'China will not oppose India's UN seat bid'

[cloud]

Practically in diplomatic terms it doesn't even mean an ounce of support, leave alone any other thing. China has said so for years, its nothing new. Its like we don't oppose to Pakistan's membership(hypothetically), but when time comes they should give what we want or else we will not support.

 

[Sergi]

Hey and what will you guies tell to your "higher than... and deeper than..." friend ??? India getting permanent seat means death to many issues in UN. And China supporting it will be not so good sight for some I don't mind it though

And if China do it..... Indo-Sino relations will improve very very fast

 

[rashtriya.rifles]

What usually happens, is that if a resolution makes it to the UNSC (most don't) then the P5 can either accept or reject the resolution. One "no" vote from any of the P5 members counts as a rejection.

In order to avoid problems in the actual vote, the P5 will usually negotiate the resolution in the back room, and "water down" the resolution to suit their needs.

The G4 have agreed to put in their bids as a group, which means the reform resolution will not be able to be watered down to remove any of the G4 members.

This can easily be solved if the G4 is disbanded. Then a "new structure" can be proposed that will not be vetoed by any of the P5.

U are wrong my friend.. This group of G4 is actually a collective effort to get the resolution tabled in UNSC.. the fact that UNSC is getting revamped maybe a huge issue with many countries..

And after getting it tabled, the analysis should be done on a country basis.. and that is how thing works.. if a bill is tabled in parliament, once a particular point is accepted to be "not relevant" it is struck out rather than throwing the entire bill to dust bin..

I think India is doing the right thing.. since when the bill get tabled ( i want everyone to appreciate how mountainous this job itself is ) will be a confirmation of sorts that time is ripe to start UNSC revision..

And then the rejecting the entire resolution based on a mere fact that some annals of the resolutions are unfit is total non sense..
also if they don't accept anyone's argument of getting accepted, then the act of acceptance of resolution will seem to be a joke..

which will make it even more obvious why the UN needs to be revamped.

 

[zaxcollix]

Permanent seat in UNSC will be a big headache for India.

Consider a situation when India has to vote on Isreal-Philistine conflict? How to choose sides?

We are absolutely fine with the current condition.

I completely agree with you. A good HDI and a large number of Nukes is far more useful than a seat on an obsolete council.

That seat was important 40 to 20 years ago. Today its worth nothing. In the future it will be worth even less. I just hope our babus get over their Nehruvian ideas and show some more real politik maturity.

 

[帅的一匹]

If India wish to carry on independent foreign policy, better stay away from being a UNSC PM.

 

[帅的一匹]

No one in china will support Japan join the UNSC PM, no matter yesterday, today or tomorrow. China will not veto India's effort to be a permanent member. But I think until now, India is not enough prepared to be it.

Some Indian member still appreciate Japan's role to help India's independency from UK in world war 2.

印度很有潜力，但是还不成熟。

 

[帅的一匹]

the last one wanna see India's face in UNSC PM is USA.

 

[sancho]

It doesn't matter who is in the UNC, as long as there is no reform. The biggest problem for the UN is the veto right, US and their allies are blocking resolutions, just like Russia or China are as well. Even in humanitarian missions there is hardly a common regulation for what the forces can do or not, because it's the governement of each country that decides. Without a real reform, the UN has no meaning!

 

[Abingdonboy]

If this news is true then it is a fairly sensible and pragmatic stance the Chinese are taking. If the Chinese were previously afraid that India would be a US poodle then India has wholly put these fears to bed- IIRC I heard that India has one of the worst track records in voting against US led motions and more often than not ends up on the Chinese side of the equation when voting. And hopefully the leaders on both side can see that together India and China can do far more than on their own and that together they could DOMINATE the world stage.

 

[KingMamba]

All countries in the UNSC are saying they will not oppose hoping that somebody else will or that they can hold off on the vote entirely. The truth is nobody wants to hand power over to yet another state and even if they do they will not give veto rights which makes the bid utterly useless. I would be shocked if India not only gets in but is also awarded veto rights.

 

[arp2041]

All countries in the UNSC are saying they will not oppose hoping that somebody else will or that they can hold off on the vote entirely. The truth is nobody wants to hand power over to yet another state and even if they do they will not give veto rights which makes the bid utterly useless. I would be shocked if India not only gets in but is also awarded veto rights.

Russia - Russia to support India

France -

France Backs India for UNSC Bid - YouTube

UK - UK supports India's bid for permanent membership of UNSC - Economic Times

US - http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/09/world/asia/09prexy.html

& now China - 'China will not oppose India's UN seat bid' - World - DNA

There is no other country in this world for which u can give me FIVE similar links, If there is the vacancy for a SIXTH one in P-5, it's only & only - INDIA

 

[KingMamba]

Russia - Russia to support India

France -

France Backs India for UNSC Bid - YouTube

UK - UK supports India's bid for permanent membership of UNSC - Economic Times

US - Obama Supports U.N. Seat for India - NYTimes.com

& now China - 'China will not oppose India's UN seat bid' - World - DNA

There is no other country in this world for which u can give me FIVE similar links, If there is the vacancy for a SIXTH one in P-5, it's only & only - INDIA

Saying something and actually going through with it are two different things entirely, the veto power will be key would any of the top 5 be willing to give veto powers to another state?? I highly doubt it unless India wants to walk a fine line by siding with a certain position.

 

[ajtr]

Russia - Russia to support India

France -

France Backs India for UNSC Bid - YouTube

UK - UK supports India's bid for permanent membership of UNSC - Economic Times

US - http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/09/world/asia/09prexy.html

& now China - 'China will not oppose India's UN seat bid' - World - DNA

There is no other country in this world for which u can give me FIVE similar links, If there is the vacancy for a SIXTH one in P-5, it's only & only - INDIA

Without Pakistan's approval india will never get unsc permanent seat.


Pak-led group opposes US endorsement of India on UNSC - Economic Times

Pakistan opposes India

Pak opposes UNSC seat for India, brings up Kashmir | International - Oneindia News

 

[arp2041]

Saying something and actually going through with it are two different things entirely, the veto power will be key would any of the top 5 be willing to give veto powers to another state?? I highly doubt it unless India wants to walk a fine line by siding with a certain position.

Hope u don't mean to say that top world leaders are telling a blatant lie in the open?? Yes veto power will be an issue, but we can atleast agree on a permanent seat, but they are contradictory to each other since the UN charter says that PM's have the Veto powers.

Without Pakistan's approval india will never get unsc permanent seat.


Pak-led group opposes US endorsement of India on UNSC - Economic Times

Pakistan opposes India

Pak opposes UNSC seat for India, brings up Kashmir | International - Oneindia News

didn't know that more than the accent of P-5's, India need the permission of MIGHTY HYPER SUPER DUPER POWER Pakistan to get to the UNSC

Aunty kitna.....kitna hasogey

 

[sancho]

Without Pakistan's approval india will never get unsc permanent seat.

Pakistan has no say in the UN, only the permanent members does and they are all in favour for India. Neither does it matter that Italy opposes the German bid, as long as the veto powers are for it and there will be a majority to support such a resolution, it's not an issue.