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China’s screen manufacturers up their game as domestic OLED technology matures

Did I say they Weren't USE in TV? I said they are phased out. LCD still have their use, and LED and Plasma have indeed taken over TV industry (you either confused Plasma to LCD) I don't know about Indonesia or China,

in Australia, 28 over 31 TV sold in JB Hi-Fi over 65 inch is LED only 3 LCD

https://www.jbhifi.com.au/tvs/tvs-65-70/

Count it yourself.

26 of these 31 TVs have LED LCD displays

21 over 28 TV sold in JB Hi Fi between 55 to 60 inch is LED, only 7 are LCD

https://www.jbhifi.com.au/tvs/tvs-55-60/

25 of these 28 TVs have LED LCD displays

Count it yourself

9 over 9 TV sold in JB Hi-Fi between 45 to 55 inch is LED, none are LCD.

https://www.jbhifi.com.au/tvs/tvs-48-50/

Count it yourself.
All 9 of these have LED LCD displays

Now, I don't know about you, where I lived, 58 over 68 of all TV I would buy is LED. It may be different in Indonesia, I don't know maybe you guys are really that cheap and can only afford LCD TV, but as far as where I lived and where most developed world are, LCD TV WAS ALL BUT REPLACED.

Also, there are no AMOLED TV (Too thin to stretch out for over 50 inch) most TV are either LED or QLED.

Now, tell me which phone is still using LCD versus which phone is using AMOLED?

You may want to check what you say before you told other people being wrong. Otherwise you will ended up looking stupid...

Did you seriously use Crtl-F and typed in LCD? Of course you did. You counted precisely the productnames with the letters LCD appearing in their name.

Now because you like to play stupid I have to spell it out: Check the details tab on the product page where it says "Screen Type - LED LCD" all over the place. And you dont even have to count them. The page literally has a counter that tells you.

Even with the filters you cherrypicked because the results have less LCD in their name that is 88% LED LCD displays. Without filters 91% of this shops TVs have LED LCD displays. Wow thats a lot of liquid flowing around around the market.

Oh wait no. How does that even compute to marketshare? Vietnamese economics again? Nobody cares how many OLED TV models in various sizes are offered in some cherrypicked online shop. It about shipped units, sold units or turnover. You can't extrapolate anything of that from your "sample" and no one cares about your anecdotes.
 
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26 of these 31 TVs have LED LCD displays



25 of these 28 TVs have LED LCD displays


All 9 of these have LED LCD displays



Did you seriously use Crtl-F and typed in LCD then came back here and said others are looking stupid and they should check what they say before telling others they are wrong? Of course you did. You counted precisely the productnames with the letters LCD appearing their name.

Now because you like to play stupid I have to spell it out: Check the details tab on the product page where it says "Screen Type - LED LCD" all over the place. And you dont even have to count them. The page literally has a counter that tells you.

Even with the filters you cherrypicked because the results have less LCD in their name that is 88% LED LCD displays. Without filters 91% of this shops TVs have LED LCD displays.

And how does that even compute to marketshare? Vietnamese economics again? Nobody cares how many OLED TV models in various sizes are offered in some cherrypicked online shop. It about shipped units, sold units or turnover. You can't extrapolate anything of that from your "sample".
He already got busted for copy n paste and not reading what he posts many times by @antonius123 and others
 
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He already got busted for copy n paste and not reading what he posts many times by @antonius123 and others

His reputation has been tarnished badly over the weeks. I almost felt sorry for it. Kudos to @antonius123 for patience.

A month ago I picked up a HiSense 55" smart 4k tv for a fraction of what I would have had to pay for a Samsung.
The color is amazing. And so was the price.
:tup:

It is a Qingdao company. Last time I was there, I just passed by their HQ (now there is anew metro line. Development so fast). :enjoy:
 
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It is your bad habit to always dodge the point :lol:

If my typo is your concern, then allow me to correct it: "When did I ever say BOE quality is better than Samsung? LOL

You can quote my statement that saying so...

As I said, what you type is

"That means BOE is offering better in term of quality & price."

Not really care if that is a typo or any sort of mistake, that is what you type, or you are going to say you never type it?

If that is what you type, by the English Definition, it mean BOE is offering BETTER IN TERM OF QUALITY, than Samsung, the current supplier to Apple Screen.



Look at your grammar first before judging other .. :laugh:

I never talked about grammar, that is what you said, you LITERALLY said that, I don't really care about grammar when I type, so what? This is not the first time nor the last time I say this here.

Market domination is not always a parameter for quality and technology; but Apple choice on BOE is! It is only a matter of time for BOE to outcompete Samsung in the future.

You are demonstrating logical fallacy again due to dodging. :lol:

Again, you said

That means BOE is offering better in term of quality & price.

Which mean BOE is offering better BOTH QUALITY and PRICE TO APPLE, I don't know where you learn your English, it mean BOE are offering BETTER QUALITY PRODUCT THAN WHOEVER suppling the Apple now.

If you said BOE is offering better Quality FOR Price, then yes, you are not talking about BOE Quality better than Samsung, but that is not what you said.



LOL in what way Phillips OLED technology is more advanced than those from LG and Samsung? in your imagination? LOL.

Do you know that LG now is the leader in OLED technology? of course not from what you are claiming above :laugh:
https://www.businessinsider.com/sc/lg-oled-tv-experience-2018-5/?IR=T

Explain: why Apple choose BOE not Samsung or Phillips? if you said China is still miles away behind LG and Samsung?

Since when did Apple choose BOE? Do tell me when did that happen lol :laugh::laugh: In your dream?

The article is talking about BOE CAN supplies screen to Apple in 2020, not BOE securing contract to supply screen to Apple in 2020. Those are different.

As to in what way Philips is better in OLED technology than some SK and Japanese, read the list and see what kind of technology they offer, I am not going to help you out if you are lazy


LOL :omghaha::omghaha::omghaha::omghaha::omghaha:

No you are totally wrong!

LED TV IS NOT Light Emmitting Diode. Since when LED TV is Light Emitting Diode :laugh: :omghaha::cuckoo:

Find fact first before making claim! this will ruin you further :laugh:

Your wiki article clearly said that LED is backlid LCD not Light Emmitting Diode, why still persistent with faulty claim that is even busted by your own citation? :laugh: :lol:

Admit it you have poor knowledge and problem with reading comprehension :omghaha::omghaha::omghaha:
Yes .. but LED TV is not Light Emitting Diode... LED TV in the market is "backlid LCD", while the LED display with Light Emitting Diode is another display which is only use for outdoor and commercial and it is minor share in the display market compared to LCD/LED TV.

This is LED (Light Emmiting Diode) display:
P10-Penuh-Warna-LED-Display-layar-Iklan-luar-air-bukti-kabinet-ukuran-96-cm-96-cm.jpg_640x640.jpg


and the resolution is bad, that is why it is not used by consumers, only for the commercial and outdoor purpose.

This is LED backlid TV:
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which is backlid LCD, and commonly used by consumer and dominate the TV market, and also dominate notebook and smartphone market!

Find fact first before make comment otherwise you will be laughing stock again .. :laugh:

WOw,seems like a whole not of nothing from you.

You do know there are 3 type of screen out there, LED (include AMOLED, QLED) LCD, and LED Backlit LCD screen.

LED backlit LCD TV, as per the definition in Wikipedia IS NOT a LED TV. However, ALL LED TV is in some sort as a LCD screen, that is because LCD is actually the screen that filter the light, LCD in itself does not lit up, you need the backlit panel to do that job, in LCD TV, it uses CCFL backlit technology, in LED TV, but instead of using CCFL, where LCD is using, they use Light Emitted Diode, hence it is called LED TV.

LED backlit LCD is another concept, which according to Cnet, it is basically a different configuration of LED layout on the backlit, instead of laying it out on all 4 side, it evenly distributed like CCFL backlit, but instead of cold diode, they use LED. Hence it was called LED backlit LCD TV

https://www.cnet.com/news/led-lcd-backlights-explained/



https://www.rtings.com/tv/learn/lcd-vs-led-vs-plasma/how-they-work

An LED screen is actually an LCD screen, but instead of having a normal CCFL backlight, it uses light-emitting diodes (LEDs) as a source of light behind the screen. An LED is more energy efficient and a lot smaller than a CCFL, enabling a thinner television screen. Marketing made a lot of fuss about LED TVs, but it is only the backlight that changed, so there is actually no picture quality improvement over a normal LCD screen

So, your first claim "LED TV is not Light Emitted Diode" is, well WRONG. All TV are backlit by LED, it does not matter which one you are talking about, all LED, LCD, QLED TV are LED backlit LCD, nobody ever use CCFL anymore.

As for anything else. Well, read the reference I gave you instead of just show me some picture for a better understand of what's what.

I have no time for people who just burst out verbal diarrhea. Read and Come back to me, if you don't read, then don't talk about stuff you didn't know.

Also, there are NO BACKLIT LCD, LCD is a filter display, it does not lit up by itself.

You either are using Backlit CCFL or LED

Who said it is wrong. Of course it is not the case with BOE with OLED technology progress.

Your dodging is always funny LOL :laugh:

Again, you can give your son a medal for pooping in the pooper, that may be a progress, that does not equate to "Achievement" and if you do see it as an "Achievement" then you are no more than a Attention Whore.

Because as I see it, EVERYBODY POOPED. just because that is your first poop, that does not mean it is an achievement.

As for BOE and Samsung, well, it wasn't even in the same field and same level of competition, how can you achieve something THAT DOES NOT EXIST is beyond me, but hey, I am not you, maybe I don't see it that way.

26 of these 31 TVs have LED LCD displays



25 of these 28 TVs have LED LCD displays


All 9 of these have LED LCD displays

First, I don't know if you know what is LED LCD display? If you are talking about any of these TV have a LCD screen in it? Then I will save you some time, ALL OF THEM are using LCD Screen, LED and LCD is different thing, LED is the thing you use to lit up your TV, LCD is the thing you filter the screen.

As for what is LED LCD TV? I have explained it above, read it don't read it, believe it, don't believe it is up to you. but not 26 of 31 TV screen is LED LCD TV.


Did you seriously use Crtl-F and typed in LCD? Of course you did. You counted precisely the productnames with the letters LCD appearing in their name.

Now because you like to play stupid I have to spell it out: Check the details tab on the product page where it says "Screen Type - LED LCD" all over the place. And you dont even have to count them. The page literally has a counter that tells you.

Even with the filters you cherrypicked because the results have less LCD in their name that is 88% LED LCD displays. Without filters 91% of this shops TVs have LED LCD displays. Wow thats a lot of liquid flowing around around the market.

Again, if you need to put it this way, 100% of the TV in the world have LCD screen in it, again LCD and LED are two different thing

LCD definition as per Wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liquid-crystal_display

A liquid-crystal display (LCD) is a flat-panel display or other electronically modulated optical device that uses the light-modulating properties of liquid crystals. Liquid crystals do not emit light directly, instead using a backlight or reflector to produce images in color or monochrome.

LED on the other hand, defined as per Wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Light-emitting_diode

A light-emitting diode (LED) is a two-lead semiconductor light source. It is a p–n junction diode that emits light when activated.[5] When a suitable current is applied to the leads,[6][7] electrons are able to recombine with electron holes within the device, releasing energy in the form of photons.

If you are talking about LED vs LCD, you cannot compare both, one is a backlit element, the other is a reflector/filter. You need to have both to make a digital TV.

On the other hand, LED TV and LED backlit LCD is different technology, as I said, I have explained before, believe it or not is up to you, or if you can come up with another definition, I am more than willing to hear it.

Oh wait no. How does that even compute to marketshare? Vietnamese economics again? Nobody cares how many OLED TV models in various sizes are offered in some cherrypicked online shop. It about shipped units, sold units or turnover. You can't extrapolate anything of that from your "sample" and no one cares about your anecdotes.

umm, first of all, those are ALL the product that shop is selling, and second of all, that is the biggest electronic store in Australia, it's not two bit store which you can use to cherry-pick.

And yes, since we are talking about ALL of the market, we can use it to explain the market share.

Wow I found another thread where @jhungary is being a complete idiot.

lol. you bound to find a lot of "thread" I am an idiot or being "exposed" by your fellow Chinese.

but well, it all happen in this section and this section alone, and when it is true, does that mean I am an idiot? Or you lot are?

LOL :partay::partay::dance3:
 
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As I said, what you type is

"That means BOE is offering better in term of quality & price."

Not really care if that is a typo or any sort of mistake, that is what you type, or you are going to say you never type it?

If that is what you type, by the English Definition, it mean BOE is offering BETTER IN TERM OF QUALITY, than Samsung, the current supplier to Apple Screen.


I never talked about grammar, that is what you said, you LITERALLY said that, I don't really care about grammar when I type, so what? This is not the first time nor the last time I say this here.



Again, you said

That means BOE is offering better in term of quality & price.

Which mean BOE is offering better BOTH QUALITY and PRICE TO APPLE, I don't know where you learn your English, it mean BOE are offering BETTER QUALITY PRODUCT THAN WHOEVER suppling the Apple now.

If you said BOE is offering better Quality FOR Price, then yes, you are not talking about BOE Quality better than Samsung, but that is not what you said.


You are explaining to long for a very simple point :D

BOE is offering quality at least as good as Samsung/LG with cheaper price.



Since when did Apple choose BOE? Do tell me when did that happen lol :laugh::laugh: In your dream?

The article is talking about BOE CAN supplies screen to Apple in 2020, not BOE securing contract to supply screen to Apple in 2020. Those are different.

As to in what way Philips is better in OLED technology than some SK and Japanese, read the list and see what kind of technology they offer, I am not going to help you out if you are lazy


BOE already supplies LCD panels for iPads and MacBooks, so it has experience working with Apple. Not to mention that it is the #1 supplier of large LCDs in the world.
https://www.gsmarena.com/apple_repo...ed_displays_for_future_iphones-news-32370.php


WOw,seems like a whole not of nothing from you.

You do know there are 3 type of screen out there, LED (include AMOLED, QLED) LCD, and LED Backlit LCD screen.


Totally Wrong!

AMOLED and QLED is not LED screen, and they are not dominating the TV market yet.

LED screen is not dominating TV market at all, far from that.

LED backlit LCD TV, as per the definition in Wikipedia IS NOT a LED TV. However, ALL LED TV is in some sort as a LCD screen, that is because LCD is actually the screen that filter the light, LCD in itself does not lit up, you need the backlit panel to do that job, in LCD TV, it uses CCFL backlit technology, in LED TV, but instead of using CCFL, where LCD is using, they use Light Emitted Diode, hence it is called LED TV.

LED backlit LCD is another concept, which according to Cnet, it is basically a different configuration of LED layout on the backlit, instead of laying it out on all 4 side, it evenly distributed like CCFL backlit, but instead of cold diode, they use LED. Hence it was called LED backlit LCD TV


But still ... it is a LCD screen, not LED screen as you thought.

So what you said: "LCD is not generally use in many electronics such as TV and Mobile Phone or Computer Screen anymore" is totally WRONG!

So, your first claim "LED TV is not Light Emitted Diode" is, well WRONG. All TV are backlit by LED, it does not matter which one you are talking about, all LED, LCD, QLED TV are LED backlit LCD, nobody ever use CCFL anymore.

As for anything else. Well, read the reference I gave you instead of just show me some picture for a better understand of what's what.

I have no time for people who just burst out verbal diarrhea. Read and Come back to me, if you don't read, then don't talk about stuff you didn't know.

Also, there are NO BACKLIT LCD, LCD is a filter display, it does not lit up by itself.

You either are using Backlit CCFL or LED


No I am not wrong! it is you who are wrong and still not aware where is the mistake.

It is "LED screen" that use LED for the screed. Meantime what people usually call "LED TV" is actually LED backlid LCD screen/display and it is still LCD.

So all the TV samples that you bragged when you claim that LED is dominating the market is still actually LCD, and that prove what I am saying that LCD is still dominating market, not outdated screen as you thought or claimed!


Again, you can give your son a medal for pooping in the pooper, that may be a progress, that does not equate to "Achievement" and if you do see it as an "Achievement" then you are no more than a Attention Whore.

Because as I see it, EVERYBODY POOPED. just because that is your first poop, that does not mean it is an achievement.

As for BOE and Samsung, well, it wasn't even in the same field and same level of competition, how can you achieve something THAT DOES NOT EXIST is beyond me, but hey, I am not you, maybe I don't see it that way.


As I said before: Apple purchase is a good evidence to show that BOE is at least on par with LG/Samsung in term of quality. And this is achievement, as none of US/EU/Japanese/Taiwanese LCD maker can break this.

How many time should I repeat this? Be a little bit smarter please ..


First, I don't know if you know what is LED LCD display? If you are talking about any of these TV have a LCD screen in it? Then I will save you some time, ALL OF THEM are using LCD Screen, LED and LCD is different thing, LED is the thing you use to lit up your TV, LCD is the thing you filter the screen.

As for what is LED LCD TV? I have explained it above, read it don't read it, believe it, don't believe it is up to you. but not 26 of 31 TV screen is LED LCD TV.


Of course he know what is LED backlid LCD, that was why he is laughing at you and understand what I was correcting you when you claim LCD is outdated while LED screen is now dominating the market ... silly :laugh:
 
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You are explaining to long for a very simple point :D

BOE is offering quality at least as good as Samsung/LG with cheaper price.






BOE already supplies LCD panels for iPads and MacBooks, so it has experience working with Apple. Not to mention that it is the #1 supplier of large LCDs in the world.
https://www.gsmarena.com/apple_repo...ed_displays_for_future_iphones-news-32370.php





Totally Wrong!

AMOLED and QLED is not LED screen, and they are not dominating the TV market yet.

LED screen is not dominating TV market at all, far from that.




But still ... it is a LCD screen, not LED screen as you thought.

So what you said: "LCD is not generally use in many electronics such as TV and Mobile Phone or Computer Screen anymore" is totally WRONG!




No I am not wrong! it is you who are wrong and still not aware where is the mistake.

It is "LED screen" that use LED for the screed. Meantime what people usually call "LED TV" is actually LED backlid LCD screen/display and it is still LCD.

So all the TV samples that you bragged when you claim that LED is dominating the market is still actually LCD, and that prove what I am saying that LCD is still dominating market, not outdated screen as you thought or claimed!





As I said before: Apple purchase is a good evidence to show that BOE is at least on par with LG/Samsung in term of quality. And this is achievement, as none of US/EU/Japanese/Taiwanese LCD maker can break this.

How many time should I repeat this? Be a little bit smarter please ..





Of course he know what is LED backlid LCD, that was why he is laughing at you and understand what I was correcting you when you claim LCD is outdated while LED screen is now dominating the market ... silly :laugh:
Damn, you really flaying this professional apart. Not even the mods will step in to defend his reading comprehension skills.
 
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First, I don't know if you know what is LED LCD display?
Well you demonstrably don't know what you are talking about, that's for sure.

If you are talking about any of these TV have a LCD screen in it? Then I will save you some time, ALL OF THEM are using LCD Screen
Wow isn't that almost exactly what I just said (26, 25, all) and the opposite of what you claimed at first (only 3, only 7, none are)? You do remember, this is about you making up stuff to downplay the LCD industry because you are angry that China is said to dominate LCD manufacturing? "LCD is not generally use in many electronics such as TV" and all that verbal diarrea you"explained" to us, before you tumbled to some arbitrarily made up Vietnamese semantics no one in the real world uses and are just construed out of your layman ignorance, dishonesty and severe illiteracy making you unable to understand the links you keep dumping between tangentially related nonsense produced by yourself? Remember?

Except I said 91% have LED LCD screens not all (88% in your cherrypicked selection). The rest are OLED TVs. Those are not LCDs.

You flip flop 180 degree on your entire premise, try to parrot what I just told you as if you knew and still manage to get it wrong?

, LED and LCD is different thing, LED is the thing you use to lit up your TV
Wow! The light emitting diode is used to emit light? Thanks professor! And an apple is a different thing than an orange and a fire is something you use to heat up your food. Why do you keep wasting our time repetitively "explaining" tangential trivia to people that didn't get anything about it wrong, nor gave any cue they wouldn't know or worse obviously know more than what you just tried to parrot from Google, half the time incorrectly on top of that?

As for what is LED LCD TV? I have explained it above, read it don't read it, believe it, don't believe it is up to you.
Well it was up to you to continue pretend you actually believe the verbal diarrea you posted so far to use your kind of vocuabulary or just move on and pretend it never happend and try fooling someone somewhere else.

but not 26 of 31 TV screen is LED LCD TV.
It literally stands on the page you posted. You may believe in the power of believing. I tell you to go back and read the f*cking page.


Again, if you need to put it this way, 100% of the TV in the world have LCD screen in it,
Just, no. That's like saying "if you put it this way Teslas have combustion engines in them". It's just absurd nonsense. You have just no f*cking clue what you are talking about.

again LCD and LED are two different thing
Again apples and oranges are two different things. Yes and? Never said they are the same. You have just no fucking clue what you are talking about.

LCD definition as per Wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liquid-crystal_display

LED on the other hand, defined as per Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penguin
Penguins on the other hand, defined as per Wikipedia

And on the other hand Your Wiki links don't contradict me one bit.
Maybe read and understand the f*cking pages you keep posting.


If you are talking about LED vs LCD, you cannot compare both, one is a backlit element, the other is a reflector/filter. You need to have both to make a digital TV.
Again just, no. This kind of nonsense is nowhere written, implied or somehow conclusively stated in those Wikipages in the way you keep trying but failing to "explain" it. Its just the most used technology around. Which is kinda missing the whole point of denying it. You have just no fucking clue what you are talking about.

On the other hand, LED TV and LED backlit LCD is different technology, as I said, I have explained before, believe it or not is up to you, or if you can come up with another definition, I am more than willing to hear it.
Again, these arbitrary definitions you came up with aren't used by anyone except yourself. Why should we care?

Your Wikipedia articles, your news articles you keep dumping just do not match with your personal opinion, missconceptions and missreading you drop on top of them. I can dump Wikipedia links to fruits and gardening tools on Wikipedia and "explain" how the spade is a banana all day. Its still a spade. Everyone calls it a spade. The shop you posted calls it a spade. You are the only one insisting on insisting its not a spade screaming bananas are not spades, yet sometimes it somehow seems to become a spade in principle but still doesnt count because China made a lot of spades.

Im unwilling to believe it's just purely that you don't understand.
The shop literally tells me in the specs its a LED LCD? Its very likely a f*cking LCD.
The handbook of the screen tells me its a LED LCD? Its very likely a f*cking LCD.
You dont need an PHD to tell. That's how hundred millions of people manage to accquire LCD TVs by choice and ten millions manage to specifically avoid LCD TVs and buy e.g. more exotic OLED TVs instead. We are talking theory? Is it a display? It relies on the conventional LC layer architecture to controll the backlight, regardles what is controlling the crystals, regardless of the backlight architecture or whats in front of the LC layer. Its a f*cking LCD. The name is is pretty much selfdefining and you manage to fail even at that part.

Ever considered admitting you just have no f*cking clue what you are talking about?
What are the odds? You are wrong or the rest of the world?

umm, first of all, those are ALL the product that shop is selling,
uhm first of all, once again just no. You filtered the products from +110 TVs down to 68 using 3 standard resolution filters. It literally shows the filters you used in the 3 URLs you posted
https://www.jbhifi.com.au/tvs/tvs-65-70/
https://www.jbhifi.com.au/tvs/tvs-55-60/
https://www.jbhifi.com.au/tvs/tvs-48-50/

That's not ALL the products the shop is selling. That's not even ALL the products with screens the shop is selling. Thats not even all the TVs this shop is selling. Do you even understand how that site works?

Second of all, as pointed out before you got 50 out of 68 TVs WRONG because you are unable to read. Well maybe you are just lying or have other issues, we don't know. Its wrong either way.
and second of all, that is the biggest electronic store in Australia, it's not two bit store which you can use to cherry-pick.

And yes, since we are talking about ALL of the market, we can use it to explain the market share.
Third you got to be kidding me? How is a subset of 68 TVs out of of over a hundred offered TVs, out of far over a hundred articles with digital displays sold in some random *** Australian online shop, in any meaningfull way indicative for the global market share of produced or shipped LCD screens, when there is no indicator how many of these articles are actually sold besides some vague *** "at least some"? How do you extrapolate product variants into sales or shipped units? That shop offers 50% more Samsung phone variants than Apple phone variants, does that mean Sasmsung sells 50% more in your make believe fantasies?

Nevermind as pointed out nearly all of the shops TVs do have LED LCD screens. You should be the one screaming its unrepresentative in defense of your denial that LCD is still a widespread technology? Which is it?
 
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