China’s export controls on gallium likely to hit US defense industry: experts

[Hakwa Nadro]

Westerners trying very hard to convince themselves( and the world) that everything is okay, I wonder what yellen is doing in china, what a coincidence.
BTW why are the pajeets so arse burnt.........

 

[DF41]

The Chinese are so afraid of American anger that the Americans if angry, could put 10% or 20% duty on all Chinese imports. That will shutdown most factories in China.

CHINA AND MUCH OF THE REST OF THE WORLD (OTHER THAN MURICA BROWN NOSERS) KNOW MURICA IS IMPOTENT

DICK IS LIMP AND WITH ALL THE BLUE PILLS, CAN NEVER BE ERECT.


MURICA IS SPIRALLING INTO OWN BLACK HOLE AND ALL KEY CITIES OF MURICA TURNING INTO CESSPOOLS OF ZOMBIES AND HOMELESS FOLKS

ANGER OF MURICA IS TOTALLY LAUGHABLE
ANGER OF MURICA IS TOTALLY LAUGHABLE

ANGER OF MURICA IS TOTALLY LAUGHABLE
ANGER OF MURICA IS TOTALLY LAUGHABLE

 

[antonius123]

why do you people make stuff up? gallium extraction from Bayer Red Mud/ Liquor is the most common method of gallium Production- it’s not new technology.

Gallium has been recovered on an industrial scale from such spent, impurity-rich Bayer process liquor by a number of different methods, including fractional precipitation, electrolysis, cementation and ion exchange with amidoxime-functionalized resins.14 Of these methods, ion exchange is currently considered the most effective, resulting in it being the most widely applied. Extraction of gallium from simulated Bayer process liquor by Kelex 100 dissolved in ionic liquids - Dalton Transactions (RSC Publishing) DOI:10.1039/C9DT04623B pubs.rsc.org

Then why Bayer stock is declining?

It is supposed to increase significantly because market expect the upcoming skyrocketing Gallium price that Bayer supply abundantly. Care to explain?

 

[antonius123]

You know there is 3 billion tons of Bayer red mud (BRM) - the by product of aluminum extraction in the world, the US has a 100 million tons. How much Gallium do you think we can extract from a 100 million tons of red mud?

Answer: 8,000 Tons of Gallium that’s enough Gallium for the next 100 years

Here are some of the companies that produce red mud, along with the estimated amount they produce per year:

Company	Country	Estimated amount produced per year (tons)
Aluminium Corporation of China	China	1.5 million
Rio Tinto	Australia	1 million
Alcoa	United States	500,000
Norsk Hydro	Norway	300,000
EGA	United Arab Emirates	200,000

 

[kingQamaR]

It doesn't matter what resources America has... it would take 5 years to gets mines and processing plants up and running. Within 6 months most of the tech firms military would be in trouble? That’s what I read hard to believe this?

 

[dbc]

It is supposed to increase significantly because market expect the upcoming skyrocketing Gallium price that Bayer supply abundantly. Care to explain?

The Bayer process was invented in 1888 by Carl Josef Bayer.

The Bayer Company was founded by a dye salesman named Friedrich Bayer.

The two have nothing in common.

 

[antonius123]

The Bayer process was invented in 1888 by Carl Josef Bayer.

The Bayer Company was founded by a dye salesman named Friedrich Bayer.

The two have nothing in common.

Then forget it.

The Bayer process is not used to produce gallium. The Bayer process is a chemical process that is primarily used for extracting alumina (aluminum oxide) from bauxite ore, which is the main source of aluminum. The process involves dissolving the alumina from the bauxite ore using caustic soda (sodium hydroxide).

Gallium, on the other hand, is not produced directly from the Bayer process. Gallium is a separate element and is not typically extracted from bauxite ore. Gallium is obtained as a byproduct during the processing of other metals, such as aluminum and zinc.

Gallium is mainly produced as a byproduct of the aluminum smelting process, where it accumulates in the bauxite residue, also known as red mud. Red mud contains various metals, including gallium, which can be extracted and purified from the residue through additional processing steps.

Therefore, while the Bayer process is used in the production of alumina, it is not directly involved in the production of gallium. Gallium is obtained as a byproduct from other industrial processes, such as the refining of aluminum and zinc ores.

 

[dbc]

Then forget it.

The Bayer process is not used to produce gallium. The Bayer process is a chemical process that is primarily used for extracting alumina (aluminum oxide) from bauxite ore, which is the main source of aluminum. The process involves dissolving the alumina from the bauxite ore using caustic soda (sodium hydroxide).

Gallium, on the other hand, is not produced directly from the Bayer process. Gallium is a separate element and is not typically extracted from bauxite ore. Gallium is obtained as a byproduct during the processing of other metals, such as aluminum and zinc.

Gallium is mainly produced as a byproduct of the aluminum smelting process, where it accumulates in the bauxite residue, also known as red mud. Red mud contains various metals, including gallium, which can be extracted and purified from the residue through additional processing steps.

Therefore, while the Bayer process is used in the production of alumina, it is not directly involved in the production of gallium. Gallium is obtained as a byproduct from other industrial processes, such as the refining of aluminum and zinc ores.

BS..

Bayer liquor is the biggest raw material resource for gallium production. Four kinds of methods have been developed to recover gallium from Bayer solutions, including fractional precipitation, electrochemical deposition, solvent extraction, and ion exchange.

Recovery of gallium from Bayer liquor: A review

Bayer liquor is the biggest raw material resource for gallium production. Four kinds of methods have been developed to recover gallium from Bayer solu…

www.sciencedirect.com

 

[antonius123]

BS..

Yours is the BS..

Bayer process and Bayer Liquor are 2 different things. Understand it at the first place. LOL

 

[Song Hong]

Pentagon has strategic germanium stockpile but no gallium reserves

Pentagon has strategic germanium stockpile but no gallium reserves

The Pentagon holds a strategic U.S. stockpile for germanium but currently has no inventory reserves for gallium, a spokesperson said on Thursday, after China announced export restrictions on the two metals used in semiconductors.

www.reuters.com

 

[dbc]

Yours is the BS..

Bayer process and Bayer Liquor are 2 different things. Understand it at the first place. LOL

Go back to school and learn how to read. Of course, Bayer process and Bayer Liquor / Bayer Mud are two different things. One is a process, the other is a by-product of the Bayer Process.Notice the Red Mud Residue in the below process diagram.

 

[OIO]

Go back to school and learn how to read. Of course, Bayer process and Bayer Liquor / Bayer Mud are two different things. One is a process, the other is a by-product of the Bayer Process.Notice the Red Mud Residue in the below process diagram.

It's a meaningless quarrel, you won't convince each other, time will tell everything.

 

[dbc]

It's a meaningless quarrel, you won't convince each other, time will tell everything.

Well the difference is I have scientific citations to back up my point of view.
While @antonius123 has got nothing.

 

[antonius123]

Go back to school and learn how to read. Of course, Bayer process and Bayer Liquor / Bayer Mud are two different things. One is a process, the other is a by-product of the Bayer Process.Notice the Red Mud Residue in the below process diagram.

Then your argument has no meaning except total BS circling around.

Bayer process is not helping you to produce Gallium. As I've told you before: producing gallium from red mud is still challenging economically and technically. The concentration of gallium in red mud is typically low, making it challenging to extract and recover gallium in significant quantities. The extraction processes from red mud involve complex steps, such as leaching, purification, precipitation, and refining, which may not be economically feasible on a large scale due to the low gallium concentration.

Just tell me who is producing/extracting Gallium from red mud? answer: none! LOL

Well the difference is I have scientific citations to back up my point of view.
While @antonius123 has got nothing.

Your citation doesn't support your claim about producing gallium from red mud feasibly. Producing gallium from red mud is possible theoretically, but not practically yet. Just tell me a company already producing gallium from red mud if you can. Maybe someday it can be realized, but still take long time to go. So stop dreaming.

 

[antonius123]

5 years of gallium scarcity is enough time to make Western - Taiwan - Korea & Japan chip industry a mess, and enough time for China to produce EUV Lithography @dbc @Hamartia Antidote @gambit