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I don't have to explain. I'll let your own government explain to your people, in such a dramatic way like they talk about the Indian movies. Everything is filled with drama in terms of affairs with India it seems like.

You have no choice but to join this project. Instead of doing it the right way and from the beginning, you guys first wanted to show how "macho-man" you've become and that you could stop the CPEC. Now, that obviously couldn't happen and your entire ops from Baluchistan are gone. Iran has also told you they won't side with you, openly or hidden against the Pakistanis as Pakistanis are protecting their national security by not joining hands with the Saudis against Iran. So its a check mate for India on CPEC. Last option, like I analyzed years ago, is to join the CPEC. Now the dramatic show will be put on to show the Indian public that the "name was changed" :rofl:. Unbelievable crap and sadly how Indian people believe in their government's drama. This is worst face saving in the worst way possible.

A personal facing the lion can't change the name of the beast in his own head. The lion would still be the lion even if the personal called it a pussy-cat. Similarly, the CPEC's core function is Pakistani port's integration with other OBOR initiatives. By changing the name, nothing can stop Pakistan from becoming an economic power.
Wow the amount of free time you have to type so much of useless bullshit is phenomenal.

I will conclude in one line, india have no profits for joining CPEC , so tell your chinese friends to stop trying to convince us.

Lol China don't need India to get into IOR :lol:, we have CPEC why we need India for that? as to access to Russia via China, I don't think that's part of the deal until a miracle happen...the best is India keep their hope of Chabahar for now. At matter of fact, China get nothing out of India for invite it into OBOR and you ask us to grant India a strategic route to central Asia and Russia as condition to join OBOR, you're really funny :rofl:.
You sound funny coz its china inviting india, not the other way round.
If there is nothing in inviting india then why invite in first place.
Stop bothering us and go on with your project.
 
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You sound funny coz its china inviting india, not the other way round. If there is nothing in inviting india then why invite in first place. Stop bothering us and go on with your project.

Lol that is the question I'm curious to seek for the answer, what's China interest to invite India into OBOR? imagine with CPEC India is already been very upset with China now if we exclude India from OBOR, what gonna happen? :lol:
 
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Lol China don't need India to get into IOR :lol:, we have CPEC all the way to Gwadar why we need India for that? as to access to Russia via China, I don't think that's part of the deal until a miracle happen...the best is India keep their hope of Chabahar for now. At matter of fact, China get nothing out of India for invite it into OBOR and you ask us to grant India a strategic route to central Asia and Russia as condition to join OBOR, you're really funny :rofl:.

I have already said what I need to say on the below post. I have no interest in joining a troll fest with you.

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/chin...r-to-appease-india.494347/page-5#post-9460470

Lol that is the question I'm curious to seek for the answer, what's China interest to invite India into OBOR? imagine with CPEC India is already been very upset with China now if we exclude India from OBOR, what gonna happen? :lol:

Is CPEC part of OBOR?
 
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I don't have to explain. I'll let your own government explain to your people, in such a dramatic way like they talk about the Indian movies. Everything is filled with drama in terms of affairs with India it seems like.

You have no choice but to join this project. Instead of doing it the right way and from the beginning, you guys first wanted to show how "macho-man" you've become and that you could stop the CPEC. Now, that obviously couldn't happen and your entire ops from Baluchistan are gone. Iran has also told you they won't side with you, openly or hidden against the Pakistanis as Pakistanis are protecting their national security by not joining hands with the Saudis against Iran. So its a check mate for India on CPEC. Last option, like I analyzed years ago, is to join the CPEC. Now the dramatic show will be put on to show the Indian public that the "name was changed" :rofl:. Unbelievable crap and sadly how Indian people believe in their government's drama. This is worst face saving in the worst way possible.

A personal facing the lion can't change the name of the beast in his own head. The lion would still be the lion even if the personal called it a pussy-cat. Similarly, the CPEC's core function is Pakistani port's integration with other OBOR initiatives. By changing the name, nothing can stop Pakistan from becoming an economic power.

we are not believed in Name Changing and more ever we are not received any Official Information

for India not need to sign in CPEC since it's a 2's country Corridor

If India joins in OBOR India should submit and get signed in separate Proposal which will benefit us to joining OBOR by Accessing Russia and Central Asia with out spending single Penny in CPEC

"What's in a name? That which we call a rose
By any other name would smell as sweet."
- William Shakespeare (Romeo & Juliet)

Name changing can be done if India joins in CPEC then name will be like India-China-Pakistan Economic Corridor
 
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I have never heard any new that China is officially begging India to join CPEC or OBOR beside making some offer and that's about it, but I do see a lot of India's complain about CPEC and Indian official put negative comment on OBOR ...LMAO :rofl:. Only India's media like to made emotive and sensational fabrication such as China keep insisting India to join.
Chinese leaders are stupid even to mention to give India a piece of the pie. Look like China all greed and not care about her ally as much. Would have been a great opportunity to further weaken India and strengthen Pakistan.
 
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Wow the amount of free time you have to type so much of useless bullshit is phenomenal.

I will conclude in one line, india have no profits for joining CPEC , so tell your chinese friends to stop trying to convince us..

India has no way out of this but to join the CPEC. The Pakistanis will be expanding their IT, Manufacturing and Trade deals with the Central Russian States and with Russia and Iran on the other end, eventually reaching out to Europe. You want to see Pakistanis eat your lunch.....have at it. Tell Modi not to put up a show and not join :enjoy:

The reality is, Indian manufacturing and various other companies will lose out on billions if India didn't join. If Modi had some actual brains, instead of "hoping" to destroy or damage the project through Baluchstan, he'd have joined. But some people don't like peace and stability. Well, there is a cost for that and that cost isn't getting digested by your officials very well at this point.
 
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Lol that is the question I'm curious to seek for the answer, what's China interest to invite India into OBOR? imagine with CPEC India is already been very upset with China now if we exclude India from OBOR, what gonna happen? :lol:

if India itself reluctant and rejected to join OBOR then what does the point of excluding it ?
It sounds strange isn't it ? :-)
 
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Lol that is the question I'm curious to seek for the answer, what's China interest to invite India into OBOR? imagine with CPEC India is already been very upset with China now if we exclude India from OBOR, what gonna happen? :lol:

excluding, idiot we are rejecting, sstop making a fool of yourself.
lol you make it sound like its end of world.

Nothing is going to happen, relax. And stop clowning.
 
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India has no way out of this but to join the CPEC. The Pakistanis will be expanding their IT, Manufacturing and Trade deals with the Central Russian States and with Russia and Iran on the other end, eventually reaching out to Europe. You want to see Pakistanis eat your lunch.....have at it. Tell Modi not to put up a show and not join :enjoy:

The reality is, Indian manufacturing and various other companies will lose out on billions if India didn't join. If Modi had some actual brains, instead of "hoping" to destroy or damage the project through Baluchstan, he'd have joined. But some people don't like peace and stability. Well, there is a cost for that and that cost isn't getting digested by your officials very well at this point.

First, will Pakistan allow India to transport its goods through it ? we know that answer. No, a big no and then what is the use of CPEC for India.

and with regards to losing out billions its just Pakistan's imagination as India is looking at alternate routes that's the reason China is rallying behind India to join CPEC and OBOR so that reduce the competition between projects.
 
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This confirms that Chinese ambassador did proposed to rename cpec.

India has its own plans, India is also developing its own trade corridors. as neighbors India and china can open a new route through Himalayas.

https://thewire.in/133544/cpec-obor-china-india-rename/

After reports appeared that China had offered to consider renaming the China-Pakistan Economic Corridor to meet Indian concerns, the sentence referring to the proposal has disappeared from Ambassador Luo Zhaohui’s speech on the Chinese embassy website.

On Monday, The Wire first published a report on the proposal made by the Chinese envoy to India in a speech made to the United Service Institution on May 5.

China had been recently stepped it’s up efforts to persuade India and Indian public opinion to join the Belt-Road Initiative summit in Beijing on May 14-15, which was to be attended by nearly 28 heads of state. With that background, Luo’s speech had dwelled largely on the benefits for India to join its flagship strategic initiative.

India’s concerns about CPEC – which is a key part of Beijing’s One Belt, One Road (OBOR) Initiative – has been fuelled by the route of the corridor which starts in Gilgit-Baltistan, a part of Kashmir that been under Pakistani occupation.

Asserting that CPEC is only for promoting economic cooperation and would have no impact on sovereignty issues, Luo had tried to sweeten the deal for India, at least, cosmetically. “Even we can think about renaming the CPEC,” he said. This was the first time ever that a Chinese official had publicly talked of re-naming $51 billion CPEC project, which Islamabad views as a “gamechanger” and a guarantee against being isolated even if the West ratchets up economic pressure to stop its support for certain terror groups.

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Screenshot of Ambassador Luo’s original speech

The text of the article had been first posted on the website of the Chinese embassy on Sunday. A screenshot of the relevant paragraph was tweeted by this correspondent at 11.54 pm on May 7 with the relevant sentence, highlighted.

Following The Wire’s report on the morning of May 8, other publications also reported the offer including PTI, India Today and ANI.

However, when the embassy website page for the speech was checked again on May 8 evening, the eight-word sentence was missing. The rest of the 2900 plus words of the speech were intact.

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Now you see it, now you don’t: The words highlighted were subsequently deleted from the Chinese embassy website. Credit: The Wire

The Wire has confirmed from attendees of the speech at USI that the Chinese envoy had largely read out from a text for his speech, in which he had said that Beijing could look into changing the nomenclature of CPEC.

A retired Indian diplomat, who was part of the audience, said that Luo’s proposal certainly did not seem like a passing whim. “The re-naming suggestion was flagged several times. It was mentioned at least four times by him during the discussion, including as part of the speech,” he said.

Luo, who is highly regarded as a career diplomat, is apparently part of a rare breed in the Chinese foreign service who identify themselves as an ‘India-hand’. During his talk, which went on more than two hours, Luo noted that his baptism as a junior diplomat began with his witnessing the historic visit by Prime Minister Rajiv Gandhi to China in 1988.

During his tenure at Chinese foreign office’s counter terrorism department, Luo had helped to restart the stalled India-China bilateral working group on terrorism, which had met rather frequently in 2011 and 2012, according to the retired Indian diplomat. This dialogue process had ensured that India participated as an observer at China’s counter-terror exercise in its restive Xinjiang province in 2012.

Having spent some time in New Delhi in the initial part of his diplomatic life, Luo also proudly recounts that his wife, Jiang Yili is the first Chinese national to obtain a doctorate from Delhi University.

The mystery of the ‘missing proposal’, made at a closed door event, could perhaps have been to test the waters carefully – and perhaps, withdrawn after there was not a great reception from the Indian side. It was also suggested that the choice of USI, rather than other private think-tanks, as the venue to make this offer was significant.

There had been no official comment made during by the Indian government on the Chinese officer.

Another theory is that the proposal could have been removed after a rap on the knuckles from Beijing, with the suggestion being that it was an entirely an initiative from Luo.

The Wire was not able to obtain an explanation from the Chinese embassy for the redaction of the ambassador’s speech till the time of of publication.
 
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First, will Pakistan allow India to transport its goods through it ? we know that answer. No, a big no and then what is the use of CPEC for India.

and with regards to losing out billions its just Pakistan's imagination as India is looking at alternate routes that's the reason China is rallying behind India to join CPEC and OBOR so that reduce the competition between projects.

Pakistan should allow India to transport through it if India joins there is no way for them after joined

India also have chance to rename the corridor if wanted India-Pakistan-china Economy Corridor
 
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Seriously, recently i've been noticing plenty of so-called Chinese say this do that to India news, however i've a hard time to find out where does most of them came from, majority of them came from the opinion section that should not even considered to be China's official news
For example for today, "People Daily" official media of PRC, i simply failed to find anything thats closed to the OP news
The only one related to India is this one
Revolution sets China and India apart
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http://en.people.cn/n3/2017/0508/c90000-9212295.html

Brilliantly-written, non-rhetorical article!

Especially this part:

He, following the British model, established the judicial, parliamentary and education systems. The four principles of his domestic policy are democracy, socialism, solidarity and secularism. Such a political model was created by British colonists in order to consolidate their rule and maintain stability in the multi-ethnic and multi-religious South Asia.

Revolution is one of Britain's greatest fears, and it needed stability in the region, as only in a stable environment, can the wealth of South Asia, accumulated over the past thousands of years, be delivered to Britain without disruptions.

Nehru's British education background as well as the ethnic and religious conflicts plaguing India at that time also placed constraints on him. He could only rely on the British model to ensure the nation's unity. Therefore, India embarked on a path of anything but revolution.

Drawing a comparison between India and China, one can clearly see differences of China's 1949 revolution. The revolution, led by the Communist Party of China, subverted tradition, broke social stratum, liberated women, eliminated illiteracy and realized the integration of education, postal service, railways and tax sectors. The gap between China and India didn't originate from their reforms at the end of the 20th century. It's hard to imagine what other ways, if not revolution, can bring about drastic changes to China in such a short period of time and pave the way for modernization.

The price of revolution may be heavy. But only by walking between India's cities and country, and standing in front of the building with an imperial atmosphere, can one get to know the meaning and role of revolution.

subverted tradition => Anti-religious, anti-superstitious, pro-atheistic promotion in society
broke social stratum => only 1 single common class in society平民老百姓

liberated women =>

妇女能顶半边天 - Women hold up half the sky- Mao Zedong
eliminated illiteracy => simplified the Chinese iconographic script 简体字 so that every1 can learn how to write and recognise words easily
integration of education => Education institutions became specialized(especially in Engineering) Tsinghua University is a prime example.
 
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I tried searching for any such news in Chinese media since I saw this thread, nothing found.
Lol, you should know the indian media by now. They compete with CNN and BBC for fake news.
 
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First, will Pakistan allow India to transport its goods through it ? we know that answer. No, a big no and then what is the use of CPEC for India.

and with regards to losing out billions its just Pakistan's imagination as India is looking at alternate routes that's the reason China is rallying behind India to join CPEC and OBOR so that reduce the competition between projects.

1) The problem isn't Pakistan. The problem has always been in your heads. You are a bigger country but obsessed with Pakistan like that ex-husband or a wife one can't forget....even decades after the divorce. Time to really move on? In international treaties, its not that easy to stop the trade after the agreement. The issue is, you know you'll end up creating more Baluchistan's if the trade was allowed and they'll stop it. So again, the issue isn't in Pakistan, its inside your head. You guys can't act truthfully with the Pakistanis. The history has it. You are casually stopping the water to 200 million people....not caring the devastation it would bring to the region if a war started over water. So just like now with the CPEC if a war was to breakout and all else failed, your Modi and family will create another show of some sort, to open the flow of the water. So we've seen this Indian show way too many times. Forgot the Indian not-so diplomat arrested in NY? I can name you a thousand shows you guys put together and think the world consists of morons who can't distinguish between real issues and drama queen issues.

2) China isn't rallying behind anything. The Chinese were "requested" that India wishes to join the project (finally and with embarrassment) if the name was changed. China doesn't need anything from you. You aren't the US and will never be. You should know the reality before talking like that. The Chinese are about 10 years ahead of you in every field. Its like the French or the Britts thinking the US "needs them" when we talk about being allies and partners. How cute is the thought of that :smitten::rofl:
 
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You are doing Randi Rona. It is not India's proposal, its China who wants to change the name, not India.
India's objection is about using territory that is an integral part of India but in Pakistani occupation.
If China really wants India to be involved then they should get out of the disputed territory. India will give them passage through Himachal Pradesh or Uttarakhand and they are free to take it via Pakistan.
China does not need to appease India. Our objection is a token objection and a caution to China that the dispute over the territory is a bilateral matter with Pakistan and there has been several wars and military conflicts over it and in future conflicts, their investments should not give them an excuse to poke their nose in a bilateral dispute.

Yet your news channels portray it as some sort of victory. CPEC or IPEC is not going anywhere so like i said earlier tawada Randi Rona ni mukna whatever the case. J&K is part of pakistan so there is nothing bileteral as you are merely occupiers of the land. In my personal opnion Indians are affraid of the day when there will be end of poverty and rein of prosperity in Pakistan so this opposition is nothing more than jealousy and ill will toward Pakistani population. Considering the number of project being carried out in Kahsmir and GB you people should be happy but you indians are rotten to the core to celeberate their happiness.
 
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