China’s Xinjiang-a role model for Pakistan to develop Balochistan

[beijingwalker]

Ok, we are wrong, all east Asians are wrong, are you happy now?

 

[Dubious]

Believe me , you are not just quesioning me, you are trying to say that they are wrong, but that's ok, it can be wrong if applied in your country, yours can be wrong if applied to my country, so just let's agree to diagree, no one is wrong, ok?

I am not saying it is wrong but questioning you what it is...and all I did say is that in 21st century, diversity is strength! I didnt use the word wrong! Learn to read , understand before replying...quick replies will not give you extra points!

Japan and Korea are more so, if we are all wrong, there must be a reason, maybe it's right in this region only, we are a poor model maybe, but we didn't force anyone to follow at least.

Thread is not about Japan nor Korea!

Calling your model poor doesnt mean you were forcing anyone to follow it...

Ok, we are wrong, all east Asians are wrong, are you happy now?

lolz...Stop letting your emotions get the better of you! Anyway, have a good day and keep away from trolling!

 

[beijingwalker]

I am not saying it is wrong but questioning you what it is...and all I did say is that in 21st century, diversity is strength! I didnt use the word wrong! Learn to read , understand before replying...quick replies will not give you extra points!


Thread is not about Japan nor Korea!

Calling your model poor doesnt mean you were forcing anyone to follow it...

You can dislike this culture, it's prefectly fine, but there are some people like it, in and outside this geneal region, likes and dislikes of something is quite natural, I don't blame you for that.

Calling your model poor doesnt mean you were forcing anyone to follow it...

Ok, we hava a poor model, but still it's our model, can we keep it please?

 

[Dubious]

You can dislike this culture

STOP being overprotective

It is not even funny anymore!

Ok, we hava a poor model, but still it's our model, can we keep it please?

Listen to confucious
多聞闕疑，慎言其餘，則寡尤。多見闕殆，慎行其餘，則寡悔。言寡無，行寡悔，祿在其中矣。

• Listen widely to remove your doubts and be careful when speaking about the rest and your mistakes will be few.

 

[beijingwalker]

STOP being overprotective

It is not even funny anymore!


Listen to confucious
多聞闕疑，慎言其餘，則寡尤。多見闕殆，慎行其餘，則寡悔。言寡無，行寡悔，祿在其中矣。

• Listen widely to remove your doubts and be careful when speaking about the rest and your mistakes will be few.

What do you want from us? I said it's a poor model, but it's ours, you can have your wonderful model why can't we? Aren't both you and me happy abuot our models a good thing?

 

[Dubious]

What do you want from us? I said it's a poor model, but it's ours, you can have your wonderful model why can't we? Aren't both you and me happy abuot our models a good thing?

I dont want anything from you...

Not everything is a business deal and should be closed!

Knowledge is a powerful tool!

Have a good day!

 

[OIO]

Oppressing a nation or Forcing it to comply is extremism!

infact, Uighurs were converted by force to Muslim, they were Buddhists in the history.

 

[Nasr]

Uygurs are Muslim, there isn't anything debating that. But using Islam to politicize things is wrong. The rights of every faith ought to be protected. If the state (that isn't a Muslim state) is in conflict with Islamic faith, then Muslims must migrate out of that state by all peaceful means.

I do not believe China is hostile toward Islam, but I do believe the Uygurs issue is highly politicized by the West to create conflict between Muslim states and China. As for Muslim states, well their leadership ranges from being pathetic to being utterly shameful.

A Muslim must do everything to preserve his/her faith. And that means migrating out of the country, then so be it. Be peaceful and practice Islam. Do not be a puppy and be manipulated by Zionist-West who in reality are the real enemies of Muslims.

The hilarity of it all is, most Muslims fail to identify who Zionist-West are. Worst still, they do not even know why Zionist-West is the enemy of Islam.

Educate yourself with some real knowledge, else you're just another idiot with a degree.

 

[Dubious]

infact, Uighurs were converted by force to Muslim, they were Buddhists in the history.

Force?

Please state your historical battle that forcefully converted them! Because forcefully converting anyone on Chinese land or land of another would lead to a war...So please mention the battle which led to it or else we will count you as a troll!

 

[letsrock]

As far I know sinification, in theory, means educating minorities such as uigyurs so they better integrate with the society. This means making their interface to rest of china more common with other chinese. China argues that sinification wont reduce or weaken islam but may actually strengthen it because with a more common shared culture the core teaching of Islam can spread more easily. Islam is not a costume or few mannersmss but a religious doctrine and is better served if anything makes it easier to be understood by others. Now thats the theory. But how sinification is implemented in practice I have no idea. I did hear some news its brutal .

 

[beijingwalker]

As far I know sinification, in theory, means educating minorities such as uigyurs so they better integrate with the society. This means making their interface to rest of china more common with other chinese. China argues that sinification wont reduce or weaken islam but may actually strengthen it because with a more common shared culture the core teaching of Islam can spread more easily. Islam is not a costume or few mannersmss but a religious doctrine and is better served if anything makes it easier to be understood by others. Now thats the theory. But how sinification is implemented in practice I have no idea. I did hear some news its brutal .

They accuse China of persecuting Christians, Muslima, Buddists, Falungong practitioners...but the truth is what the government tries to do is to keep the harmonious and peaceful coexistance of all cultures and religions so they don't come to each other's throats, no radicalism is allowed to all religions and atheism.

After hundreds of Han people were massacred in 2009's Urumqi riot, tens of thousands young Han people went out to the street armed with iron sticks and machetes asking for Uighur blood, the government quickly sent in police force and dispersed them and there were almost no Uighur casualties incurred, Urumqi is a heavily Han dominated city, they will kill all Uighurs if the government didn't step in and stop them, you are going to see another Rohingya in Xinjiang.

China is 95% ethnic Han and atheists domniated country, any communal violence will spell disaster for any minorities and religious groups, so Chinese government role is actually to protect the small and weaker groups and even give them a lot of preferential treatments which Han Chinese resent but could do nothing about, so you could see almost zero communal violent in China, taking the Chinese government role out of the equation and let people fight out their issues by themselves, there'll be no minorities or any religious groups in China in a week.

 

[Itachi]

Uygurs are Muslim, there isn't anything debating that. But using Islam to politicize things is wrong. The rights of every faith ought to be protected. If the state (that isn't a Muslim state) is in conflict with Islamic faith, then Muslims must migrate out of that state by all peaceful means.

I do not believe China is hostile toward Islam, but I do believe the Uygurs issue is highly politicized by the West to create conflict between Muslim states and China. As for Muslim states, well their leadership ranges from being pathetic to being utterly shameful.

A Muslim must do everything to preserve his/her faith. And that means migrating out of the country, then so be it. Be peaceful and practice Islam. Do not be a puppy and be manipulated by Zionist-West who in reality are the real enemies of Muslims.

The hilarity of it all is, most Muslims fail to identify who Zionist-West are. Worst still, they do not even know why Zionist-West is the enemy of Islam.

Educate yourself with some real knowledge, else you're just another idiot with a degree.

Wrong, Xinjiang has been historically in the hands of the Turkic people, many of whom, if not all, converted to Islam.

So the land today called "Xinjiang" belongs to Muslims. The land was taken by the CCP after WWII and before WWII by the Qing Empire. Between the Qing Empire and CCP, Xinjiang was independent for couple of years.


Hopefully you can read a map:

Historically, "China" has been everything on the Eastern side of Tibet.....most of it's dynasties/empires were based in the East, on the East China Sea/the Pacific Ocean.

Even today, majority of Chinese pop. lives on the Eastern seaboard.

Now, the CCP is "importing" Han Chinese (like it did with Tibet) to Xinjiang so that they can dilute the native population and that has already worked and is in the final stages of being done. Look up the historical percentages of populations in Xinjiang.

 

[rott]

Baluchistan also needs "vocational education camps"

What you said in a jest is actually the most essential part. You are ABSOLUTELY CORRECT on point!

 

[OIO]

Wrong, Xinjiang has been historically in the hands of the Turkic people, many of whom, if not all, converted to Islam.

So the land today called "Xinjiang" belongs to Muslims. The land was taken by the CCP after WWII and before WWII by the Qing Empire. Between the Qing Empire and CCP, Xinjiang was independent for couple of years.


Hopefully you can read a map:

Historically, "China" has been everything on the Eastern side of Tibet.....most of it's dynasties/empires were based in the East, on the East China Sea/the Pacific Ocean.

Even today, majority of Chinese pop. lives on the Eastern seaboard.

Now, the CCP is "importing" Han Chinese (like it did with Tibet) to Xinjiang so that they can dilute the native population and that has already worked and is in the final stages of being done. Look up the historical percentages of populations in Xinjiang.

Xinjiang was part of China before Islam was invented.

 

[W.11]

why not implement it in the entire country instead and then lets see what happens?

regards