China's Blitzkrieg on U.S. Carrier

[j20blackdragon]

Here's the B-2.

We found it.

http://media.defenseindustrydaily.com/images/AIR_B-2_Close_View_IR_lg.gif

 

[Oldman1]

The US was around 13 times as rich as Japan in WW2.

China is around 75% of the US level now and it should pass US in the next 3-4 years at current growth rates.

Also China has far greater land mass and natural resources than Japan.

The Soviet Union GDP peaked at around 40% of US GDP



China will turn out to be a far more formidable foe than the Soviet Union ever was.

Japan was ahead of us in terms of military power at the time before we had total mobilization, they had the Japanese Zero and bigger battleships with many experienced personnel. And the Soviets had a bigger land mass before the fall of the Soviet Union and bigger military than the U.S.

Here's the B-2.

We found it.

http://media.defenseindustrydaily.com/images/AIR_B-2_Close_View_IR_lg.gif

Is that a camera from the J10? As I said before you can only cover so much airspace.

The US was around 13 times as rich as Japan in WW2.

China is around 75% of the US level now and it should pass US in the next 3-4 years at current growth rates.

Also China has far greater land mass and natural resources than Japan.

The Soviet Union GDP peaked at around 40% of US GDP



China will turn out to be a far more formidable foe than the Soviet Union ever was.



Rought estimate from available public sources. B-2 is not invisible.

Public sources is just public. Never said it was invisible, but its hard to detect and all you have is speculation. Hence why I asked you if you know its true specs.

 

[amalakas]

Here's the B-2.

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So, the rough plan is to send J-20s towards the general location of a Carrier Battle Group, which has AEGIS equipped ships blasting the air with EMR and ready to launch a very capable anti air weapon.
then your plan is to launch the DF-21D towards that area and have the J-20s broadcast to the whole world they are there so a carrier can be hit.

OK. If you think that is reasonable that is fine by me.

thinks to point out.

1. The J-20 is VLO, it is not invisible, which means that for those Naval Radars, it can be eventually be picked up.

2. the J-20 needs to come close to the actual carrier to pinpoint it's exact location. Remember, the carrier is moving at about 50km/h .. so simply pointing the warhead there isn't enough.

3. How many chinese planes do you actually know that carry equipment that relays targeting information about anything to anywhere ? I am making this point because you have to know that an aircraft's radar is targeting tracks relative to itself, not some global system.

Only recently and only few aircraft have the ability to share targeting info.

 

[j20blackdragon]

So, the rough plan is to send J-20s towards the general location of a Carrier Battle Group, which has AEGIS equipped ships blasting the air with EMR and ready to launch a very capable anti air weapon.
then your plan is to launch the DF-21D towards that area and have the J-20s broadcast to the whole world they are there so a carrier can be hit.

OK. If you think that is reasonable that is fine by me.

thinks to point out.

1. The J-20 is VLO, it is not invisible, which means that for those Naval Radars, it can be eventually be picked up.

2. the J-20 needs to come close to the actual carrier to pinpoint it's exact location. Remember, the carrier is moving at about 50km/h .. so simply pointing the warhead there isn't enough.

3. How many chinese planes do you actually know that carry equipment that relays targeting information about anything to anywhere ? I am making this point because you have to know that an aircraft's radar is targeting tracks relative to itself, not some global system.

Only recently and only few aircraft have the ability to share targeting info.

Those AEGIS ships you mentioned will also get hit by the DF-21D.

China will send in every single J-20 and J-15 we got to provide targeting information for the DF-21D.

Good luck.

 

[j20blackdragon]

This situation is very simple.

If you drop a single bomb on Chinese territory, all your forward bases will be hit by missile and J-20 airstrikes.

If you go nuclear, China goes nuclear.

Go ahead and bring it.

 

[amalakas]

Those AEGIS ships you mentioned will also get hit by the DF-21D.

China will send in every single J-20 and J-15 we got to provide targeting information for the DF-21D.

Good luck.

childish .....................

 

[Abdi-Karim Elmi]

In a hypothetical war, the USA would have allies in the pacific namely Japan. Kongo class Ageis combat system will dominare PLAN anti shipping system and shoot down J 20 using ASEA Radar and EWS. Then it will gain naval dominance in the sea of Japan before the USA mobilises its full reserves.

 

[SinoChallenger]

The US was around 13 times as rich as Japan in WW2.

China is around 75% of the US level now and it should pass US in the next 3-4 years at current growth rates.

Also China has far greater land mass and natural resources than Japan.

The Soviet Union GDP peaked at around 40% of US GDP



China will turn out to be a far more formidable foe than the Soviet Union ever was.

That's right. Japan was defeated because it tried to take on China and fell into a quagmire. USSR was defeated because it tried to take on China and got a bloody nose in numerous border skirmishes in Central Asia and the Far East. China is the victor of both WW2 and the Cold War. Now we are fighting with the other "victor" to see who is #1 superpower.

USA will be defeated because it is trying to take on China after we already secured our maritime periphery with DF-21D and J-20 and we will secure our shipping routes with naval bases in Myanmar and Cambodia within 5-10 years. The American empire will sunset before 2025.

http://www.defence.pk/forums/world-...anmar-pipeline-online-2013-a.html#post3279011

Those AEGIS ships you mentioned will also get hit by the DF-21D.

China will send in every single J-20 and J-15 we got to provide targeting information for the DF-21D.

Good luck.

Yes and don't forget J-10B entered service.

In a hypothetical war, the USA would have allies in the pacific namely Japan. Kongo class Ageis combat system will dominare PLAN anti shipping system and shoot down J 20 using ASEA Radar and EWS. Then it will gain naval dominance in the sea of Japan before the USA mobilises its full reserves.

How can a Kongo destroyer hit a stealth fighter it cannot even see? Nor can it see the stealth high supersonic ramjet anti-ship missile that J-20 carries.

 

[j20blackdragon]

In a hypothetical war, the USA would have allies in the pacific namely Japan. Kongo class Ageis combat system will dominare PLAN anti shipping system and shoot down J 20 using ASEA Radar and EWS. Then it will gain naval dominance in the sea of Japan before the USA mobilises its full reserves.

Japan's entire navy can be sunk in port anytime China wants to.

Does anyone remember the attack on Pearl Harbor?

 

[Mercenary]

Japan's entire navy can be sunk in port anytime China wants to.

Does anyone remember the attack on Pearl Harbor?

Pearl Harbor didn't sink the entire Pacific Navy.

Only a few battleships were sunk and rest were damaged and the Carriers were unscathed.

US defeted Japan decisively 6 months later in Midway.

Perhaps thats the fate that awaits China. China launches a foolish attack using Land based Anti-Ship missiles damaging a few ships and then US uses Submarine Warfare and Carrier BattleGroups to impose a naval embargo on China.

 

[ajtr]

China-USA Shadow boxing is like this scene........sorry no english sub...

 

[UKBengali]

Pearl Harbor didn't sink the entire Pacific Navy.

Only a few battleships were sunk and rest were damaged and the Carriers were unscathed.

US defeted Japan decisively 6 months later in Midway.

Perhaps thats the fate that awaits China. China launches a foolish attack using Land based Anti-Ship missiles damaging a few ships and then US uses Submarine Warfare and Carrier BattleGroups to impose a naval embargo on China.

Japan is not US.

DF-21D and Type-095 SSNs will await the US carriers.

Anyway China will not go to war till around 2025, when it will have enough resources to annihilate US forces in the Eastern Pacific.

Remember China will have "home-turf" advantage so all the US will have will be what they have on their carrier battle groups.China will have it's whole Navy, Airforce and missiles based on land to pummel the US Navy.

 

[Esc8781]

UYou guys should search up the aircraft carrier's defense systems it has a whole lot of them. Cough cough rail gun cough.

 

[Mercenary]

Japan is not US.

DF-21D and Type-095 SSNs will await the US carriers.

Anyway China will not go to war till around 2025, when it will have enough resources to annihilate US forces in the Eastern Pacific.

Remember China will have "home-turf" advantage so all the US will have will be what they have on their carrier battle groups.China will have it's whole Navy, Airforce and missiles based on land to pummel the US Navy.

Annhiliate?

US is scaling down its forces in the Middle East and building up its forces in the Pacific and by 2025, US will have new weapon systems that will negate all advantages that China has such as their Carrier Killer Missile.

By 2025, 60% of all US forces will be in the Pacific. And not only that, South Korea, Japan, Australia, Philippines, Vietnam, Taiwan, Thailand, Singapore and others are all US allies and will join forces to fight China and with years of buying Arms from USA, all of them will very lethal foes to China.

Any China vs USA war in 2025, will look like what happened to Iraq during the Gulf War, when all of the American Arab Allies joined forces to fight Saddam.

 

[amalakas]

Annhiliate?

US is scaling down its forces in the Middle East and building up its forces in the Pacific and by 2025, US will have new weapon systems that will negate all advantages that China has such as their Carrier Killer Missile.

By 2025, 60% of all US forces will be in the Pacific. And not only that, South Korea, Japan, Australia, Philippines, Vietnam, Taiwan, Thailand, Singapore and others are all US allies and will join forces to fight China and with years of buying Arms from USA, all of them will very lethal foes to China.

Any China vs USA war in 2025, will look like what happened to Iraq during the Gulf War, when all of the American Arab Allies joined forces to fight Saddam.

this missile is nothing more than a minor thought to US mission planners ..