China’s J-10B Fighter More Advanced Than Indian Su-30, Japanese F-15J aircraft: Chinese Expert

[Irfan Baloch]

your comment always amuse me.meanwhile you've forgot Rafale,EFT,F-15SE and Su-35 and possibly Mig-35,other leading 4++ gens.I'm don't even thinking about comparing with a 5th gen.

by the way,thats what I call truly D!ck m3asuring..why would he bother to compare it with SU-30 MKI when he has his own country's J-11 to compare??

J-10A can be comparable with F-16 Block E/F,according to experts.J-10B may be comparable with F-16 block 60,and thats it.no need to compare it with aircrafts with which its spec isn't comparable.thats true obsession.

comparing it even with F-16 block 52 is stretching it. the only block 60s that exist among select countries will outclass it in every aspect.

 

[55100864]

comparing it even with F-16 block 52 is stretching it. the only block 60s that exist among select countries will outclass it in every aspect.

Mr Cwhatever terrorist, It would be nice if you can provide evidence to back up your claim, otherwise don't fart.

 

[volatile]

AT least it is functional and flying with many active squadron unlike samajh tu app sub log gaye honge

 

[kurup]

AT least it is functional and flying with many active squadron unlike samajh tu app sub log gaye honge

So is MKI as well as F15-J .

 

[Wasteland]

your comment always amuse me.meanwhile you've forgot Rafale,EFT,F-15SE and Su-35 and possibly Mig-35,other leading 4++ gens.I'm don't even thinking about comparing with a 5th gen..

Su-35 is shit, it's no different than the Su-30MKI. the only difference is the Su-35's Irbis-E radar with 400km range, and the Su-30's MKI PESA radar also has a range of 400km, but the Irbis-E is slightly better for detecting smaller RCS and jamming resistance.

India will not buy Su-35, even Russia itself is not convinced with it, that's why they chose the practical solution, the Su-30's SM upgrade and developing the T-50 PAK FA / Indian FGFA whatsoever. India will not buy Su-35 when they are participating in the more advanced T-50 PAK FA.

 

[volatile]

So is MKI as well as F15-J .

All are in different class

 

[Zarvan]

China’s J-10B fighter is more advanced than the Su-30 and the F-15J aircraft in service with India and Japan respectively and the 3.5 generation American fighters deployed in the Asia-Pacific.

A Chinese expert quoted in China Military Online claimed that the medium-scale 3.5-generation J-10B fighter has 19 tons of maximum take-off weight, a bomb load between 6 and 8 tons, a combat radius of about 1,000 kilometres and a flight speed between 1 and 1.5 mach.

The J-10B fighter is equipped with active electronically scanning phased-array radar and is capable of carrying beyond visual range air-to-air missiles. Zhang Zhaozhong, a military expert at the National Defense University (NDU) was quoted as saying that the J-10B fighter is at least 30 per cent better than the J-10A fighter in overall performance.

The lower nose of the J-10B fighter allows pilots to have a broader field of vision, and the active phased-array radar with a diameter of about one meter mounted inside the oblate nose part of the fighter, electronic jammer and searching and tracking device mounted outside the fighter cabin, upgrade the fighter’s electronic information system performance, Zhang was quoted as saying.

In addition to short-range dogfight ammunition, the J-10B fighter can carry medium-range interception missiles with a firing range of tens of kilometres, and at the same time, it is capable of attacking ground targets.

Therefore, its combat effectiveness is upgraded with an overall performance improvement of over 30 percent as compared with that of the J-10A fighter, Zhang introduced.

China’s J-10B Fighter More Advanced Than Indian Su-30, Japanese F-15J aircraft: Chinese Expert

Well I will still say Pakistan along with JF-17 and F-16 should for these jets too as many as they can

 

[Irfan Baloch]

Mr Cwhatever terrorist, It would be nice if you can provide evidence to back up your claim, otherwise don't fart.

I am merely reacting to the outrageous claim of that expert.
F-16 program is a success story for decades, its latest block carries the avionics that are comparable to the JSF program.. its combat and exercise record is unparalleled.
as for J-10 all we have is some adulterated videos from top gun and some careful flight display during the airshows. it might be good, on paper it says it is .. but claiming that its better than the two most iconic heavy weights i.e SU-30 and F-15? well thats where I think where the problem is.

over to you

 

[kurup]

All are in different class

Only the J10 belong to different class - medium .

Both MKI and F15 are heavy fighters .

 

[GR!FF!N]

Su-35 is shit

it is not.and it is quite different than SU-30 MKI.ours are completely custom designed using Russian,French and Israeli components,while SU-35 is Russian.and SU-35 is quite advanced than Su-30 MKI.but its true,we're not going to buy SU-35 as we're going to modify our SU-30 MKi to Super 30 Standard as well as going to buy FGFA.

by the way,there ae reports that China is buying some.

comparing it even with F-16 block 52 is stretching it. the only block 60s that exist among select countries will outclass it in every aspect.

of course.UAE got F-16 Block 60,and thats a beast.I'm merely stating opinions from some expert that J-10A was somewhat comparable to F-16 block C/D.much is not known about J-10s performance.I personally don't believe it.but then again,Pakistani members would know best as they are operating it for long time.

 

[sancho]

Only the J10 belong to different class - medium .

Both MKI and F15 are heavy fighters .

But weight class doesn't make a fighter superior or inferior, techs and capabilities do. It shouldn't be that surprising if the J10 is more maneuverable in dogfights compared to the F15, based on the advantages of the delta canard design, but that's as far as we can compare it. We don't know much about it's radar, it's RCS, or EW capabilities, which makes it hard to have any clue about BVR engagements. We also don't know the latest changes on emptyweight or engine performance improvements, to get an idea about the changes of flight performance either. All we can say is, that it still uses the AL 31 engine, which tells us something about the status of Chinese engine developments and that no advantages in terms of load capabilities were achieved, by increasing internal fuel or CFTs and that's where the Su 30 or F15s will have the biggest advantage.

 

[surya kiran]

I am merely reacting to the outrageous claim of that expert.
F-16 program is a success story for decades, its latest block carries the avionics that are comparable to the JSF program.. its combat and exercise record is unparalleled.
as for J-10 all we have is some adulterated videos from top gun and some careful flight display during the airshows. it might be good, on paper it says it is .. but claiming that its better than the two most iconic heavy weights i.e SU-30 and F-15? well thats where I think where the problem is.

over to you

Stop farting it is better than S-30 MKI. As an Indian I have agreed, now as a Pakistani you argee its better than F-16 Block 100.

 

[acid rain]

Mr Cwhatever terrorist, It would be nice if you can provide evidence to back up your claim, otherwise don't fart.

Send it to an international competition for fighter evaluation and then fart about it if neutral evaluating proves it superior. I suspect that only thing it will beat other 4th gen's is in price.

 

[volatile]

But weight class doesn't make a fighter superior or inferior, techs and capabilities do. It shouldn't be that surprising if the J10 is more maneuverable in dogfights compared to the F15, based on the advantages of the delta canard design, but that's as far as we can compare it. We don't know much about it's radar, it's RCS, or EW capabilities, which makes it hard to have any clue about BVR engagements. We also don't know the latest changes on emptyweight or engine performance improvements, to get an idea about the changes of flight performance either. All we can say is, that it still uses the AL 31 engine, which tells us something about the status of Chinese engine developments and that no advantages in terms of load capabilities were achieved, by increasing internal fuel or CFTs and that's where the Su 30 or F15s will have the biggest advantage.

It does matter after all you always compare apple to apple

 

[sancho]

It does matter after all you always compare apple to apple

Not really, a single engined medium class F16 can carry the same payload than a twin engined heavy class Su 30, but does it tell us anything about it's radar range, the flight performance, what kind or how many weapons it actually can carry? Of course not and that's why the weight class doesn't matter, only the actual performance does.