China's aircraft-carrier

[aimarraul]

 

[592257001]

Any guesses on what radar will be fitted? phased array?

 

[faithfulguy]

Any guesses on what radar will be fitted? phased array?

Should be as its already installed on the DDG

 

[Kompromat]

Cant wait to see this Ship Parked at Gawadar

 

[592257001]

Cant wait to see this Ship Parked at Gawadar

Agreed. Although that might not happen until there's a period of serious tension between Pakistan and India. It wouldn't be beneficial for neither nations if India takes it as deterrence against India and as a act of hostility and starts a arms race with Pakistan.

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

Well does China plan to train on a STOBAR ship and then use CATOBAR.

i am just trying to find out what configuration is being used.

WHAT A BEAUTIFUL craft carrier would be amazing to see Chinese planes on it and full chinese flag on it protecting the Asian waters from intruder "PIRATES"

 

[T-50]

Chine brought half finished is one in 2001 and after 9 yrs it is still making, How much year it will take to make?

Even Small country like India can make new Aircraft Carrier more faster.

 

[aimarraul]

Chine brought half finished is one in 2001 and after 9 yrs it is still making, How much year it will take to make?

Even Small country like India can make new Aircraft Carrier more faster.

a chinese aircraft carrier battle group will cost over 50b yuan....we don't have enough budget till recent years .Indigenous ACG include lots of things,such as heavy-duty gas turbine ,carrier-based aircraft ，large frigate ，etc.these projects can't complete overnight.varyag will only be a training AC,no need to hurry,i think 300.000 blueprints are more important,those papers can help us design a new one

 

[feifanke]

Chine brought half finished is one in 2001 and after 9 yrs it is still making, How much year it will take to make?

Even Small country like India can make new Aircraft Carrier more faster.

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Could you tell me which AC was made by india?

 

[ssheppard]

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Could you tell me which AC was made by india?

Read this:


First indigenous aircraft carrier to be launched next year: Navy chief: India Today - Latest Breaking News from India, World, Business, Cricket, Sports, Bollywood.

 

[feifanke]

Read this:


First indigenous aircraft carrier to be launched next year: Navy chief: India Today - Latest Breaking News from India, World, Business, Cricket, Sports, Bollywood.

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long long ago , when i was a boy ,i heard a lot about LCA and Arjun.Maybe i need more paatience for indian's product.

wow ,or a nuclear-powered submarine without nuclear driven.

 

[faithfulguy]

Read this:


First indigenous aircraft carrier to be launched next year: Navy chief: India Today - Latest Breaking News from India, World, Business, Cricket, Sports, Bollywood.

How come India always release information about its weapon system before its completed. This put too much pressure on the people designing and building the system. In US, most projects are designed in secret and only release until the last possible moment. One example of such project is the F-117. In the US, stealth technology is a mature and a 70-80s technology. As a result, any new project using stealth can be publicly declared. As of now, no country can produce weaponry that US can come up with back in the 80s. That is because the US manage its information correctly. India, on the other hand, like to boast about its future project. As the future projects encounter problems and delay occurs, India become the butt of jokes. I think India should keep its weapons development info secret and only release in the last possible moment. Even the Chinese are doing that very well.

 

[ssheppard]

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long long ago , when i was a boy ,i heard a lot about LCA and Arjun.Maybe i need more paatience for indian's product.

wow ,or a nuclear-powered submarine without nuclear driven.

Well well..Now that you got your A Kicked ...on one argument....all thats left to do is trolling......


Anyways: Here is a piecde of History you might be interested in Reading:

China first began to discuss developing an indigenous aircraft carrier in the late 1970s. In 1985, China purchased the Australian carrier the HMAS Melbourne. Although the hull was scrapped, Chinese technicians studied the ship and built a replica of its fl ight deck for pilot training. With the demise of the Soviet Union, China purchased two former Soviet carriers – the Minsk in 1998 and the Kiev in 2000. Neither carrier was made operational; instead they were used as fl oating military theme parks. Nevertheless, both provided design information to PLA Navy engineers.

Attracting the most attention is China’s 1998 purchase of the ex-Varyag, a Kuznetsov-class Soviet carrier only 70 percent complete at the time of the Soviet Union’s collapse. Recent deck refurbishment, electrical work, fresh hull paint with PLA Navy markings, and expressed interest in Russia’s Su-33 fighter have re-kindled debate on a Chinese carrier fl eet. Though the PLA’s ultimate intentions remain unclear, a number of possibilities exist for the Varyag:

First operational aircraft carrier. Photos showing maintenance and repair on the hull and deck of the ship suggest this could be an option.

A training platform. Given the difficulty and expense in overhauling the ex-Varyag, it is possible, but doubtful, the PLA would invest the resources to develop it only for training purposes.
A transitional platform. The Varyag could act as a stand-in until an indigenous carrier can be completed, allowing the PLA Navy to use it as a model and gain experience.

Theme park. The Varyag could be exploited for its design and then scrapped for parts, turned into a floating theme park, or used for its originally stated purchase purpose – a casino.


Regardless of Beijing’s final objective for the ex-Varyag, it is facilitating PLA Navy engineers’ comprehensive study of the platform’s structural design, which could eventually assist China in creating its own carrier program. Some analysts in and out government predict that China could have an operational carrier by the end of the 12th Five-Year Plan (2011-2015), but others assess the earliest China could deploy an operational aircraft carrier is 2020 or beyond.



In October 2006, Lieutenant General Wang Zhiyuan, vice chairman of the Science and Technology Commission of the PLA’s General Armament Department stated that the “Chinese army will study how to manufacture aircraft carriers so that we can develop our own.... Aircraft carriers are indispensable if we want to protect our interests in oceans.”


There does not appear to be evidence that China has begun construction of an aircraft carrier. However, evidence in recent years increasingly suggests China’s leaders may be moving forward with an aircraft carrier program. For example, beginning in early 2006 and with the release of China’s Eleventh Five Year Plan, PRC-owned media reported on statements from high-level government and military officials on China’s intent to build aircraft carriers – including a March 2007 statement from the then-minister of China’s Commission on Science, Technology and Industry for National Defense (COSTIND).

Continued renovations to the former Soviet Kuznetsov-class aircraft carrier suggest China may choose to use the platform for training purposes. Moreover, Russian press has reported Chinese interest in acquiring Russian Su-33 carrier-borne fighters. In October 2006 a Russian press report suggested early-stage negotiations were underway for China to purchase up to 50 such aircraft at a cost of $2.5 billion. However, there has been no announcement of a contract for the aircraft.

Analysts in and out of government project that China could not have an operational, domestically-produced carrier before 2015. However, changes in China’s shipbuilding capability and degree of foreign assistance to the program could alter those projections.

China has an aircraft carrier research and design program, which includes continued renovations to the former Soviet Kuznetsov-class aircraft carrier VARYAG. Beginning in early 2006 with the release of China’s Eleventh Five Year Plan, PRC-owned media reported high-level government and military official statements on China’s intent to build aircraft carriers. In December 2008, China’s Ministry of National Defense spokesman Senior Colonel Huang Xueping said “China has vast oceans and it is the sovereign responsibility of China’s armed forces to ensure the country’s maritime security and uphold the sovereignty of its coastal waters as well as its maritime rights and interests,” and added that China is “seriously considering” adding an aircraft carrier to its fleet, because “the aircraft carrier is a symbol of a country’s overall national strength, as well as the competitiveness of the country’s naval force.” This was preceded by a November 2008 statement by the Director of the Ministry of National Defense, Foreign Affairs Office, Major General Qian Lihua, that “having an aircraft carrier is the dream of any great military power,” and “the question is not whether you have an aircraft carrier, but what you do with your aircraft carrier.”

China continues to show interest in procuring Su-33 carrier-borne fighters from Russia even though the ex-VARYAG aircraft carrier has yet to complete refurbishment at Dalian shipyard. In October 2006, a Russian press report suggested early-stage negotiations were underway for China to purchase up to 50 such aircraft at a cost of $2.5 billion. However, there has been no announcement of a contract for the aircraft.

The PLA Navy has reportedly decided to initiate a program to train 50 navy pilots to operate fixed-wing aircraft from an aircraft carrier. The program was reported to be four years long and would be followed by ship-borne training involving the ex-VARYAG. Analysts in and out of government project that China will not have an operational, domestically-produced carrier and associated ships before 2015. However, changes in China’s shipbuilding capability and degree of foreign assistance to the program could alter those projections. The PLA Navy is considering building multiple carriers by 2020.

http://www.varyagworld.com/

 

[feifanke]

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[T-50]

a chinese aircraft carrier battle group will cost over 50b yuan....we don't have enough budget till recent years .Indigenous ACG include lots of things,such as heavy-duty gas turbine ,carrier-based aircraft ，large frigate ，etc.these projects can't complete overnight.varyag will only be a training AC,no need to hurry,i think 300.000 blueprints are more important,those papers can help us design a new one

Enough'f Budget ? what is navy budget by the way? no complete over night but can complete in 5 years.


training Aircraft carrier? or you want to copy the same one into new one, you bought half finished one and couldn't complete till now?, Even Russia which don't have any blue print for aircraft carrier which they making for India able to complete it in these years.