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Indeed, the innovation is not that important, the most important thing is being the greatest survivor of all time.
China’s Innovation Has Outstripped Its ‘Follow Fast’ Reputation
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Indeed, the innovation is not that important, the most important thing is being the greatest survivor of all time.
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Neither is Facebook or myspace innovative.
BTW, have you ever used any Chinese services? Do you know what's considered a innovation in the field of technology? Or to use an example from the article, search functions.
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What comparable social network predates Myspace and Facebook, and in what country was it located?
I have used WeChat. How is it innovative over, say, ICQ, which I started using almost 20 years ago? I haven't used many other Chinese services. Perhaps you can provide some examples and how they are innovative, unlike the failed examples from the article.
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The fact you can't name a Facebook or myspace predecessor means you are not in the field and I am. So.....Should we really continue? BTW all this about Facebook is covered in my college classes some years ago.
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Based on the other thread where you made such vague claims about Germany helping the US "the most" before WWI, and then failed to prove it, I can't give you the benefit of the doubt anymore. So yes, please continue.
And you're right, I am not in your field, whatever that is. I am happy to admit I am wrong, as long as I am wrong.
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I'm not criticizing your opinion, i agree with your points that many IT related products/services such as chat/social network/e-commerce all originated from the US.
Why China is stealing America's corn seeds - Jul. 3, 2014
Why China is stealing America's corn seeds
Three years ago, a security guard working for seed company Pioneer Hi-Bred came across something unusual on a road in Iowa: Just off the pavement, a man was on his knees, digging in a field.
Challenged by the guard, Mo Hailong claimed to be an employee of the University of Iowa who was traveling to a nearby conference. He jumped back in his car and sped away.
U.S. authorities would later accuse Mo, and five other Chinese nationals, of stealing corn seeds and attempting to smuggle them back to China.
A seventh defendant, Mo Yun, was arrested and charged Wednesday with stealing trade secrets for her husband's seed company -- the Beijing Dabeinong Technology Group Company.
The details of the case, laid out by prosecutors, underscore the difficulty of safeguarding U.S. intellectual property, and the determination of some foreign rivals to acquire technology by illicit means.
For six years, the Chinese nationals hopscotched across rural Iowa and Illinois, stealing valuable inbred corn seed from Pioneer, Monsanto (MON) and LG Seeds, prosecutors said in an updated indictment. The group rented storage facilities, bought their own testing field and concocted elaborate cover stories.
"These are actually very serious offenses," one of the accused said during a recorded conversation reproduced in the indictment. "They could treat us as spies," his colleague replied.
Three members of the group tried to smuggle the stolen goods out of the U.S. in 2012, concealing hundreds of seeds in Orville Redenbacher popcorn boxes and Subway napkins. One tried to reach Canada; the others boarded aircraft bound for Beijing.
The Chinese nationals weren't risking imprisonment for just any corn -- they were after inbred seeds used to create the hybrids that are then sold to farmers.
Inbreds are closely guarded secrets. Companies spend tens of millions of dollars on research to produce strains that boost yields and are resistant to drought and insects.
China has become a major corn importer in recent years, and the stolen technology could have played a role in boosting domestic production.
The case is the latest in a series of incidents involving Chinese nationals working in the U.S. Some are accused of stealing rice technology and aerospace secrets for China.
"Identifying and deterring those focused on stealing trade secrets, propriety and confidential information or national security information is the number two priority for the FBI second only to terrorism," FBI special agent Thomas Metz said in a statement.
Beijing Dabeinong Technology Group Company, and its subsidiary, Beijing Kings Nower Seed, did not respond to requests for comment.
Analysts say that Beijing's use of economic espionage can be attributed in part to its drive to modernize the country in recent decades.
The illicit acquisition of technology has helped China accelerate the process, bypassing problems that would otherwise require years of research to resolve. It's an issue that has drawn the attention of the White House.
Why China is stealing America's corn seeds
Three years ago, a security guard working for seed company Pioneer Hi-Bred came across something unusual on a road in Iowa: Just off the pavement, a man was on his knees, digging in a field.
Challenged by the guard, Mo Hailong claimed to be an employee of the University of Iowa who was traveling to a nearby conference. He jumped back in his car and sped away.
U.S. authorities would later accuse Mo, and five other Chinese nationals, of stealing corn seeds and attempting to smuggle them back to China.
A seventh defendant, Mo Yun, was arrested and charged Wednesday with stealing trade secrets for her husband's seed company -- the Beijing Dabeinong Technology Group Company.
The details of the case, laid out by prosecutors, underscore the difficulty of safeguarding U.S. intellectual property, and the determination of some foreign rivals to acquire technology by illicit means.
For six years, the Chinese nationals hopscotched across rural Iowa and Illinois, stealing valuable inbred corn seed from Pioneer, Monsanto (MON) and LG Seeds, prosecutors said in an updated indictment. The group rented storage facilities, bought their own testing field and concocted elaborate cover stories.
"These are actually very serious offenses," one of the accused said during a recorded conversation reproduced in the indictment. "They could treat us as spies," his colleague replied.
Three members of the group tried to smuggle the stolen goods out of the U.S. in 2012, concealing hundreds of seeds in Orville Redenbacher popcorn boxes and Subway napkins. One tried to reach Canada; the others boarded aircraft bound for Beijing.
The Chinese nationals weren't risking imprisonment for just any corn -- they were after inbred seeds used to create the hybrids that are then sold to farmers.
Inbreds are closely guarded secrets. Companies spend tens of millions of dollars on research to produce strains that boost yields and are resistant to drought and insects.
China has become a major corn importer in recent years, and the stolen technology could have played a role in boosting domestic production.
The case is the latest in a series of incidents involving Chinese nationals working in the U.S. Some are accused of stealing rice technology and aerospace secrets for China.
"Identifying and deterring those focused on stealing trade secrets, propriety and confidential information or national security information is the number two priority for the FBI second only to terrorism," FBI special agent Thomas Metz said in a statement.
Beijing Dabeinong Technology Group Company, and its subsidiary, Beijing Kings Nower Seed, did not respond to requests for comment.
Analysts say that Beijing's use of economic espionage can be attributed in part to its drive to modernize the country in recent decades.
The illicit acquisition of technology has helped China accelerate the process, bypassing problems that would otherwise require years of research to resolve. It's an issue that has drawn the attention of the White House.
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BY GURU GOWRAPPAN, QUIXEY
The article is written by a GURU!!
Typical Indian. We Chinese always talk less do more.
How does a GURU knows innovation?!
The article is written by a GURU!!
Typical Indian. We Chinese always talk less do more.How does a GURU knows innovation?!
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Said it before and saying it again...
There are two kinds of innovations: catch-up and frontier.
When DARPA led the program to create a resilient communication network that ended with we call 'the Internet', that is frontier innovation. Henry Ford did not invent the automobile, but his method of mass production was frontier innovation for manufacturing.
Catch-up innovation is about adapting the current technology to suit unique social and/or environmental needs. A good example is in my industry - semiconductor products manufacturing. Advantest and Verigy make test platforms and they sell to anyone. It is up to the customers to adapt those platforms to their own unique situations, one of them is the human height differences between peoples, Asians are generally a few cm shorter than Euro origin peoples. Plant managers have to account for ergonomic differences, everything from humans to robotics at wherever there are interactions with humans.
Frontier innovation is vertically oriented. Catch-up innovation is lateral, as in widespread adaptions and adoptions. Catch-up innovations rarely contribute to the core principles of the technology. Currently, China is the leader in catch-up innovation.
There are two kinds of innovations: catch-up and frontier.
When DARPA led the program to create a resilient communication network that ended with we call 'the Internet', that is frontier innovation. Henry Ford did not invent the automobile, but his method of mass production was frontier innovation for manufacturing.
Catch-up innovation is about adapting the current technology to suit unique social and/or environmental needs. A good example is in my industry - semiconductor products manufacturing. Advantest and Verigy make test platforms and they sell to anyone. It is up to the customers to adapt those platforms to their own unique situations, one of them is the human height differences between peoples, Asians are generally a few cm shorter than Euro origin peoples. Plant managers have to account for ergonomic differences, everything from humans to robotics at wherever there are interactions with humans.
Frontier innovation is vertically oriented. Catch-up innovation is lateral, as in widespread adaptions and adoptions. Catch-up innovations rarely contribute to the core principles of the technology. Currently, China is the leader in catch-up innovation.
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Premier Li stresses innovation-driven economic upgrading
Updated: 2014-07-06 08:44 (Xinhua)
Chinese Premier Li Keqiang (2nd L front) shakes hands with employees while visiting train manufacturer CSR Zhuzhou in Central China's Hunan province, July 4, 2014. Li made a research and inspection tour in Hunan on July 3 - 4. [Photo/Xinhua]
CHANGSHA -- China needs to use innovation and intelligence as well as diligence to support its economic upgrading and job creation, Premier Li Keqiang has said.
China has abundant human resources, a huge market and deep-rooted culture, so there is much potential to develop its creative industry, Li said during an inspection tour of Changsha, the capital of central China's Hunan province, and Zhuzhou city in Hunan on Thursday and Friday.
China should improve its products through intelligence and bolster job creation and industrial development through innovation to create a better Chinese image on the global stage, he said.
Li encouraged college students to unleash their potential through employment and running businesses, saying the government needs to create a platform for them and the whole society should encourage innovation and be tolerant of failures.
The size of market for Chinese products depends on the potential of creativity. To make Chinese-manufactured equipment flourish on the global market, its competitiveness should be giving clients most bang for the buck and its lifeline lies in the high quality, Li stressed.
Key projects conducive to economic restructuring including railway building in central and western China are important targeted controls measures, Li said.
China needs to continue streamlining administration and delegating more power to lower-level governments to spur market vitality. Governments need to create a fair competition market environment and enhance their efficiency to help enterprises increase profits, he added.
Premier Li stresses innovation-driven economic upgrading[1]- Chinadaily.com.cn
Updated: 2014-07-06 08:44 (Xinhua)
Chinese Premier Li Keqiang (2nd L front) shakes hands with employees while visiting train manufacturer CSR Zhuzhou in Central China's Hunan province, July 4, 2014. Li made a research and inspection tour in Hunan on July 3 - 4. [Photo/Xinhua]
CHANGSHA -- China needs to use innovation and intelligence as well as diligence to support its economic upgrading and job creation, Premier Li Keqiang has said.
China has abundant human resources, a huge market and deep-rooted culture, so there is much potential to develop its creative industry, Li said during an inspection tour of Changsha, the capital of central China's Hunan province, and Zhuzhou city in Hunan on Thursday and Friday.
China should improve its products through intelligence and bolster job creation and industrial development through innovation to create a better Chinese image on the global stage, he said.
Li encouraged college students to unleash their potential through employment and running businesses, saying the government needs to create a platform for them and the whole society should encourage innovation and be tolerant of failures.
The size of market for Chinese products depends on the potential of creativity. To make Chinese-manufactured equipment flourish on the global market, its competitiveness should be giving clients most bang for the buck and its lifeline lies in the high quality, Li stressed.
Key projects conducive to economic restructuring including railway building in central and western China are important targeted controls measures, Li said.
China needs to continue streamlining administration and delegating more power to lower-level governments to spur market vitality. Governments need to create a fair competition market environment and enhance their efficiency to help enterprises increase profits, he added.
Premier Li stresses innovation-driven economic upgrading[1]- Chinadaily.com.cn
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Xiaomi moves 50,000 MiPad tablets in 4 minutes 
July 5, 2014 by Dusan Belic
That’s actually 3 minutes and 59 seconds, but you get the point – people love Xiaomi’s gear. And 50,000 tablets isn’t exactly a big number in China, the world’s biggest smartphone market. Nevertheless, it’s an impressive figure for Xiaomi’s first tablet and we’re sure the next batch of devices will be moved in just a few minutes, as well.
For those who missed it, the MiPad is the iPadMini competitor that has a Gorilla Glass 3-protected 7.9-inch 2048×1536 pixels display, 2.2GHz NVIDIA Tegra K1 chip, 2GB of RAM, Wi-Fi connectivity, 6,700 mAh battery, and 16 or 64 GB of expandable storage. In addition, it also comes with a pair of cameras, 8MP with Sony BSI sensor and f/2.0 aperture on the back, and 5MP front-facing one.
We’re still clueless when will Xiaomi bring its tablet to other markets, but chances are few South-East Asian countries will get it by the end of this year. Then, perhaps in early 2015, we may see the MiPad (or MiPad 2) hitting parts of the Western hemisphere. We can hope, at least…
Xiaomi moves 50,000 MiPad tablets in 4 minutes
July 5, 2014 by Dusan Belic
That’s actually 3 minutes and 59 seconds, but you get the point – people love Xiaomi’s gear. And 50,000 tablets isn’t exactly a big number in China, the world’s biggest smartphone market. Nevertheless, it’s an impressive figure for Xiaomi’s first tablet and we’re sure the next batch of devices will be moved in just a few minutes, as well.
For those who missed it, the MiPad is the iPadMini competitor that has a Gorilla Glass 3-protected 7.9-inch 2048×1536 pixels display, 2.2GHz NVIDIA Tegra K1 chip, 2GB of RAM, Wi-Fi connectivity, 6,700 mAh battery, and 16 or 64 GB of expandable storage. In addition, it also comes with a pair of cameras, 8MP with Sony BSI sensor and f/2.0 aperture on the back, and 5MP front-facing one.
We’re still clueless when will Xiaomi bring its tablet to other markets, but chances are few South-East Asian countries will get it by the end of this year. Then, perhaps in early 2015, we may see the MiPad (or MiPad 2) hitting parts of the Western hemisphere. We can hope, at least…
Xiaomi moves 50,000 MiPad tablets in 4 minutes
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Your country needs to show modesty. Everyone knows the US innovated the most because after all you got huge benefit to modernize and absorbed European tech (basically you are a derivative of European modern technology). But don't forget, every technology concept is learn from the predecessor. That including European learning from ancient China.
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From our perspective, we are. American companies hire the best and the brightest from across the world, and operate R&D centers across the world. We go where the talent is. China, on the other hand, is more China-centric, focused internally on its huge market. Do you think it is more modest to embrace the world's markets, or focus on oneself?
