ dislike something...It is a forum to discuss...If that isnt going to happen, everyone shouldnt be on it, right?

 

[beijingwalker]

You will see China is less diverse than even Sri Lanka!

That's good, so are Japan and Korea, but none of us think it's a bad thing, don't take your preference and values for granted in other parts of the world.

 

[Dubious]

Everyday? countless, so many, everywhere, too many maybe, how many foreigners you meet everyday in Pakistan?

We dont have to....Even our own people are ethnically diverse! We have black Pakistanis with ancestors from Africa! We have Arab Pakistanis with ancestors from different Parts of Middle east. We have Turkish Pakistanis with ancestors from Turkey and other areas! We have White Pakistanis with blue green eyes, we have brown Pakistanis with blue green eyes...we have Chinese looking Pakistanis from up North!

We dont need to search for a foreigner to find a different face

That's good, so are Japan and Korea, but none of us think it's a bad thing, don't take your preference and values for granted in other parts of the world.

Yes so are Japan and Korea...But we are not talking about Japan nor Korea....Thread is about China

The Chinese culture is quite rich and beautiful , its not weak at all . What weak is the ideology of CCP and their insecurity

Ideology of CCP?

I dont doubt it is rich and beautiful....My question was not regarding that but regarding the insecurities Chinese feel that there is fear of a different culture ...If there isnt (I can be proven wrong) then why are a whole different people who identify as Turk descent being told to swallow Chinese culture whole and why does China have a problem with their culture?

Difference is good!

 

[beijingwalker]

We dont have to....Even our own people are ethnically diverse! We have black Pakistanis with ancestors from Africa! We have Arab Pakistanis with ancestors from different Parts of Middle east. We have Turkish Pakistanis with ancestors from Turkey and other areas! We have White Pakistanis with blue green eyes, we have brown Pakistanis with blue green eyes...we have Chinese looking Pakistanis from up North!

We dont need to search for a foreigner to find a different face

That's why I said you preference is not something desired here, why we need to have so many foreigners living with us? East Asians prefer being homogeneous.

 

[Dubious]

That's why I said you preference is not something desired her, why we need to have so many foreigners living with us? East Asians prefer being homonenous.

SO you dont like diversity...

Why then boast you are diverse based on foreigners?

IN the 21st century diversity is strength...

Based on biology...mixing is better! Homogeneous is dangerous!

China is not a immigration country like US and Australia, we are an old continent country. Maybe you believe having people from every corner around the world is a good thing, but most east Aasians think it's bad, that's what cultural differences lie, don't take western culture and preference for granted, it maybe not true in other parts of the world.

Yes, that is where difference lies!

But you do take a liking to Western culture...Apple/ Mc Donals and other American and Western perfumery and stuff is very popular in China! I dont think many wear chongsam as opposed to jeans, right?

 

[beijingwalker]

SO you dont like diversity...

Why then boast you are diverse based on foreigners?

IN the 21st century diversity is strength...

Based on biology...mixing is better! Homogeneous is dangerous!

Why showing is boasting? China does have a large expats community, and size of it is ok, don't take your western vaules for graned as I say it again, we have different cultures, East Asian cultures and western culture are world apart, too much diversity is divisive and not a good thing in this part of the world.

 

[Dubious]

The same way you define your culture,

No, my culture is different....Each people in Pakistan has their own culture ...we have some common grounds but there is alot of differences which we embrace and there is alot of overlap coz of other factors like religion....But there is alot of difference from clothing to language (some are not even from the same root language) and even to household differences! Some differences are minor others like language and clothing really do stand out!

Why showing is boasting? China does have a large expats community, and size of it is ok, don't take your western vaules for graned as I say it again, we have different cultures, East Asian cultures and western culture are world apart, too much diversity is divisive and not a good thing in this part of the world.

First you said you like homogeneous then you claim diversity?! Those two are opposite words!