China’s Jinbei to build vehicle production plant in Pakistan

[CHI RULES]

The Faw case is there with some stability, but many Chinese companies attempts are unsuccessful due to following reasons.

1- Perception of general public regarding quality/concerns.
2-Monopoly/Mafia of few big companies in Pakistan i.e Suzuki, Toyota.
3-Lack of Marketing, sale points and after sale services.
4-Wrong targeting/ non anticipation of real target market.

If any Chinese company wants sincerely to enter in Pak market they should first establish sale/service points first in major cities backed by massive media marketing. On other hand they should have tools to counter below Monopoly related challenges.

On other had instead of targeting upper class or commercial transport they should first target middle level income groups with provision of a vehicle better than Mehran in price range of 5-6 Lac.

First build your credibility at lower level then go for higher end.

 

[Sucha Kuggu]

Quality and Indian are two separate things...they don't get together, though the cosmetics are good, what lies beneath the bonnet, beneath that cosmetics are crap and worst quality in safety, no wonder more Indians die in road accidents than any other country, about 1.6 lacs per year...


5 top Indian cars fail global NCAP safety test


The most notable four-wheeler names such as Hyundai Eon, Maruti Suzuki Eeco, Maruti Celerio, Mahindra Scorpio and three models of Renault Kwid failed in crash tests carried by Global New Car Assessment Programme (NCAP).

These seven cars scored zero stars for adults on safety parameters when these were crashed at 64 kmph speed.

"The Renault Kwid, Maruti Suzuki Celerio, Maruti Suzuki Eeco, Mahindra Scorpio and Hyundai Eon all showed low levels of adult occupant protection," said a statement from a UK-based safety watchdog.

https://www.firstpost.com/business/...26rm-V3-w44V0Y5PLodAdYjVpXZYbqb8aAn7VEALw_wcB

Real crown in India's Auto Industry is TATA NANO. Its HINDU CAR, as they may not like to admit.

 

[Khaqan Humayun]

Chinese investment in Pakistan is good sign for Pakistan.
If one can not do any good for Pakistan so they must keep quit,
What was the price of honda 70cc bike in 1998 65,000/=
Sudden price went down when Chines bikes interned in the Pakistani Markets.

Same goes with spear parts.

What Suzuki is doing in Our Market very low cost cheep cars selling on high price have we ever think about Suzuki Mahran Bolan and Ravi??? unsafe uncomfortable products of Suzuki on High price.

After China brand FAW and other Suzuki had to change their looting style now they are planing to work in Pakistan.

 

[Adam WANG SHANGHAI MEGA]

China FAW

 

[Khaqan Humayun]

FAW and BYD full electrical bus should be introduced to Pakistan.
I have been on full electrical bus multiple times it is quieter and more confortable!

https://timgsa.baidu.com/timg?image&quality=80&size=b9999_10000&sec=1530282466784&di=e4205e74ce05208cd4a537ff39136aca&imgtype=jpg&src=http://img2.imgtn.bdimg.com/it/u=2532441997,1618466021&fm=214&gp=0.jpg

These are the best products.........I have seen Chinese Buses in Saudia Arabia Kinglong Bus that has almost replaced Mursides Buses from the Kingdom.

 

[Adam WANG SHANGHAI MEGA]

Quieter and more confortable is indeed but the price is much higher than conventionnal bus.

 

[Adam WANG SHANGHAI MEGA]

China Jinbei Automobile （金杯）launched 2018 SUV: Jinbei S70, guided price of 79 800-113 800 yuan RMB
Motor infso 2018-11-24 11:22

Appearance: The appearance of the design is younger, and the appearance of individuality has been well received by people.

Front face: The front face adopts a new family design language, which is simple and clean.

Tail: The tail shape is full and honest, it is definitely the latest design concept.

Dimensions: length, width and height are 4745/1856/1710mm, and the wheelbase is 2725mm.

Interior: The interior has been greatly changed, featuring a sporting atmosphere and a technological experience.

Engine: It adopts a 1.5T engine with a maximum horsepower of 154 hp and a maximum torque of 220 Nm.

These are the best products.........I have seen Chinese Buses in Saudia Arabia Kinglong Bus that has almost replaced Mursides Buses from the Kingdom.

True.Especially BYD group,they have sold dozens of thousands full electrical bus all over the world America and europe included!

King Long is actullay 2rd tieer Bus manufacturer in China but is still very powerful already!
Millions of King Long buses run on China's highways and major cities.

 

[jupiter2007]

Chinese usually copy 5 years old design.
I think Pakistan should ask them to build the plant in Pakistan with 50% technology transfer.

 

[MultaniGuy]

Good news. We need to do more cooperation with China in all industries.

 

[Adam WANG SHANGHAI MEGA]

Chinese usually copy 5 years old design.
I think Pakistan should ask them to build the plant in Pakistan with 50% technology transfer.

Where did CHINA copy the world first quantum satellite from?

 

[jupiter2007]

Where did CHINA copy the world first quantum satellite from?

Just because technology is not out in public, it doesn’t mean that it doesn’t exist. Americans are already working on tomorrow’s technology and if it comes out in public, all Chinese technology will look antique.

Chinese are number one in hacking and stealing information from different companies. They are doing that because they’re smart people, but not Innovative. Indians are also smart and they are famous for cheating.......IRS TAX scam, Microsoft virus scam, gaming scam, and immigration scam, etc. Also for rape and lack of toilets.

 

[Adam WANG SHANGHAI MEGA]

Just because technology is not out in public, it doesn’t mean that it doesn’t exist. Americans are already working on tomorrow’s technology and if it comes out in public, all Chinese technology will look antique.

Chinese are number one in hacking and stealing information from different companies. They are doing that because they’re smart people, but not Innovative. Indians are also smart and they are famous for cheating.......IRS TAX scam, Microsoft virus scam, gaming scam, and immigration scam, etc. Also for rape and lack of toilets.

Except for brainwashing by BBC and CNN, you have no evidences at all. Paid technology transfer and hacking are two things.
China Huawei pays tens of billions of dollars in patent fees to Qualcomm and Erisson every year for 2G and 3G patents(Huawei is number one in 4G and 5G patents). These Western media have never reported.

I believe that just like the US government, as long as you feel that we Chinese are guilty, then we Chinese must be guilty.


Just like Huawei, everyone is talking about Huawei's theft technology. Huawei is being accused of stealing Western technology and performing espionage since forever But in the past 18 years, no company and government have produced any evidence.
Most of them are talking like this: We have reason to believe that Huawei is; we believe that Huawei;Huawei has the opportunity to; Huawei has the ability; Huawei's president was formerly a member of the People's Liberation Army; and Huawei has accepted loans from Chinese state-owned banks (in fact, US companies in China also get loans and open account in Chinese state-owned banks in China, So American companies are Chinese spies?), etc.;

On the contrary, thanks to Edward Snowden, we now have clear evidence that the US government is closely monitoring global governments, organizations and corporate institutions around the world through a variety of espionage projects (including prism projects), and Huawei is also been intruded by US Federal Bureau of Investigation and CIA ; at the same time, the US government has also closely monitored and espioned its allies such as Germany and France, including monitoring and espionage of German Chancellor Merkel and his ministerial officials’ mobile phones....

 

[jupiter2007]

Except for brainwashing by BBC and CNN, you have no evidences at all. Paid technology transfer and hacking are two things.
China Huawei pays tens of billions of dollars in patent fees to Qualcomm and Erisson every year for 2G and 3G patents(Huawei is number one 1 44 and 5G patents). These Western media have never reported.

I believe that just like the US government, as long as you feel that we Chinese are guilty, then we Chinese must be guilty.


Just like Huawei, everyone is talking about Huawei's theft technology. Huawei is being accused of stealing Western technology and performing espionage since forever But in the past 18 years, no company and government have produced any evidence.
Most of them are talking like this: We have reason to believe that Huawei is; we believe that Huawei;Huawei has the opportunity to; Huawei has the ability; Huawei's president was formerly a member of the People's Liberation Army; and Huawei has accepted loans from Chinese state-owned banks (in fact, US companies in China also get loans and open account in Chinese state-owned banks in China, So American companies are Chinese spies?), etc.;

On the contrary, thanks to Edward Snowden, we now have clear evidence that the US government is closely monitoring global governments, organizations and corporate institutions around the world through a variety of espionage projects (including prism projects), and Huawei is also been intruded by US Federal Bureau of Investigation and CIA ; at the same time, the US government has also closely monitored and espioned its allies such as Germany and France, including monitoring and espionage of German Chancellor Merkel and his ministerial officials’ mobile phones....

Now Chinese are buying German companies because they can't hack and steal technology.

 

[Adam WANG SHANGHAI MEGA]

Now Chinese are buying German companies because they can't hack and steal technology.

Thanks to Edward Snowden, we now have clear evidence that the US government is closely monitoring global governments, organizations and corporate institutions around the world through a variety of espionage projects (including prism projects), and Huawei is also been intruded by US Federal Bureau of Investigation and CIA ; at the same time, the US government has also closely monitored and espioned its allies such as Germany and France, including monitoring and espionage of German Chancellor Merkel and his ministerial officials’ mobile phones....

 

[Adam WANG SHANGHAI MEGA]

The Faw case is there with some stability, but many Chinese companies attempts are unsuccessful due to following reasons.

1- Perception of general public regarding quality/concerns.
2-Monopoly/Mafia of few big companies in Pakistan i.e Suzuki, Toyota.
3-Lack of Marketing, sale points and after sale services.
4-Wrong targeting/ non anticipation of real target market.

If any Chinese company wants sincerely to enter in Pak market they should first establish sale/service points first in major cities backed by massive media marketing. On other hand they should have tools to counter below Monopoly related challenges.

On other had instead of targeting upper class or commercial transport they should first target middle level income groups with provision of a vehicle better than Mehran in price range of 5-6 Lac.

First build your credibility at lower level then go for higher end.

Well said,this is the thing need to do for chinese car brand!

Now Chinese are buying German companies because they can't hack and steal technology.

Keep think this way,we chinese can not innovate,we are not a threat to anyone.
Keep quiet dude,we chinese are making artificial SUN to produce eternal energy, do not let western countries know that!