China's 'gift' of Z-10 helicopters to Pakistan raises suspicion

[PakGuns]


you made some sense..its amazing how these deals got played.some play it to secure leverage,some when they're unable to pay.I don't think Z-10 is a bad platform(as not much is known about this platform and its performance.but its a new one).I'd rather appreciate Pakistan's MI-35 purchase.that one sure is going to come handy.Z-10 is more designed for traditional war,and its look like Pakistan is just trying to diverge its plan to purchase AH-1Z by purchasing/getting this one(possibly they'll buy few more later)..but different kind of platforms going to make a logistic nightmare...

And there's nothing enough common in ah1z and our cobras....so, just consider every acquisition with new logistics/training...

 

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[HRK]

Indian government has refused to accept any developmental Aid from UK, since 2012.

What a revelation you made my dear friend, I am obliged to know about this.

now answer has India stop taking aid from all other sources ??

plz have a look at this

You are posting old statistics

Old statistics come on buddy you have missed my earlier post (as @waz has deleted that post), you should know that UK-AID report is the 'latest' & published in October 2013.


NOTE For @waz : Dear you need to understand the difference b/w an off-topic troll post and an Informative post based on OFFICIAL DATA addressing those troll posts and myths; you can see that now I have to repost those attachments here again.

because recent statistics does not support your assertion.

India tells Britain: We don't want your aid - Telegraph

What is my 'assertion' in "your opinion" ???

One more thing I wanna know do you & your countrymen ever read official Indian sources before posting troll post here ???

or you people just come here to question "assertion" of some Pakistani members.
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I don't wanna give a shock to our fellow Indian members otherwise would have posted the table of Economic & Military assistance India has received from USA which is over $16 billion

 

[Kinetic]

China's Z-10 attack helicopter. (Internet photo)

China's reported decision to present Pakistan three Z-10 attack helicopters as a "gift" this year has raised suspicions of ulterior motives, says Duowei News, a US-based Chinese political news outlet.

Citing unconfirmed Russian media reports, Duowei claims that although Pakistan had shown an interest purchasing the Z-10s, which are designed by Russia's Kamov Design Bureau under contract from Beijing, China decided to give the helicopters to its "closest friend" for free.

The Z-10s, designed primarily for anti-tank missions with secondary air-to-air capabilities, will reportedly be added to the Pakistan Army aviation fleet and be deployed in the ongoing fight against terrorism in the country. The helicopter is said to be capable of targeting the enemy in the air or on the ground with a range of 3-4 kilometers without appearing on radar.

Some military experts have cast doubt on the effectiveness of the Z-10 on counterterrorism operations, saying that its WZ-9 operation engine has relatively low power as well as a smaller payload and weaker defensive capabilities in comparison to other attack helicopters.

Even if the reports of the gift are true, Duowei said, the new Z-10 helicopters will only enhance Pakistan's position against India, which is about to pair its domestically produced light combat helicopters with newly imported AH-64 Apache attack helicopters manufactured by Boeing. Though there is still a sizable gap between the power systems of Z-10s and Apaches, the Chinese aircraft's body design and weapon system configurations are comparable to the world's most advanced attack helicopters, especially because of the excellent performance of its TY-90 air-to-air missiles.

For China, the "gift" to Pakistan could serve as a gift for the givers as well, as it might allow the PLA to see how the Z-10s perform in actual combat situations, providing valuable data for further research and development, Duowei said. China may have already been collecting information on its domestically produced weaponry acquired by Pakistan in recent years, including the MBT-3000 tank, the JF-17 Thunder combat aircraft and the F-22P general purpose frigate. The decision to make the Z-10s a gift instead of selling them could therefore stem from Pakistan's limited defense budget and China's relatively robust arms industry, Duowei added.

China's 'gift' of Z-10 helicopters to Pakistan raises suspicion｜Politics｜News｜WantChinaTimes.com

How many more gifts will you take!!!! Aaab bas bhi karoo.... US, Saudis, Chinese are in line to give gifts to pakistan.


Remember nothing comes for free, they are just using you.

 

[Max Pain]

How many more gifts will you take!!!! Aaab bas bhi karoo.... US, Saudis, Chinese are in line to give gifts to pakistan.


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[karan.1970]

Free Sample

 

[TheMatador]

The only motivation for both China and Pakistan: split India into many smaller countries!

 

[Umair Nawaz]

Duowei News。。。

News my azz

Infact the article has failed to prove what actually is 'suspicious' about it!

 

[TOPGUN]

How many more gifts will you take!!!! Aaab bas bhi karoo.... US, Saudis, Chinese are in line to give gifts to pakistan.


Remember nothing comes for free, they are just using you.

You don't worry about that , what we take as a gift our buy none of your concern but thanks for the thought .

 

[Shotgunner51]

those three Choppers is for evaluation , and If china give Z-10's to Pakistan , it is good for them too , we are Fighting war and we will test this machine in the battle field and with our Corporation , China can make it better , and remove flaws ( if any ) and upgrade it compared to other modern Attack choppers ..

Yes, actually we are flattered to accept gratitude from Pakistani posters here, and we should thank the respectable and courageous friends in Pakistani Army, who are fighting on the front-line vs terrorism as we speak, for risking their lives to send back performance data for system upgrade.

The nature of it is in fact a joint military operation, in which China provides weaponry, Pakistan provides personnel, this is nothing new between the two allies. Only with valuable field-tested data then we can make systems upgraded and more customized to PA's requirements. Moreover, let's leave the conspiracy theory aside, this is a state-to-state co-operation, no private sector involvement, the two allies see things from a geopolitical angle rather than seeing it as an once-off sale and purchase of merchandise, and whatever financials related to it is negligible to China's defense budget.

Labeling such an operation "gifts" or "free samples" is demeaning to the decision makers, and shamelessly dishonor to the professional fellows who work their hours or even lives for it.

中巴友谊。。。

 

[RescueRanger]

Stick to the topic please, any further derailing will result in reports.

 

[Bratva]

Stick to the topic please, any further derailing will result in reports.

Sir Jee, aesay baaz nahi atay log reporting say. You need to enforce law Pakistani style. Chittar first, talk latter

 

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