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China’s screen manufacturers up their game as domestic OLED technology matures

By Campos Santiago Source:Global Times Published: 2018/7/23 21:48:39


Domestic OLED technology mature, production to expand fast
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A flexible panel made by BOE displayed at an exhibition hall in Wuhan, capital of Central China's Hubei Province in November Photo: VCG


Chinese manufacturers of displays for digital devices are maturing after years of steady growth, said experts, as reports surface that Apple has already integrated local company BOE into its supply chain and could soon procure next-generation organic light-emitting diode (OLED) screens for its iPhones in the nation.

"Non-disclosure agreements prevent us from discussing particular products, but BOE has indeed been part of Apple's list of suppliers since March. Our technology and production capacity are world-class, and we have been involved in OLED research since 2001," a staff member in charge of public relations of BOE said in a statement sent to the Global Times on Monday.

"Mass-production of flexible AMOLED (low temperature poly silicon-active matrix organic light-emitting diode) began in October 2017 in our Chengdu factory. Capacity is improving steadily and we estimate we will achieve complete reliability by 2019," said the BOE statement.

The comment comes after a report by the Wall Street Journal citing unnamed industry sources as saying that BOE was seeking to supply screens for Apple's iPhone. Sources said BOE could supply OLED screens to Apple by 2020.

Experts noted how the move signals the maturity of China's display manufacturing industry after years of steady growth.

"Apple's procuring standards are the highest in the market," Liu Buchen, a senior home appliance industry analyst based in Guangzhou, capital of South China's Guangdong Province, told the Global Times on Monday. "BOE is the leader of OLED screens now in China, and if Apple recognizes it as a reliable supplier, all other manufacturers will soon follow suit," he said.

Screens are one of the most important and expensive components in a smartphone, the majority of which are manufactured in China. In an area long dominated by Japanese and South Korean companies, Chinese manufacturers have quickly entered the display manufacturing industry. At first, they made traditional liquid crystal displays (LCD), soon moving to more advanced OLED screens.

"At present rates, China will dominate the LCD market in a few years. Eventually, the same will happen in with OLED screens," Sun Yanbiao, head of Shenzhen-based research company N1mobile, told the Global Times on Monday.

Experts noted how China's position as the global center of digital manufacturing has bred world-class producers of displays.

"BOE was unprofitable for more than five years, but slowly it accumulated technological know-how, and now its products can be seen in many products such as Samsung TVs or Apple computers," Xiang Ligang, chief executive of telecom industry news site cctime.com, told the Global Times on Monday.

"Being based in China where most downstream manufacturers are located is a great advantage, as it shortens the supply chain, and the addition of Chinese companies to the market brings competition that can resolve issues with market manipulation or supply shortages," said Xiang.

OLED screens are increasingly being adopted by smartphone manufacturers, and they are estimated to completely replace LCD screens in the coming years. Experts noted that the entry of Chinese manufacturers will drive down prices and accelerate the transformation of the OLED market.

"Samsung as of now has about 95 percent of the market for smartphone OLED screens, but Chinese companies such as BOE, Everdisplay and Visionox are all expanding production. The issue is now reliability, but if Apple gives its recognition to BOE, all other smartphone manufacturers such as Huawei and Xiaomi will soon follow suit, and the expanded supply will drive down screen prices," said Sun.

http://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1112019.shtml
 
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This is what China mass produce, and soon all of your next iphone will use Chinese Brand new flexible panel :enjoy:

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hmmm @Nilgiri @Viet @Aqsuperman hahaha :toast_sign:

Something is funny about it to tag me?

We should laugh much louder at China during 20th century when it was unable to produce an iota of anything worthy...and got treated as it did by foreign powers?

Countries and civilizations change, and wax and wane....I'm not sure why you have to mock others when you feel you are ahead compared to before....if anything it just shows a certain complex you have inherited from that quite recent long era of failure.

@gambit @jhungary @Dai Toruko @Vergennes @Mista
 
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Something is funny about it to tag me?

We should laugh much louder at China during 20th century when it was unable to produce an iota of anything worthy...and got treated as it did by foreign powers?

Countries and civilizations change, and wax and wane....I'm not sure why you have to mock others when you feel you are ahead compared to before....if anything it just shows a certain complex you have inherited from that quite recent long era of failure.

@gambit @jhungary @Dai Toruko @Vergennes @Mista


I'm only tag you for updated new info, I don't mock anyone. don't become a cry baby here.

It's only a new info, even India is not called on that article (because it's irrelevant :lol:)
Why butt hurt so much? :D

@Jlaw @AndrewJin @Kai Liu @antonius123
 
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This is what China mass produce, and soon all of your next iphone will use Chinese Brand new flexible panel :enjoy:

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hmmm @Nilgiri @Viet @Aqsuperman hahaha :toast_sign:
Long way to go. The kimchi’s still dominate the market. 95 percent. Vietnam factories of Samsung and LG deliver the mass of all displays for smartphone including iPhone, TV, etc.

I expect Vietnamese domestic manufacturers will jump in the train and produce displays as well in the future. By then, cheap won’t be an argument for people to buy China products.
 
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This is what China mass produce, and soon all of your next iphone will use Chinese Brand new flexible panel :enjoy:

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hmmm @Nilgiri @Viet @Aqsuperman hahaha :toast_sign:

I just don't understand why would it be an achievement if BOE supplies AMOLED to iPhone? Did the current supplier (Samsung) claim it was an achievement? Or did you say it was equally the same achievement that Samsung provided the AMOLED to iPhone? Phone need a screen, and whoever can provide it the way I want I will let them produce screen for my phone, it's not something or any clause to celebrate.

When you are around 10 to 15 years late in the game, it is most certainly NOT SOMETHING you want to brag about. More so if you are saying the only reason apple would choose (which is an unknown at this moment) BOE is not because of its quality, but their price.

another thing I don't get is why you lot all brag about China dominating LCD manufacturing? LCD is not generally use in many electronics such as TV and Mobile Phone or Computer Screen anymore, LCD now have more of an exclusive use such as medical equipment, the reason China dominate LCD is simply because nobody else is using it at the moment, I mean how long ago you had a LCD screen mobile phone? LCD monitor? or LCD TV? I stopped using LCD screen in late 2000s....

Something is funny about it to tag me?

We should laugh much louder at China during 20th century when it was unable to produce an iota of anything worthy...and got treated as it did by foreign powers?

Countries and civilizations change, and wax and wane....I'm not sure why you have to mock others when you feel you are ahead compared to before....if anything it just shows a certain complex you have inherited from that quite recent long era of failure.

@gambit @jhungary @Dai Toruko @Vergennes @Mista

Their action reminded me of an ads where a toddler go to potty and then point to the poop (off screen) and say to the mother (Mommy see what have I done, I am a good boy)

For some reason many of these "Achievement" these people claim was done and dusted and nobody is actaulyl talking claim other than themselves, case in point, how many Aircraft Carrier thread in Chinese Defence section? and then go to the American thread and count how many of the American starting thread about USS Ford.

Bear in mind, while the Chinese is "celebrating" the "achievement" of building a small flat top using conventional power, or goating on some Nuclear Power vessel that did not even exist in reality, nobody in American section say "Hey, look at me, I am building a Ford" But when you compare the Chinese Carrier and the USS Ford, which one is more powerful and more advance?

In the west, these type of post, we usually simply replies with a phase "so what, you want a medal?" and skip thru. This is nothing but some type of "Attention-Whoring" as we said.
 
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I just don't understand why would it be an achievement if BOE supplies AMOLED to iPhone? Did the current supplier (Samsung) claim it was an achievement? Or did you say it was equally the same achievement that Samsung provided the AMOLED to iPhone? Phone need a screen, and whoever can provide it the way I want I will let them produce screen for my phone, it's not something or any clause to celebrate.

The article clearly said: because Iphone apply the highest and most stringent requirement without compromise.

That means BOE is offering better in term of quality & price. Samsung used to dominate the technology, now it is broken by BOE, why it is not an achievement?

When you are around 10 to 15 years late in the game, it is most certainly NOT SOMETHING you want to brag about. More so if you are saying the only reason apple would choose (which is an unknown at this moment) BOE is not because of its quality, but their price.


Late compared to whom?

Did US or European or Japanese manufacturer can provide up to date Amoled and OLED technology in par with Samsung or BOE?

another thing I don't get is why you lot all brag about China dominating LCD manufacturing? LCD is not generally use in many electronics such as TV and Mobile Phone or Computer Screen anymore, LCD now have more of an exclusive use such as medical equipment, the reason China dominate LCD is simply because nobody else is using it at the moment, I mean how long ago you had a LCD screen mobile phone? LCD monitor? or LCD TV? I stopped using LCD screen in late 2000s....


Wrong!

LCD is still widely used in TV industry, in fact OLED and Amoled is still not as many as LCD.

You'd better check before making another claim.

Their action reminded me of an ads where a toddler go to potty and then point to the poop (off screen) and say to the mother (Mommy see what have I done, I am a good boy)

For some reason many of these "Achievement" these people claim was done and dusted and nobody is actaulyl talking claim other than themselves, case in point, how many Aircraft Carrier thread in Chinese Defence section? and then go to the American thread and count how many of the American starting thread about USS Ford.

Bear in mind, while the Chinese is "celebrating" the "achievement" of building a small flat top using conventional power, or goating on some Nuclear Power vessel that did not even exist in reality, nobody in American section say "Hey, look at me, I am building a Ford" But when you compare the Chinese Carrier and the USS Ford, which one is more powerful and more advance?

In the west, these type of post, we usually simply replies with a phase "so what, you want a medal?" and skip thru. This is nothing but some type of "Attention-Whoring" as we said.


Because you have wrong conception about "achievement".

Progress is also an achievement. Achievement is not necessarily has to be the best.
 
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The article clearly said: because Iphone apply the highest and most stringent requirement without compromise.

That means BOE is offering better in term of quality & price. Samsung used to dominate the technology, now it is broken by BOE, why it is not an achievement?

that DOES NOT mean BOE quality is better than Samsung tho.

Late compared to whom?

Did US or European or Japanese manufacturer can provide up to date Amoled and OLED technology in par with Samsung or BOE?

lol you do know OLED technology was INVENTED BY PHILIPS, a Dutch company? right?

OLED and to some extend AMOLED is not a Korean invention. European have the tech that can match the Korean, the problem is, their price is far worse than Korean and Chinese, in fact, there are many OLED manufacturer in the world. You can search them all up from the website here

https://www.oled-info.com/companies/oled-displays

Some like MicroOLED is from France, and ofcourse Philips is from Netherland, and a lot of Japanese manufacturer Panasonic, Toshiba and so on. go to the website, check out the company Bios one by one, and see it for yourself

just because you don't know didn't mean it does not exist...

Wrong!

LCD is still widely used in TV industry, in fact OLED and Amoled is still not as many as LCD.

You'd better check before making another claim.

Did I say they Weren't USE in TV? I said they are phased out. LCD still have their use, and LED and Plasma have indeed taken over TV industry (you either confused Plasma to LCD) I don't know about Indonesia or China,

in Australia, 28 over 31 TV sold in JB Hi-Fi over 65 inch is LED only 3 LCD

https://www.jbhifi.com.au/tvs/tvs-65-70/

Count it yourself.

21 over 28 TV sold in JB Hi Fi between 55 to 60 inch is LED, only 7 are LCD

https://www.jbhifi.com.au/tvs/tvs-55-60/

Count it yourself

9 over 9 TV sold in JB Hi-Fi between 45 to 55 inch is LED, none are LCD.

https://www.jbhifi.com.au/tvs/tvs-48-50/

Count it yourself.

Now, I don't know about you, where I lived, 58 over 68 of all TV I would buy is LED. It may be different in Indonesia, I don't know maybe you guys are really that cheap and can only afford LCD TV, but as far as where I lived and where most developed world are, LCD TV WAS ALL BUT REPLACED.

Also, there are no AMOLED TV (Too thin to stretch out for over 50 inch) most TV are either LED or QLED.

Now, tell me which phone is still using LCD versus which phone is using AMOLED?

You may want to check what you say before you told other people being wrong. Otherwise you will ended up looking stupid...

Because you have wrong conception about "achievement".

Progress is also an achievement. Achievement is not necessarily has to be the best.

Am I? Look at the pooping example.

Yes, from using Diaper to Going to Potty is an "Progress", did it deserve a Trophy is another business.
 
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that DOES NOT mean BOE quality is better than Samsung tho.


Why always dodging when your argument is broken?

When did I ever said BOE quality si better than Samsung? LOL

lol you do know OLED technology was INVENTED BY PHILIPS, a Dutch company? right?

OLED and to some extend AMOLED is not a Korean invention. European have the tech that can match the Korean, the problem is, their price is far worse than Korean and Chinese, in fact, there are many OLED manufacturer in the world. You can search them all up from the website here

https://www.oled-info.com/companies/oled-displays

Some like MicroOLED is from France, and ofcourse Philips is from Netherland, and a lot of Japanese manufacturer Panasonic, Toshiba and so on. go to the website, check out the company Bios one by one, and see it for yourself

just because you don't know didn't mean it does not exist...


LOL. Just because you invent the technology - doesnt mean in the future you will be always a leader in that field :lol:

China invent rocket, Germany invent modern rocket, but nowadays it is US that lead rocket technology.

The fact said: it is korean LG and Samsung + now BOE china that lead in OLED, not Phillips :laugh:

Did I say they Weren't USE in TV? I said they are phased out. LCD still have their use, and LED and Plasma have indeed taken over TV industry (you either confused Plasma to LCD) I don't know about Indonesia or China,

in Australia, 28 over 31 TV sold in JB Hi-Fi over 65 inch is LED only 3 LCD

https://www.jbhifi.com.au/tvs/tvs-65-70/

Count it yourself.

21 over 28 TV sold in JB Hi Fi between 55 to 60 inch is LED, only 7 are LCD

https://www.jbhifi.com.au/tvs/tvs-55-60/

Count it yourself

9 over 9 TV sold in JB Hi-Fi between 45 to 55 inch is LED, none are LCD.

https://www.jbhifi.com.au/tvs/tvs-48-50/

Count it yourself.

Now, I don't know about you, where I lived, 58 over 68 of all TV I would buy is LED. It may be different in Indonesia, I don't know maybe you guys are really that cheap and can only afford LCD TV, but as far as where I lived and where most developed world are, LCD TV WAS ALL BUT REPLACED.

Also, there are no AMOLED TV (Too thin to stretch out for over 50 inch) most TV are either LED or QLED.

Now, tell me which phone is still using LCD versus which phone is using AMOLED?

You may want to check what you say before you told other people being wrong. Otherwise you will ended up looking stupid...


You said : "LCD is not generally use in many electronics such as TV and Mobile Phone or Computer Screen anymore" that is where I said you are wrong! why keep dodging? :lol:

And LED is backlid LCD means it is still LCD. LOL it is suprising Mr PHD has no clue about it :laugh: :lol:

Means: LED still widely available in the market break your false claim that LCD is not generally use in many electronics such as TV etc :laugh:

Am I? Look at the pooping example.

Yes, from using Diaper to Going to Potty is an "Progress", did it deserve a Trophy is another business.


It is relative to say.

But if the progress is positive and beyond usual/normal it deserve to be called. So there is "Achievement".

So there is nothing wrong to say that China progress and BOE progress in display technology is achievement.
 
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Why always dodging when your argument is broken?

When did I ever said BOE quality si better than Samsung? LOL

I don't know where you learn English to have this make sense. You literally said


That means BOE is offering better in term of quality & price.

I don't know where you learn English, if you say A offer something BETTER IN TERM OF QUALITY AND PRICE than B, which mean A have better quality than B.

Not to mention BOE had YET to break Samsung Dominant in LED market, as of Today, Samsung still hold around 90% of all LED production, and even at the article it said BOE can ONLY supply Apple with LED screen starting 2020, we are still in 2018.

LOL. Just because you invent the technology - doesnt mean in the future you will be always a leader in that field :lol:

China invent rocket, Germany invent modern rocket, but nowadays it is US that lead rocket technology.

The fact said: it is korean LG and Samsung + now BOE china that lead in OLED, not Phillips :laugh:

Did you even read the website I gave you?

Do you even know How advance OLED technology Philips have?

LG and Samsung may be cheaper and more popular, that does not mean their technology is MORE advance than Philips or anyone else.

I like how you slide in China int he same league as LG and Samsung, when in reality, the Chinese is even still MILES behind LG and Samsung.


You said : "LCD is not generally use in many electronics such as TV and Mobile Phone or Computer Screen anymore" that is where I said you are wrong! why keep dodging? :lol:

And LED is backlid LCD means it is still LCD. LOL it is suprising Mr PHD has no clue about it :laugh: :lol:

Means: LED still widely available in the market break your false claim that LCD is not generally use in many electronics such as TV etc :laugh:

LOL LED is backlit LCD :omghaha::cuckoo:, you know LED is Light Emitting Diode, LCD is Liquid Crystallised Display, both are two different things, there exist the third thing call LED Back Lit LCD, that does not mean ALL LED is LCD...

Maybe it's time to catch up some knowledge?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LED-backlit_LCD

While not an LED display, a television using such a combination of an LED backlight with an LCD panel is called an LED TV by some manufacturers and suppliers

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Light-emitting_diode
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liquid-crystal_display

In the example I show, ALL LCD TV are LED Backlit LCD, again, if you don't believe me, go check it out yourself.

And not generally in used DOES NOT MEAN they are not in used, and I would consider 10 out of 68 TV you can buy is LED backlit LED is "NOT GENERALLY USED"

It is relative to say.

But if the progress is positive and beyond usual/normal it deserve to be called. So there is "Achievement".

So there is nothing wrong to say that China progress and BOE progress in display technology is achievement.

As I said, there are nothing wrong to say you can poop in a pooper is not a progress, of course you can give you son a medal for pooping in the pooper for the first time, it does not mean it is a proper achievement.[/quote]
 
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jhungary you r such a party pooper man. just let them have their super screen joy bro
 
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I don't know where you learn English to have this make sense. You literally said


It is your bad habit to always dodge the point :lol:

If my typo is your concern, then allow me to correct it: "When did I ever say BOE quality is better than Samsung? LOL

You can quote my statement that saying so...

I don't know where you learn English, if you say A offer something BETTER IN TERM OF QUALITY AND PRICE than B, which mean A have better quality than B.

Not to mention BOE had YET to break Samsung Dominant in LED market, as of Today, Samsung still hold around 90% of all LED production, and even at the article it said BOE can ONLY supply Apple with LED screen starting 2020, we are still in 2018.


Look at your grammar first before judging other .. :laugh:

Market domination is not always a parameter for quality and technology; but Apple choice on BOE is! It is only a matter of time for BOE to outcompete Samsung in the future.

You are demonstrating logical fallacy again due to dodging. :lol:


Did you even read the website I gave you?

Do you even know How advance OLED technology Philips have?

LG and Samsung may be cheaper and more popular, that does not mean their technology is MORE advance than Philips or anyone else.

I like how you slide in China int he same league as LG and Samsung, when in reality, the Chinese is even still MILES behind LG and Samsung.


LOL in what way Phillips OLED technology is more advanced than those from LG and Samsung? in your imagination? LOL.

Do you know that LG now is the leader in OLED technology? of course not from what you are claiming above :laugh:
https://www.businessinsider.com/sc/lg-oled-tv-experience-2018-5/?IR=T

Explain: why Apple choose BOE not Samsung or Phillips? if you said China is still miles away behind LG and Samsung?

LOL LED is backlit LCD :omghaha::cuckoo:, you know LED is Light Emitting Diode, LCD is Liquid Crystallised Display, both are two different things, there exist the third thing call LED Back Lit LCD, that does not mean ALL LED is LCD...

Maybe it's time to catch up some knowledge?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LED-backlit_LCD

LOL :omghaha::omghaha::omghaha::omghaha::omghaha:

No you are totally wrong!

LED TV IS NOT Light Emmitting Diode. Since when LED TV is Light Emitting Diode :laugh: :omghaha::cuckoo:

Find fact first before making claim! this will ruin you further :laugh:

Your wiki article clearly said that LED is backlid LCD not Light Emmitting Diode, why still persistent with faulty claim that is even busted by your own citation? :laugh: :lol:

Admit it you have poor knowledge and problem with reading comprehension :omghaha::omghaha::omghaha:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Light-emitting_diode
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liquid-crystal_display

In the example I show, ALL LCD TV are LED Backlit LCD, again, if you don't believe me, go check it out yourself.

And not generally in used DOES NOT MEAN they are not in used, and I would consider 10 out of 68 TV you can buy is LED backlit LED is "NOT GENERALLY USED"

Yes .. but LED TV is not Light Emitting Diode... LED TV in the market is "backlid LCD", while the LED display with Light Emitting Diode is another display which is only use for outdoor and commercial and it is minor share in the display market compared to LCD/LED TV.

This is LED (Light Emmiting Diode) display:
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and the resolution is bad, that is why it is not used by consumers, only for the commercial and outdoor purpose.

This is LED backlid TV:
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which is backlid LCD, and commonly used by consumer and dominate the TV market, and also dominate notebook and smartphone market!

Find fact first before make comment otherwise you will be laughing stock again .. :laugh:

As I said, there are nothing wrong to say you can poop in a pooper is not a progress, of course you can give you son a medal for pooping in the pooper for the first time, it does not mean it is a proper achievement.


Who said it is wrong. Of course it is not the case with BOE with OLED technology progress.

Your dodging is always funny LOL :laugh:
 
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BOE Smart Retail Solutions Strengthen European Market

Release time:2018-05-25

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On May 23rd, BOE Technology Group, a global leader in the semiconductor display industry as well as an IoT company providing intelligent interface products and professional services for information interaction and human health, and its French subsidiary SES-imagotag (Euronext: SESL, FR0010282822) launched a promoting event for smart retail solutions in European market in Paris, France.

SES-imagotag is the global leader in Electronic Shelf Labels (ESL) and retail IoT solutions. In June 2017, BOE announced to acquire more than 50.01% of SES-imagotag shares at a price of EURO30/share, through its subordinate BOE Smart Retail (Hong Kong) Co. Limited (SPV). Up to now, SPV has held 79.94% of SES-imagotag's outstanding shares.

Thierry Gadou, Chairman & CEO of SES-imagotag, had just presented the VUSION 2022 five-year strategic plan of the company aiming at strengthening SES-imagotag's retail IoT market leadership.

During the same period, Viva Technology, one of the world's most influential exhibitions dedicated to science and technology, was also held in Paris. At the exhibition, BOE and its subsidiary SES-imagotag showcased IoT-based smart retail solutions, combining digital labels, smart displays, sensors, computer vision and big data analytics, core enabler of this Retail IoT revolution.

Specifically, VUSION Retail IoT Cloud platform offers retailers a unique set of features to improve efficiency and enhance the in-store customer experience, through its advanced big data, consumer engagement, intelligent shelf and data analytics. Additionally, BOE also exhibited a range of innovative products such as a self-service juice vending machine applied with transparent display, 4K/8K UHD displays, a flexible AMOLED display, and BOE iGallery.

Yao Xiangjun, executive vice-president and Co-COO of BOE, said, "BOE focuses on the applications in segmented markets based on its advantages in display, AI, and sensor technologies. IoT-based smart retail solutions are intended to address pain points of retailers and consumers by improving operational efficiency and achieving seamless online and offline convergence."

http://www.boe.com/en/news/gsdt/dynamic/pengd1544.html
 
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I'm only tag you for updated new info, I don't mock anyone. don't become a cry baby here.

It's only a new info, even India is not called on that article (because it's irrelevant :lol:)
Why butt hurt so much? :D

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A month ago I picked up a HiSense 55" smart 4k tv for a fraction of what I would have had to pay for a Samsung.
The color is amazing. And so was the price.
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