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China’s J-10B Fighter More Advanced Than Indian Su-30, Japanese F-15J aircraft: Chinese Expert

acc to western standards 4th gen= to chinese 6th gen
 
J10 b has a super engine.
Best aesa
Max payload
Most reliable govt giving facts about its might
Maximum war experience
Most diverse range of weapon

And unmatched quality of chinoise .


It must be numero uno. We all believe in this tin can.
 
May be because of the DSI ?:sarcastic:

On topic:Wow who give them these expert titleto this man?
We should appreciate him :sarcastic:
He's a rear admiral who had little schooling as a youth due to poverty, but has since completed degrees from both domestic and foreign institutes, while also being involved in the inner circles of military affairs for most of his life.

So you tell me if he deserves the expert tag.

:rofl::rofl::rofl:

your comment always amuse me.meanwhile you've forgot Rafale,EFT,F-15SE and Su-35 and possibly Mig-35,other leading 4++ gens.I'm don't even thinking about comparing with a 5th gen.

by the way,thats what I call truly D!ck m3asuring..why would he bother to compare it with SU-30 MKI when he has his own country's J-11 to compare??:D

J-10A can be comparable with F-16 Block E/F,according to experts.J-10B may be comparable with F-16 block 60,and thats it.no need to compare it with aircrafts with which its spec isn't comparable.thats true obsession.

He never explicitly said Su30, I watched this interview, he just said it's better than anything the Japanese or Indians have when asked, and he gave reasons, I can't remember what they were, cause it's from a few weeks ago, but I can check if you want.

Though your comparison seems not that far off.
 
He's a rear admiral who had little schooling as a youth due to poverty, but has since completed degrees from both domestic and foreign institutes, while also being involved in the inner circles of military affairs for most of his life.

So you tell me if he deserves the expert tag.



He never explicitly said Su30, I watched this interview, he just said it's better than anything the Japanese or Indians have when asked, and he gave reasons, I can't remember what they were, cause it's from a few weeks ago, but I can check if you want.

Though your comparison seems not that far off.

Christina Hendricks... nice:yahoo:. On the actual article though, who cares who's air-frames is better? At the end of the day and in any conflict pilot skill and training and logistics are going to make an impactful difference. Who can field a larger fleet? Who's pilot's skills make up for their lack of fleet size? Who's logistics capabilities can endure losses and continue to replenish a diminished fleet's size?

War isn't fought or won with technical skills alone, it's a combination of logistical capacity, training and personnel skills and technological prowess. As has been said often, "it's how you use it that matters most."

The J-10B, F-15, SU-30 they're all awesome, can't we just leave the discussion there instead of having to compare everything?
 
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He's a rear admiral who had little schooling as a youth due to poverty, but has since completed degrees from both domestic and foreign institutes, while also being involved in the inner circles of military affairs for most of his life.

So you tell me if he deserves the expert tag.



He never explicitly said Su30, I watched this interview, he just said it's better than anything the Japanese or Indians have when asked, and he gave reasons, I can't remember what they were, cause it's from a few weeks ago, but I can check if you want.

Though your comparison seems not that far off.

Last week I read an article in a magazine .It was about a weird man somethi.g like saint who has an engineering graduation from IIT,aCharterd Accountant degree and a MBA from IIM.But somehow he is spending his life badly.

All I am trying to say you dont need sixth sense with mighty educational back up for analysing common fact.
Comparing J 10 with Su 30 MKI and F 15 is absurd.
Ok forget about MKI.
But cant agree about F 15 at any case.In fact F 22is a stealthier upgradedsystem of F15 .US forces already tested its maximum capacity during OperationDesert Storm and Iraq war.Still using in ME.

J 10 dont even find a customer outside of the China.
 
Last week I read an article in a magazine .It was about a weird man somethi.g like saint who has an engineering graduation from IIT,aCharterd Accountant degree and a MBA from IIM.But somehow he is spending his life badly.

All I am trying to say you dont need sixth sense with mighty educational back up for analysing common fact.
Comparing J 10 with Su 30 MKI and F 15 is absurd.
Ok forget about MKI.
But cant agree about F 15 at any case.In fact F 22is a stealthier upgradedsystem of F15 .US forces already tested its maximum capacity during OperationDesert Storm and Iraq war.Still using in ME.

J 10 dont even find a customer outside of the China.

ok...not sure how the first part applies, he's also a rear admiral, and he has met a lot of the world military counterparts, he's been on Nimitz a few times even. So he didn't waste his life, if that's what you are implying, cause aside from degrees, he's also got accomplishments.

He didn't compare the J-10b to anything in particular, the article added that.

J-10B still needs military action, so does China, but the fact F-15 and 16 worked during desert storm means there are things that can't be predicted and there are things that can.


As to the customer thing, the first J-10B still uses Russian engine, some say is because we still had more left, so better to use it, but it's probably a combination of needing more time and that.

China is not a traditional military nation with many allies, to use a Chinese system you would need new infrastructure and training, most won't do that unless has a reason to. With increase Chinese presence, we may very well have a good market sometime later.
 
J10 b has a super engine.
Best aesa
Max payload
Most reliable govt giving facts about its might
Maximum war experience
Most diverse range of weapon

And unmatched quality of chinoise .


It must be numero uno. We all believe in this tin can.

Yes, your compliment is most welcome here
Best aesa: so far so good thank you, can't see any neighbor done it yet
Max payload: not bad as a fighter
Most reliable govt giving facts about its might: good enough but can't match telling fact like 2012 superpower though
Maximum war experience: good enough, have fought both superpowers, very bloody, but you know what the best was 1962, the other side pee their pants, I can tell you more how about that?
Most diverse range of weapon: not bad, thank you
And unmatched quality of chinoise: maybe can't match eastern neighbors yet, but vs southern neighbor sure

Hopefully it is numero uno, rest assured this tin can must be better than any crap from the southern neighbor
 
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Christina Hendricks... nice:yahoo:. One the actual article though, who cares who's air-frames is better? At the end of the day and in any conflict pilot skill and training and logistics are going to make an impactful difference. Who can field a larger fleet? Who's pilot's skills make up for their lack of fleet size? Who's logistics capabilities can endure losses and continue to replenish a diminished fleet's size?

War isn't fought or won with technical skills alone, it's a combination of logistical capacity, training and personnel skills and technological prowess. as has been often said, "it's how you use it that matters most."

The J-10B, F-15, SU-30 they're all awesome, can't we just leave the discussion there instead of having to compare everything?
but we didn't, and it's the media, what do you want them to say, in other news @SvenSvensonov finds @Genesis avatar quite awesome, more to follow on that front.
 
Sorry, I didn't mean the Chinese experts where comparing aircraft, I was more annoyed at the people of PDF who feel the need to constantly measure every aspect of their countries to determine who;s nation and products are better. It's tiresome. I too watched the video and came to the conclusion you did about him not referencing anything in particular.

Honestly, the only time I think comparing two systems is appropriate is during a sales pitch or when you get your asses kicked and need to determine how not to let that happen in the future, as China did following the First Gulf War when we steamrolled the same equipment they were using at the time, only held by the Iraqis instead. The comparisons they did following that conflict have helped shape the modern PLA and there's nothing wrong with this in my opinion

And on your avatar, yes I do like them, especially redheads! I find certain parts of Christina Hendricks to be quite appealing:bunny:.

It's fun to compare, gun to your head Hendricks or Amy Adams? BTW, sorry to burst that bubble, Hendricks is a blond.
 
ok...not sure how the first part applies, he's also a rear admiral, and he has met a lot of the world military counterparts, he's been on Nimitz a few times even. So he didn't waste his life, if that's what you are implying, cause aside from degrees, he's also got accomplishments.

He didn't compare the J-10b to anything in particular, the article added that.

J-10B still needs military action, so does China, but the fact F-15 and 16 worked during desert storm means there are things that can't be predicted and there are things that can.


As to the customer thing, the first J-10B still uses Russian engine, some say is because we still had more left, so better to use it, but it's probably a combination of needing more time and that.

China is not a traditional military nation with many allies, to use a Chinese system you would need new infrastructure and training, most won't do that unless has a reason to. With increase Chinese presence, we may very well have a good market sometime later.

AFAIK from that article he tried tobcompare it with other two systems.Like I said we dont need to go to specs.All it takes is the experience.F 15 out gunned its counterparts at any case.
 
Wonderful news we are getting these days. First we heard Rafales being sitting ducks for J-11, now J-10B annihilating MKIs.
What next J-20 will have FGFA as hors d'oeuvres!
 
Why, why must I choose:mad:. I like Amy Adams, but Christina Hendricks' eyes are more beautiful in my opinion. I don't want to chose, I like them both, but Christina Hendricks would be my choice if I had to, if only for here eyes (I like... um, some parts, to be a but smaller... but I wont complain either way). Amy Adams looks a lot younger though, and she's the older of the two!

And yes, Hendricks is a blonde, but not recently.

Curse, and thank you for giving me a excuse to look at them during work:yahoo:.

You are getting married soon dude, good days like these are numbered ... :cry::cry::cry:
 

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