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Bro.your analyst is excellent again. Everyone can see that CN having so many problem and so weak now, thats why JP-UK warships r sailing around CN water now, France-Aussie warships will join soon and waiting for CN incoming chaos.China is actually much weaker today than it was in 1966. In 1966, China could have started a riot at any time in Singapore. China can't do that today. China also had huge leftist networks all over the US itself. Today's China has alienated both the left, and the right in America, and the world. Of course you don't think China is foolish, you're not paid to. Kruschev invaded China for his western masters, just like Xiaoping invaded Vietnam for his American masters, even people in China accept that fact. Who said that the US was worried? They attack and invade countries because they want to. It doesn't mean they are worried. The west destablizes north Korea too, it doesn't mean they're genuinely worried about NK. You have scanners in the subways, it means you are scared to death that the west is backing another destabilization. Tienamen happend because the west was disatisfied with Xiaoping. People with enough common sense know that. 99% don't want to change the status quo in China? Give me a break. That's a lie that only a 5 yr old would believe. The Deng dynasty is hated by both the left, and the right. The right thinks that Jinping is not accomodating enough to the west, and bourgeoisie. The left hates Jinping because he is a sell out who puts foreign interests ahead of his own compatriots, and Jinping has indeed marginalized the workers, and farmers like Xiaoping, Zemin, and Jintao ahead of him. The only real supporters of Jinping are people like you, and the small % who have something to gain from the regime, but as I've said before, even people who have alot to gain from the Deng dynasty turn against the dynasty. Rebia Kadir. Case, and point. In fact, I've talked to old, and young Chinese. I'd say that the people who support Jinping's crazed capitalist adventure are in the minority. And if you ask the workers, and farmers, they support the Deng dynasty even less. Claiming that the people are content doesn't even sound believable. The ClA knows that the people are not content and thats why they are starting the trade war now, because the further to the right China moves, the less people will be content, and then the Deng dynasty will end up like the USSR. You never were obediant? Are you sure about that? Xiaoping invaded Vietnam for his American masters. That's obediance. Wake up. China lends trillions to the west, that's obediance. The only problem, as far as the west is concerned is, you aren't giving them enough, and do occassionally do independent things.
Nobody 'gives' you technology, you buy it, you force a transfer by offering market access, or you 'steal' it. Been doing it for decades and look where China is today. Barring semiconductors and a few sectors, the west is almost dry, sucked dry. US is starting this war because of Trump's votebank genius. Don't be so naive, capitalist would sell you the rope to hang them. American companies are gonna sell you the technology for the right price, GOTUS knows this and that's why they set up the arms embargo to contain those sensitive technologies. You think those CEOs are so patriotic?You want access to technology, investment, and markets, unfortunately, the west doesn't want to give you technology, investment, or markets. Let's look at a few simple examples. Technology- The US is specifically starting a trade war over China because China wants technology.
Second, investments. The US is allowed to operate mastercard, and visa in China, but China can't operate unionpay. Lose for China. Then look at the markets. I just mentioned this before. USA can sell apple iphones, and gm cars in China, but China can't sell Xiaomi, or Roewe.
Fail what actually? The truth is China is a closed market, we force tech transfer, and yes we game the system to our advantage. We do this in our national interest, wrong but still it's right for our country, until that sector is globally competitive, then we can be on equal footing. =)So it's a fail on all 3 levels. Taiwan was never allowed to be independent, yet Taiwan IS allowed to a major base for anti Chinese activities. China ONLY became a silent character AFTER Mao died. Before that, China was very active in backing anti imperialist activities all over the world, and very vocal about it. China brought attention to all kinds of issues regarding the west. This only stopped with Xiaoping. TW is occupied by the US, they have troops there, and many agents to supervise TW officials. Why do Chinese always even talk about invading TW. That is so stupid. Even if China successfully invades TW, it couldn't keep it. There is a huge defacto US embasy that they just recently built in TW. "We can't challenge US until we are strong enough". We've all heard that before. You are assuming China is becoming stronger, and it might be militarily, but China's soft power is much weaker than it was in 1966. I've talked before about how today's China is hated by both the left and the right.
They would and the US would even fine their own companies if they are found to have abetted in corruption. Read the 1MDB scandal, a US corp assisted in the scam, they are going to court. So far, the contracts are well executed and fair, else they can challenge it in court. Malaysia's ex PM was pretty much anti-West but even he welcomed all investments which were beneficial. China needs to play the game better, helping corrupt dictators can only work when the dictator is in power. The US won't back a mob over a commercial deal, they back a mob over geopolitical reasons. Are you sane?I never said anything about attacking Malaysia, but would Malaysia ever dare to cancel similar contracts with the west? Certainly not. Furthermore, even if Malaysia did cancel contracts with the west, the west will deal with it in a very different way. In a much more agresive way, possibly backing street mobs. That is precisely why people fear the west, and not China.
You are either unaware of how things work, or purposely pretending to be ignorant. America can and does force people to buy their products on a regular basis. Everything from software, medicine, to computer hardware is forced upon people. China regularly buys products from the west that China produces itself. Tide laundry detergent, Colgate toothpaste, Crest toothpaste. Starbucks, KFC, Mcdonalds, Coca Cola, Pringles potato chips. English language schools. "Entertainment" like Hollywood films, and tv shows. Music. China even bought broadcasting rights for saturday night live. This is a protection fee that China pays to the west, and also part of the chongyangmeiwai epidemic that has plagued China for the past 40yrs.
Then stop moaning about 5G, in the end western consumers will lose out. They cannot access affordable quality solutions. They can only go so far using the security excuse. in the end you will sell other goods and services. I don't even want to buy LINING, it sounds shitty, make it sound nicer and do better ads. Call it dynamix, even that is a better sounding name. You can sell in domestic market as LINING, overseas, it sounds like PAD LINING.I never said China only exports 5g, but if your American master is able to convince Australia, India, and south Korea to ban Chinese 5g, certainly they can coerce others into doing the same thing to many other products. People can and do contain China. Go to Hong Kong, and you don't even see any Lining stores. China can't even access its own domestic market, how does it expect to access anything else.
It worked in the beginning, but in the end do you see any Western solar makers alive? Do you know who dominates the solar market now? That tariff destroyed inefficient Chinese makers and only the best survived. You cannot be a protectionist market, in the end it will lose.Actually the tarifs against the Chinese solar panels did work. There were, and are still alot of solar panels laying around that the Europeans didn't buy.
No no no, you do not get what I meant, we HAVE THE MONEY AND POWER, just not as much as US. What are you smoking? If it's our goal to support the western industries and pay protection fees, then wtf are they afraid of us, shouldn't they be applauding us and supporting such a good regime paying taxes? The truth is we are behind certain industries, and to balance our trade we need to open our market. You cannot force an average Chinese not to buy BMWs, you can only buy VOLVO and make it in China and sell it back. You need to understand branding heritage and the trust in quality, both lacking in China until recently.China does NOT have both money and power now. Amerika has that. Not China. China has some money, but it's mostly being spent on the west, in the form of protection fees. China's first goal is still to support the west, and western industries.
If no one is afraid of China, Japan wouldn't be buying F-35s and Taiwan would have declared independence genius. China chooses not to use force, Do not mistake kindness as weakness. =)Actually, no one is afraid of China. People are more afraid of Israil than they are of China.
Why does it matter if China is the 2nd most powerful military. The uSSR was also that. Look what happened to them? If your country is run by traitors, only defeat awaits you.
The orchestration of Tiananmen in 89 show that its a Win-Lose deal bween US-CN (US win-CN lose). US dont give a damn to CN and just offer a Win-Lose deal, CN is too short sighted to realize its a bad deal till Tiananmen in 89 happen
U'd better wait till 2023, only 1 country (US or CN) at that time will be able to gain the victory (US economy still bad now after 2008 economy crisis and will get in a serious problem if US can not destroy CN to sell billion USD weapon to CN 'rebels' against king XI )
Do you know the geography of China BTW? We are the largest food producer in the world. Those deserts are full of oil and gas. Last I heard, Laos and Cambodia are independent and trading with China, selling us their produce from tht very same 'fertile' land. Please visit China, you sound like a frog in the well and see this BARREN country. hahahahahahahaahaha. Gosh, American propaganda got into your head well.Okay, if u think Deng gain some cheap things in 1979 war, then thats your own idea, we still hold our target sucessfully (keep control fertile lands in Laos-Camb till today while CN still have to live in barren/useless lands and dirty desert )
You can quote this and that, coming up with excuses, the fact remains, we invaded Vietnam successfully, going in deep, butchered thousands, and scorched your cities while you hid in jungles like monkeys, then we went back. In the end, we achieved a war victory but a strategic defeat.Why didnt u read the history first before deluding yourself like that. PLA attacked, but face wt stiff resistance (while its just VN border guard and militia forces only) and suffered high cost. History record that VN didnt continue to kill PLA when they retreated
A riot equals Vietnamese victory? It shows an act of desperation more than anything. You expect us to kill 100 Vietnamese low end workers in Shenzhen. Come on.in the conflict that led to the riots, 21 Cnese workers dead, more than 100 got injured. Even if we didnt win, but its surely CN lost when retreat shamefully and let 21 Cnese workers dead, more than 100 got injured behind high and dry
China does have her own problems, and so does the US, Japan and even Vietnam. Countries who don't improve and solve problems degrade. It's a simple rule. JP-UK ships are sailing in open seas, even I don't support that claim, but well, we invaded it, just keep it there.Bro.your analyst is excellent again. Everyone can see that CN having so many problem and so weak now, thats why JP-UK warships r sailing around CN water now, France-Aussie warships will join soon and waiting for CN incoming chaos.
Just like Ah Q never realize hes so stupid till ppl executed him, its a waste to make Cnese realize they r dying by the West. Thats why I give the Cnese the year of their chaos. thats 2023. thats the year US will execute CN ah Q
where u are today ?? Still a third world nation wt many problems and the risk of chaos due to US's sanction and have to beg for negotiation and 90days delay, and u think thats "good and stronk" ?? Come one, Myanmar just drop bomb on CN lands in 2015 and coward PLA only sit and watchHow can you say it's a WIN LOSE deal when we got what we wanted and they got what they wanted. With or without the US, Soviet/Vietnam was an enemy, with US, we got access to better technology, markets and finance, which helped us to be where we are today. They tried a Tmen but failed, we bid our time and grew stronger decade by decade until we are not the second most powerful military and economy. Let me put it this way, in a deal, both achieved and got what they wanted. In the end one terminated the deal, can you say the deal was a WIN LOSE pact in the first place just because one cancelled it after achieving the outcome both wanted?
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Okay, if u r happy wt your barren lands and desert wt sand storm, then enjoy it, we dont care. We r happy to see US keep crushing CN in trade war and incite countries like Myanmar to drop bomb to CN againDo you know the geography of China BTW? We are the largest food producer in the world. Those deserts are full of oil and gas. Last I heard, Laos and Cambodia are independent and trading with China, selling us their produce from tht very same 'fertile' land. Please visit China, you sound like a frog in the well and see this BARREN country. hahahahahahahaahah. Gosh, American propaganda got into your head well
its show how coward PLA is when leaving their countrymen behind high and dry in the riots. At least PLA must try to capture some VN coast guard officers in the conflict ... but PLA was too coward to do it when no daddy US back up like in 1979A riot equals Vietnamese victory? It shows an act of desperation more than anything. You expect us to kill 100 Vietnamese low end workers in Shenzhen. Come on.
Haha, so now u even believe what the whores say ?? if we r too bad, then just attack us again... but no, PLA services men r too coward today, not mentioning they r too corrupted and lazy tooChina does have her own problems, and so does the US, Japan and even Vietnam. Countries who don't improve and solve problems degrade. It's a simple rule. JP-UK ships are sailing in open seas, even I don't support that claim, but well, we invaded it, just keep it there.
As I told my Indian friend before, don't hope for the failure of others,improve yourself to be better. Hoping for China to collapse is not exactly a good strategy, you need to be better than China. I met a lot of young Viet ladies in Singapore, ermmm, let's just say their are social-able ladies working in KTVs. They told me Vietnam is having a serious drug epidemic, high youth unemployment and most Viet guys are lazy and irresponsible. Barring some ethnic Hoas, the native Vietnamese is actually very lazy and lack motivation to improve themselves.
capitalism mean enslave people and loot poor ppl's money to get rich, thats the reason why US always create a threat to loot money from other countries.
Let me copy my post again. Do u know anything abt Lenin NEP ??
CN ideology is “socialism with Chinese characteristics”, its a copy of Lenin new economy policy( NEP) that allowed private sector to run bussiness under Govt control. But as u said, the bourgeoisie always tend to favour the West, thats why after Lenin died, his NEP also gone cos Soviet Govt. couldnt control the private sector. Lenin NEP only appled in short time, thats why many ppl dont know abt it.
Same problem for CN after copying Lenin NEP now. Private companies like Tencent feel unfair when competing wt state owned enteprises and surprisingly, Tencent secretly support Trump's tariff to weaken state owned enteprises ( and may overthrow Xi in near future wt US's support )
https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/jack...ist-party-member.588897/page-10#post-10991533
Imposing 10% tariffs will not destroy a China's industrial base. True, thats why Trump raise to 25 % , thats why Xi has to beg for negotiation
China makes opening bid to US on trade ahead of Trump-Xi meeting
https://edition.cnn.com/2018/11/15/politics/us-china-trade-war-negotiation/index.html
Farm produce loss is the casualty of war. US also lost thousands men in Iraq, Syria and she just dont care abt those dead men as long as US Wall st boss can get the final victory
90 days delay to see if Xi will show his loyalty to Trump or not. If Xi obey what Trump tell him, then no need more tariff, US will win without anymore loss, thats it
Same problem for CN after copying Lenin NEP now. The bourgeoisie always tend to favour the West, thats why after Lenin died, his NEP also gone cos Soviet Govt. couldnt control the private sector
U see, CN is not smarter than Soviet, u think private sector will help CN to get richer and stronger ?? Wrong, they always support the West and they will overthrow the regime when they r strong enough.
Tencent is very popular in CN, if XI try to kill Tencent to protect his throne, then Im sure that CN economy will go down much deeper. but Xi dont kill tencent, then once day, tencent will get support from US to kill Xi
That why Tabao Alibaba is on US's blackist while Tencent is not. Alibab is only stronger when still having Xi's back up while Tencent wt support from the West just wait for the right time to kick Xi and Alibaba'azz.Tencent is not more powerful than Alibaba, even if Jack Ma chooses to be submissive toward CCP, then what do you expect from Tencent?
China's SOE have been growing several fold stronger under Xi, the US cannot stop it.
All they can keep hurting is China's private enterprises, and CCP can gain more foothold from their loyalty, just like many ASEAN nations are now forsaken the US in favor of China.
Interesting picture. Previously China cooperated with the French to harm Vietnam, cooperation with the US to harm Vietnam is nothing new neither surprising.Chinese just pretend to hate the West.
Eastern economic (england), 1981
That why Tabao Alibaba is on US's blackist while Tencent is not. Alibab is only stronger when still having Xi's back up while Tencent wt support from the West just wait for the right time to kick Xi and Alibaba'azz.
US can stop Huawei,Tabao easily. its just the matter of time before US destroy CN economy ( in 2023) like Soviet
Interesting picture. Previously China cooperated with the French to harm Vietnam, cooperation with the US to harm Vietnam is nothing new neither surprising.Chinese just pretend to hate the West.
Chinese including Xi should worship Deng as God. Because he opened the country to the world, brought economic reforms and bringing prosperity. Ok, Deng is considered in Vietnam as scum and war criminal is another story.Wechat has always been banned by the US.
Tencent's main market is always China, not the US.
Deng was a pro-West leader, and now his faction has been slowly marginalized by Xi.
Chinese including Xi should worship Deng as God. Because he opened the country to the world, brought economic reforms and bringing prosperity. Ok, Deng is considered in Vietnam as scum and war criminal is another story.
Its good when Cnese like u realize that thr trade war will not be solved just by few words on negotiation table.In next year, China and US will clash which will create a big bang around the world, it is becoming imminent.
Where are we now? We are now a moderately prosperous people with enough to eat, clothe and a roof over our head, at least for the majority. And we have world class infrastructure, needs improvement on maintenance and aesthetics, but it is definitely world class. Don't even make me start on the world's largest middle class consumer market.where u are today ?? Still a third world nation wt many problems and the risk of chaos due to US's sanction and have to beg for negotiation and 90days delay, and u think thats "good and stronk" ?? Come one, Myanmar just drop bomb on CN lands in 2015 and coward PLA only sit and watch
Okay, if u r happy wt your barren lands and desert wt sand storm, then enjoy it, we dont care. We r happy to see US keep crushing CN in trade war and incite countries like Myanmar to drop bomb to CN again
its show how coward PLA is when leaving their countrymen behind high and dry in the riots. At least PLA must try to capture some VN coast guard officers in the conflict ... but PLA was too coward to do it when no daddy US back up like in 1979
Stop viewing this as a zero sum game. You don't die by opening up and compete. You get better, you access better ideas, technology and exchange goods and services. China in isolation will just be Mao China. The greatest fear is fear itself.Bro.your analyst is excellent again. Everyone can see that CN having so many problem and so weak now, thats why JP-UK warships r sailing around CN water now, France-Aussie warships will join soon and waiting for CN incoming chaos.
Just like Ah Q never realize hes so stupid till ppl executed him, its a waste to make Cnese realize they r dying by the West. Thats why I give the Cnese the year of their chaos. thats 2023. thats the year US will execute CN ah Q
Its good when Cnese like u realize that thr trade war will not be solved just by few words on negotiation table.
What US want now is the collapse of CN, not just balancing trade deficit. U guys should realize that US economy still bad after 2008 crisis ( US debt increasing so fast, US has to reduce military budget and forces her allies to pay more) and need lots of money to stop that crisis.
If US can not destroy CN, then its US who will fall first. It means there is only one, CN or US, will still survive after this clash.