China-US Geopolitics: News & Discussions

[DJ_Viper]

LOL floating coffins they are. Poor sailors, dying for corrupt politicians in Washington.

You have some serious comprehension and trolling problems. Try shooting on one of these, you'll see a lot of floating coffins with a quarter of your navy under water, swimming with the sharks.

 

[sweetgrape]

You have some serious comprehension and trolling problems. Try shooting on one of these, you'll see a lot of floating coffins with a quarter of your navy under water, swimming with the sharks.

It is show, Fist VS Fist, there are proper freedom of navigation to military ship in SCS, China is challenging your so-called rule in SCS which you see as part of your Global hegemony, you are challenging China's claim in SCS, that's it.

We will prepare coffins and land for our soldier, so what about you? Manage your army, don't think navigation freedom for civilian ship can apply to military ship, China is not Iraq or Lybia, you know that.

 

[52051]

Go write bullshiit and propaganda to someone else. Give me your destroyed ship counts on this forum if a conflict ever starts. I have nothing more to say.

I just hope your ship is as tough as your words through...

 

[gambit]

I just hope your ship is as tough as your words through...

You should direct those words at yourself and your fellow Chinese on this forum.

 

[52051]

You should direct those words at yourself and your fellow Chinese on this forum.

Our ship sitting at South China sea comfortablly watching the targetted US cv fleets run out of South China sea, thats the whole starting point of this thread, dont you remember, my short-memory vietcong-american (wtf of this combination)?

 

[sweetgrape]

Go write bullshiit and propaganda to someone else. Give me your destroyed ship counts on this forum if a conflict ever starts. I have nothing more to say.

Hehe, you see it as propaganda, not different to you kind normal American believe so-called "democratic" propaganda, You Navy come to SCS for peacekeeping, misguide people that Military ship has freedom of navigation like civilian ship. Propaganda, who is better than you western?

If nothing to say, so better to shut your mouth up, do you know, when you BlahBlah, so hypocritical and disgusting.

 

[gambit]

Our ship sitting at South China sea comfortablly watching the targetted US cv fleets run out of South China sea, thats the whole starting point of this thread, dont you remember, my short-memory vietcong-american (wtf of this combination)?

You sit when you should be doing something. But then, against the US Navy, there is nothing the PLAN can do but sit anyway.

 

[ohmrlobalobayeh]

The PLA claimed it 'targeted' the American ships.

Sure...Why not...???

Anyone can make any claim.

Here is the real deal...

It is difficult for people to envision a US aircraft carrier fleet at sea regarding how much ocean real estate the fleet uses. So the above illustration should make it easier by using several US states and cities as references for which component of the fleet lies where and does what. Now imagine the fleet moving across continental US while being constantly arrayed over several states at any time.

Only a dozen DF-21Ds ? Try hundreds or even thousands if China want to get lucky.

This is not even taking into consideration countermeasures that the fleet can deploy WHILE maneuvering.

yayayyayaa more grandmother stories from u.

anyway the point here is China was prepared to take on the US when it goes down to business- not who will win

Your vehement and defensive response, as demonstrated by your wall-text long of information and diagrams- shows the typical American anxiety and resulting eagerness in playing down China's readiness to engage in a conflict with the US.

 

[gambit]

...your wall-text long of information and diagrams...

Must be tough knowing that others appreciate them because they understand what I posted while you ain't gots the brains to do the same.

 

[DJ_Viper]

anyway the point here is China was prepared to take on the US when it goes down to business- not who will win.

We wanted it to go down to business when we decided to slow sail right through the Taiwanese strait. But you guys chickened out and per your defense analysts "the PLAAN decided to keep a defensive posture". Well, a few miles off your coast and you being in a defensive posture.....speaks volume

Then there was the second CSG sent to the SCS, and now a third will soon provide you with a nice new year's gift with love from the USN. And you guys will just sit and write these verbals on here "hoping for the best"

 

[52051]

We wanted it to go down to business when we decided to slow sail right through the Taiwanese strait. But you guys chickened out and per your defense analysts "the PLAAN decided to keep a defensive posture". Well, a few miles off your coast and you being in a defensive posture.....speaks volume

Then there was the second CSG sent to the SCS, and now a third will soon provide you with a nice new year's gift with love from the USN. And you guys will just sit and write these verbals on here "hoping for the best"

Maybe in 1996 you can since at that time we dont have a serious means to sink CVs, but be awared 2016 is about 20 years later, and unlike the average americans, 20 years is enough for Chinese to make a whole lot difference.

Just like you said in other post:
20 years ago, when we ride bikes you ride F-22
And now, when we ride J-20 you still ride F-22 (althrough lack of oxygen or something)
Maybe 20 years later, when we ride J-30 or J-60, you may still ride F-22 or their poor fatter buttbuddy like F-35

You know, judging by the fact here, I have a feeling that China is about to leave the poor americans in the dust in basically every category of competition, and the US will return to a second-rated regional power in the very near future.

Anyway the average dumb americans should not be fooled by their greedy politicans and try to stand in every possible way of China, it will only hurt the every poor dumb americans and wont even slow one bit of China's progress, we will take back whatever belong to us regardless whether the US try to come to be some pretender.

 

[DJ_Viper]

Maybe in 1996 you can since at that time we dont have a serious means to sink CVs

You talk about sinking an aircraft carrier like you are playing a video game. Your DF-BS missile system hasn't sunk a fishing boat yet (without AD). Go sink one and let us know the success rate. I've not seen any nation making these crazy statements over systems that have never been tested in real warfare!! Remember recently one of your heavy artillery demo failed and your customer country's President was there to "witness the success" . Nuff said!

but be awared 2016 is about 20 years later, and unlike the average americans, 20 years is enough for Chinese to make a whole lot difference.

Just like you said in other post:
20 years ago, when we ride bikes you ride F-22
And now, when we ride J-20 you still ride F-22 (althrough lack of oxygen or something)
Maybe 20 years later, when we ride J-30 or J-60, you may still ride F-22 or their poor fatter buttbuddy like F-35

So by reading the above, I realized, its not just the Chinese defense industry that's behind. People like you are too.I believe that the F-35 would be our last manned jet. We are building even Hypersonic bombers and those are unmanned also. Here is what the US is working on. Check these out (this is just the stuff that's out in the Public, there are many other Ghost projects also which we'll never know about, till they are released to public):

http://www.airforce-technology.com/projects/x-45-ucav

http://www.whiteoutpress.com/articles/q42013/next-us-bomber-fleet-to-be-unmanned/

http://aviationweek.com/defense/boeing-lockheed-martin-team-new-bomber

 

[52051]

You talk about sinking an aircraft carrier like you are playing a video game. Your DF-BS missile system hasn't sunk a fishing boat yet (without AD). Go sink one and let us know the success rate. I've not seen any nation making these crazy statements over systems that have never been tested in real warfare!! Remember recently one of your heavy artillery demo failed and your customer country's President was there to "witness the success" . Nuff said!



So by reading the above, I realized, its not just the Chinese defense industry that's behind. People like you are too.I believe that the F-35 would be our last manned jet. We are building even Hypersonic bombers and those are unmanned also. Here is what the US is working on. Check these out:

http://www.airforce-technology.com/projects/x-45-ucav

http://www.whiteoutpress.com/articles/q42013/next-us-bomber-fleet-to-be-unmanned/

http://aviationweek.com/defense/boeing-lockheed-martin-team-new-bomber

Do you honestly believe China dont have any of simliar weapon system you develop now?

My friends works in AVIC and many defence industry/research university, and let me put this way:

Name any single f*cking weapon concept you brag in your PPT, we have the same or better ones.

China now basically fund every and any possible weapon projects, and it is tough luck you need to have to take any lead of any of them, just like the "global strike" concept you first brags and now lag far behind the Chinese, and just like how China dominate the supercomputer competition now.

And remember, these are projects started at 1990s and just imagine the weapon project in China starting now.

Just learn to live with it, China has far more and far far better talents pool and you are hopeless in trying to match that.

Like I said before, don't try to play as some joking superman and try to stand in China's way, you will be burnt.

 

[F-22Raptor]

Do you honestly believe China dont have any of simliar weapon system you develop now?

My friends works in AVIC and many defence industry/research university, and let me put this way:

Name any single fucking weapon concept you brag in your PPT, we have the same or better ones.

China now basically fund every and any possible weapon projects, and it is tough luck you need to have to take any lead of any of them, just like the "global strike" concept you first brags and now lag far behind the Chinese, and just like how China dominate the supercomputer competition now.

And remeber, these are projects start at 1990s and just imagining the weapon project in China start at now.

Just learn to live with it, China has far more and far far better talents pool and you are hopeless in trying to match that.

Like I said before, dont try to play as some joking superman and try to stand in China's way, you will be burnt.

A "better talent pool" and we're "hopeless" to match it? Who are you trying to fool?

The US military is undergoing a full scale modernization of its forces over the next couple decades. Your looking at trillions of dollars in defense investments over that time period, and a defense industry that has access to world class scientists and engineers. China doesn't have a chance in hell of gaining military overmatch against the United States.

Your mind is shackled to your own deluded fantasies.

 

[52051]

I think I can recommend cure for many diseases just by googling. This one that I am dealing with on here, is not curable. When someone's high off blind patriotism and grandiosity about what they "think" it is, vs. what it really is, you can't fix that dangerous combo.

Like I said, you can continue on with the mental mas*******. And last I remembered on the talent pool, the MIT, the Harvard, the Yale's of the world are still in the US. Not in China.

Whatever make you sleep, I am done with you poor stupid americans here, luckly enough for you, at least your greedy politcans are not just as stupid as you, thats why they love to retreat.