China’s disregard of PCA ruling may damage its image: RoK expert

[Beidou2020]

This becoming from funny to pathetic...

If China does not agree to what we say...then China looses image and will not look pretty in the picture! If you don't believe..look here is the expert telling the truth. Blieve the expert, please...

This circus is useless but will keep going for a while. The allies of the pivot from north to south, will keep repeating the lines written by their master.

Why must we suffer the fools?

These chumps still don't get it. They think China will eventually back down from the SCS claims.

There is NOTHING anyone can do to stop China from developing the islands in the SCS. No court, no military, no nothing.

China will develop the islands, then militarise them. That's final.

Not a damn thing anyone can do to stop it!

 

[xunzi]

Image is for the weak. LOL

 

[footmarks]

These chumps still don't get it. They think China will eventually back down from the SCS claims.

There is NOTHING anyone can do to stop China from developing the islands in the SCS. No court, no military, no nothing.

China will develop the islands, then militarise them. That's final.

Not a damn thing anyone can do to stop it!

Whether one like it or not, this is the reality. Might is right.

 

[seven7seven]

At the end of the day, countries only care if something affects them or not. Most countries in the World do not care enough about SCS issue to risk upsetting China over it. USA will not risk taking on China directly. Vietnam and Philippines don't have political clout or military might to take on China. What does that mean?

It means China will keep doing what it has been doing in SCS and USA, Vietnam and Philippines will just keep whinging and hoping to drag other countries into a dispute they don't care enough about and/or don't want any part of.

 

[Mangus Ortus Novem]

The strength of Chinese Soft Power is so immense that if channelled correctly we gain an even more positive boost than we already have.

With the development of cultural industry this will change over time.

But China is lacking in communication at every front. Every time it is reactionary actions.

Why can't China be the master of her positive global narrative?

State run media is lacking behind on every front. And always on the defensive.

Where are Chinese global channels to engage the global audience?

But then this is typical Chinese thing. Not interferring into internal affairs of others.

China needs to stop being so introvert and develop a comprehensive communication strategy.

Even being right in SCS & ECS, there has not be a single effort to get the truth to the global audience.

Time to engage the world with positive and confident manner.

OBOR deverses a better communication strategy at all levels from the State to the public.

Time to develop the China Brand in every aspect.

 

[gambit]

At the end of the day, countries only care if something affects them or not. Most countries in the World do not care enough about SCS issue to risk upsetting China over it.

At the end of the day, any of those 'Most countries' that do not care do not have much economic interests in the region to start, so pleasing China is pointless.

USA will not risk taking on China directly.

Are you speaking from extensive personal experience in diplomacy ? People like you said the same thing about US and Iraq.

The South China Sea is not worth China taking on US, Japan, South Korea, and just about every country in the region. China will lose in any military confrontation. No matter what the PDF Chinese says, China will not 'nuke' anyone over the SCS. But your shortsightedness made you missed one point in that if China decides to make it a shooting fight and WHEN China loses that military confrontation, that loss will reinforce US controls over that body of water. The PLAN is not a 'blue water' navy and that distance from mainland China does make it a 'blue water' region, a military loss and the PLAN will lose significant resources and face.

 

[BoQ77]

Although, ASEAN didn't point out directly "the name", they pointed out that the land reclamation damaged the trust and regional security and they support the peaceful way to resolve the conflict including nego or arbitration ...
The diplomatic statement couldn't point to exact a country, but the implication tells all.

What China doing is trying to hide their loss at The Hague, not to public reveal.

This is the way China argue
( from globaltime )

"We remain seriously concerned over recent and ongoing developments and took note of the concerns expressed by some ministers on the land reclamations and escalation of activities in the area, which have eroded trust and confidence, increased tensions and may undermine peace, security and stability in the region," the joint communiqué read.
Wang said there was nothing new about the statement and that ASEAN has in the past expressed several times their "serious concern" over the South China Sea disputes and that China too is "concerned."
However, the land reclamation mentioned in the communiqué pointed to a different country other than China. China is not the one reclaiming land right now, Wang said at the press conference, adding that he will not name names.

 

[Beidou2020]

At the end of the day, any of those 'Most countries' that do not care do not have much economic interests in the region to start, so pleasing China is pointless.


Are you speaking from extensive personal experience in diplomacy ? People like you said the same thing about US and Iraq.

The South China Sea is not worth China taking on US, Japan, South Korea, and just about every country in the region. China will lose in any military confrontation. No matter what the PDF Chinese says, China will not 'nuke' anyone over the SCS. But your shortsightedness made you missed one point in that if China decides to make it a shooting fight and WHEN China loses that military confrontation, that loss will reinforce US controls over that body of water. The PLAN is not a 'blue water' navy and that distance from mainland China does make it a 'blue water' region, a military loss and the PLAN will lose significant resources and face.

Ahhhhhhh the Vietnamese PlayStation expert on strawman arguments strikes once AGAIN

China is straight up looking the United States right in the eyes and challenging the status quo of American dominance in the SCS and the US military lacks the balls to stop Chinese development of those islands.

There ain't a damn thing ANYONE will do to stop China from doing exactly what it is doing RIGHT NOW!

Tag me IF the US finds its nutsack to actually start destroying those Chinese facilities in the SCS.

 

[Place Of Space]

Seems China ever had good image in mighty Western eyes.

The West conquered the rest part by violence and gun before WWII, China was one of three or four non-West nations maitain independence. The West got mad, described China as a devil dragon because they had no better method to control China.

After WWII, specially the cold war, the America run the medias to conqurer China, but they still failed, China still don't accept their ideology. China collapsing is happening year after year. But at this moment, China images becomes more complicated. China is collapsing while China is challenging America. We slowly become mighty and imperialism China.

I ignored there was two period, China had not bad image in America. One was during WWII, the West need China to counter against Japanese invasion. The another time was during end of cold war, the West need China to counter USSR.
It explains China had good or bad image which is up to the Western needs, very funny.

 

[Beidou2020]

Image is for the weak. LOL

The only image getting destroyed is of American invincibility.

China is directly challenging American dominance in the SCS and they can't do a damn thing to stop China.

China is calling out the US.

Saying if you got the balls to shoot at us, go ahead. We will keep developing and militarising the islands.

I guarantee you if this was a weak country with a weak military doing this, US military would have already destroyed the facilities in those islands.

Unfortunately for the US, this is China they are dealing with. The same country that pushed the US and its puppets out of North Korea with a volunteer army with rifles.

China gives the US the middle finger and say we will do what we please.

 

[BoQ77]

Canadian Statement on the South China Sea Arbitration
Posted by Rosa Tran ⋅ July 24, 2016 ⋅ Leave a comment
Filed Under Canada, China, Philippines, South China Sea, U-shaped line, UNCLOS
July 21, 2016 – Ottawa, Ontario – Global Affairs Canada

The Honourable Stéphane Dion, Minister of Foreign Affairs, today issued the following statement:

“International law provides the foundation upon which peaceful relations among states are built, and promoting the development and use of international law to resolve difficult problems underpins Canadian foreign policy.

“On July 12, 2016, the tribunal constituted under the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea rendered a decision in the matter of the South China Sea Arbitration, which is binding on the parties to it.

“Whether one agrees or not with the ruling, Canada believes that the parties should comply with it. All parties should seize this opportunity as a stepping stone to renewed efforts to peacefully manage and resolve their disputes, in accordance with international law.

“We are deeply concerned about regional tensions that have been escalating for a number of years and have the potential to undermine peace and stability.

“It is essential that all states in the region exercise restraint and avoid coercion and actions that will escalate tension.

“All claimants must refrain from land reclamation, militarization and other actions that can undermine regional security and stability. Actions that could jeopardize freedom of navigation and overflight exercised in accordance with international law, maritime security and international trade must also be avoided.

“We urge all claimants to restore trust and confidence, including through the full and effective implementation of the Declaration on the Conduct of the Parties in the South China Sea, and the expeditious negotiation of a binding Code of Conduct.

“Canada is committed to the maintenance of international law and to an international rules-based order for the oceans and seas, as well as to the peaceful management and settlements of disputes. Canada therefore stands ready to contribute to initiatives that build confidence and help restore trust in the region.”

Source: Global Affairs Canada

 

[CAPRICORN-88]

Not every ASEAN member wants to get involved with either the Philippines or Vietnam agenda. I would says these nations are pretty smart as their nations interest come first.

Moreover the other claimant states still have related ongoing sea border issue with these two apart from China.

 

[Place Of Space]

Canadian Statement on the South China Sea Arbitration
Posted by Rosa Tran ⋅ July 24, 2016 ⋅ Leave a comment
Filed Under Canada, China, Philippines, South China Sea, U-shaped line, UNCLOS
July 21, 2016 – Ottawa, Ontario – Global Affairs Canada

The Honourable Stéphane Dion, Minister of Foreign Affairs, today issued the following statement:

“International law provides the foundation upon which peaceful relations among states are built, and promoting the development and use of international law to resolve difficult problems underpins Canadian foreign policy.

“On July 12, 2016, the tribunal constituted under the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea rendered a decision in the matter of the South China Sea Arbitration, which is binding on the parties to it.

“Whether one agrees or not with the ruling, Canada believes that the parties should comply with it. All parties should seize this opportunity as a stepping stone to renewed efforts to peacefully manage and resolve their disputes, in accordance with international law.

“We are deeply concerned about regional tensions that have been escalating for a number of years and have the potential to undermine peace and stability.

“It is essential that all states in the region exercise restraint and avoid coercion and actions that will escalate tension.

“All claimants must refrain from land reclamation, militarization and other actions that can undermine regional security and stability. Actions that could jeopardize freedom of navigation and overflight exercised in accordance with international law, maritime security and international trade must also be avoided.

“We urge all claimants to restore trust and confidence, including through the full and effective implementation of the Declaration on the Conduct of the Parties in the South China Sea, and the expeditious negotiation of a binding Code of Conduct.

“Canada is committed to the maintenance of international law and to an international rules-based order for the oceans and seas, as well as to the peaceful management and settlements of disputes. Canada therefore stands ready to contribute to initiatives that build confidence and help restore trust in the region.”

Source: Global Affairs Canada

Very good statement.
Will the Philippines and Vietnam in near years counter against the "full and effective implementation of the Declaration on the Conduct of the Parties in the South China Sea, and the expeditious negotiation of a binding Code of Conduct."? If they do this action, the rest of ASEAN nations will feel deep anxious, because the action may break up ASEAN. DOC will bind China-ASEAN more closely. We urge Amreica and Japan can welcome the cooperation, but I reserve suspicion.

 

[AViet]

Instead, it will raise China's image in the whole world. Before, many people in Vietnam (mostly in the South) thought China would fear the US mighty military power (even North Vietnam, at its lowest point of economy) did not) and back up, but now they realize the truth.

I am a little surprised that the young people (around 20-25) now seem to love China more than the older (35-45). Oppo is the most sold smartphone in 2016 until now.

As a natural instinct, people will always respect the wealthy and strong countries, not the ones with beautiful but empty labels like democracy, human rights and so on.

 

[Mangus Ortus Novem]

Very good statement.
Will the Philippines and Vietnam in near years counter against the "full and effective implementation of the Declaration on the Conduct of the Parties in the South China Sea, and the expeditious negotiation of a binding Code of Conduct."? If they do this action, the rest of ASEAN nations will feel deep ambicious, because the action may break up ASEAN. DOC will bind China-ASEAN more closely. We urge Amreica and Japan can welcome the cooperation, but I reserve suspicion.

China has been offering a peaceful solution for this unnecessary mess for so long...have been extremely accomodating to smaller nations.

But instead of listening to China, some listen to trouble makers.

Sad.

Regardless, it is duty of BeiJing to protect the Sovereignity of State accordingy to historic truth and wishes of the Chinese Peoples.