China unveils terrifying Dongfeng-41 nuke that ‘can strike US in 30 minutes with TEN warheads

[Dubious]

Sure they can't and you have so much evidence to support that fantasy......





@The Eagle @Dubious @waz @WAJsal @Horus @Arsalan @Irfan Baloch

This little weiner man troll from gangaland has been making ludicrous and far fetched claims which he has 0 evidence, for the past 4 days. Read his previous posts. Please deal with this creature

Looks like he is in harmony right now

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

Looks like he is in harmony right now

...........that's right, indian harmony.........

 

[Wrath]

Yes, just like that. Fool.

So Pakistan can't do anything and India can do everything ? . Man don't be so biased .

 

[F-22Raptor]

China strategy is simple. As long as peaceful is achieved for another 1-2 decades. China will definitely surpass US in everything. China growth is much faster that included new innovation, R&D and industries. There is no need to wipe US off since the future is on our side. While in fact is US desperate try to wipe China off. Becos in a fair economy 1 on 1 race for next 1-2 decades. US will definitely lose. With parity mutual ensure that a war between US and China war will result in destruction of both countries. US can never start the war on China. Unless US is seeking death. But I don't think American is stupid enough to seek death. What China need to do in next 5-10 years down the road to make US accepted in 2nd. Being 2nd is not bad, US is not like UK. US is much bigger in size, more resources and population. They will not decline as badly as UK. So I believe US will eventually accept being second to China in near future.

China hasn’t closed the gap with the US economy in 6-7 years now. And as time goes on China’s growth will continue its steady decline. China’s upcoming demographic collapse practically guarantees it.

As for the military....the US is at the beginning stages of its own massive military modernization. You will begin to see the fruits of this effort in the coming years. China will find it impossible to overmatch the US military. The US military is essentially at the doorstep of its next revolution.

 

[LKJ86]

As for the military....the US is at the beginning stages of its own massive military modernization. You will begin to see the fruits of this effort in the coming years. China will find it impossible to overmatch the US military. The US military is essentially at the doorstep of its next revolution.

USA would suffer an unbearable loss, if wages a war against China.
That is enough to China now.

 

[tower9]

China military buildup is perse not bad. I never say chinese are natural warmonger. The problem lies in China claims. Especially the claim South China Sea. That is very problematic.

Well, for what it's worth, there are many claimants to the islands and Vietnam currently holds the most islands. I don't think China's buildup in those islands will lead to a war to take the other islands by force. China just wants power projection in order to make sure its sea lanes are not cut by the US navy if there is a war. Building up bases on the islands it already holds is already sufficient to achieve that.

China hasn’t closed the gap with the US economy in 6-7 years now. And as time goes on China’s growth will continue its steady decline. China’s upcoming demographic collapse practically guarantees it.

As for the military....the US is at the beginning stages of its own massive military modernization. You will begin to see the fruits of this effort in the coming years. China will find it impossible to overmatch the US military. The US military is essentially at the doorstep of its next revolution.

I agree that China's growth cannot last forever, but it is overly optimistic to think that China won't become the world's largest economy. It's urbanization rate is only 60% and still growing. This is the first generation of young people in China's history that will have wide access to college education, thus improving production.

There is no way that China's GDP per capita will always be 1/6th of the US or 1/4th of Taiwan or HK. Eventually China will become a larger economy than the US, but its per capita GDP may never catch up, it may stall when it is at 1/3rd the size of the US for example, but by that time, it may be 30-40% larger.

China's economy has definitely been catching up to the US in the last 6-7 years when you look at things proportionally.

 

[F-22Raptor]

USA would suffer an unbearable loss, if wages a war against China.
That is enough to China now.

Flight-test infrastructure within the U.S. Air Force is evolving as a new generation of faster and longer-range air-launched weapons approach a four-year surge of flight-test activity. By 2023, the U.S. Air Force plans to introduce the AGM-183A Air-Launched Rapid Response Weapon and the Hypersonic Conventional Strike Weapon—which boast double-digit Mach numbers and a maximum range measured in the thousands of miles. About 40 hypersonic flight tests, including prototypes ...

http://m.aviationweek.com/missile-d...siles-drive-us-air-force-adopt-new-technology

The US is close to fielding a triad of conventional hypersonic strike weapons. An this is just one example in its modernization portfolio.

In any conflict with the US, China will be defeated. Remember, the US military is not going to invade China, it simply has to deny Chinese objectives. The US just needs some time to fully modernize its forces to fulfill the National Defense Strategy.

 

[LKJ86]

Flight-test infrastructure within the U.S. Air Force is evolving as a new generation of faster and longer-range air-launched weapons approach a four-year surge of flight-test activity. By 2023, the U.S. Air Force plans to introduce the AGM-183A Air-Launched Rapid Response Weapon and the Hypersonic Conventional Strike Weapon—which boast double-digit Mach numbers and a maximum range measured in the thousands of miles. About 40 hypersonic flight tests, including prototypes ...

http://m.aviationweek.com/missile-d...siles-drive-us-air-force-adopt-new-technology

The US is close to fielding a triad of conventional hypersonic strike weapons. An this is just one example in its modernization portfolio.

In any conflict with the US, China will be defeated. Remember, the US military is not going to invade China, it simply has to deny Chinese objectives. The US just needs some time to fully modernize its forces to fulfill the National Defense Strategy.

China is an ancient country with a civilization of over 5000 years, and has enough patience to see what will happen in near future.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

China hasn’t closed the gap with the US economy in 6-7 years now. And as time goes on China’s growth will continue its steady decline. China’s upcoming demographic collapse practically guarantees it.

As for the military....the US is at the beginning stages of its own massive military modernization. You will begin to see the fruits of this effort in the coming years. China will find it impossible to overmatch the US military. The US military is essentially at the doorstep of its next revolution.

Sure sure. The White Americans are dying out. They and them alone are responsible for America being a superpower. You have a WAY bigger demographic problem than China could ever have.

 

[tower9]

Flight-test infrastructure within the U.S. Air Force is evolving as a new generation of faster and longer-range air-launched weapons approach a four-year surge of flight-test activity. By 2023, the U.S. Air Force plans to introduce the AGM-183A Air-Launched Rapid Response Weapon and the Hypersonic Conventional Strike Weapon—which boast double-digit Mach numbers and a maximum range measured in the thousands of miles. About 40 hypersonic flight tests, including prototypes ...

http://m.aviationweek.com/missile-d...siles-drive-us-air-force-adopt-new-technology

The US is close to fielding a triad of conventional hypersonic strike weapons. An this is just one example in its modernization portfolio.

In any conflict with the US, China will be defeated. Remember, the US military is not going to invade China, it simply has to deny Chinese objectives. The US just needs some time to fully modernize its forces to fulfill the National Defense Strategy.

The chances of a full blown war between the US and China is pretty low. Iran is a cakewalk compared to China and the US has already been doing everything it can to stop short of attacking Iran. China is a whole different animal.

I do agree that the US is far more militarily powerful right now when you take into account its navy. I don't think China can successfully invade Taiwan at this point either if that means overcoming both the Taiwanese military which is very powerful on its own plus American reinforcements. However, that calculus may change in ten years.

Any war with China will bring about massive casualties and could lead to nuclear war. Because of this, I think the US govt. will stop short of a war against China even as it uses every other tool of political, social and economic disruption to try to slow China's rise.

Sure sure. The White Americans are dying out. They and them alone are responsible for America being a superpower. You have a WAY bigger demographic problem than China could ever have.

I'd say the large East and South Asian immigrant tech community is just as responsible for the US being a superpower. They make up the majority of the workforce in Silicon Valley and America's tech industries. If they were to disappear, the US will immediately fall behind China as a tech power within 2-3 years. You're not going to get some rednecks from Indiana and Alabama to do what they have been doing in contributing to America's lead in technology.

 

[Beast]

China hasn’t closed the gap with the US economy in 6-7 years now. And as time goes on China’s growth will continue its steady decline. China’s upcoming demographic collapse practically guarantees it.

As for the military....the US is at the beginning stages of its own massive military modernization. You will begin to see the fruits of this effort in the coming years. China will find it impossible to overmatch the US military. The US military is essentially at the doorstep of its next revolution.

You are self deceiving... Your private military contractor are all for profit. They would do a single thing until costing american taxes payer an arm or leg. That is the price of democracy capitalism..

If China growth decline. US economy is entering contraction which means China will still takeover US in 10 years time. In terms of PPP, we are far ahead of US. That means with lesser money compare to US. We can be more productive and produce more quality and quantity weapon.

 

[serenity]

China has its own similar weapons to AGM-183A and Kinzal missile. Air launched, ground launched, ship launched, and submarine launched. Maybe not doing exactly the same missions because China weapon objectives will be different with American weapon objectives.

But on critical level, China's global objectives are not as ambitious as Americans. We just want things to go as they are and keep improving our internal performance until the whole country is educated and can be more productive than previous generation. That's all. We don't need bases around the world and steal other countries resources by way of gun like the Europeans and Americans. We don't need those bases to keep our hands on the world and tell other countries what policy to use and who to talk bad to and who to support. We don't operate using those methods. We just want to keep industrializing and improving our own poor people and poor cities. Keep trading with the world and use capitalism to keep our country increasing in wealth. Once that objective is done, life is happier and people can think about more freedom to explore spiritualism and political thinking and keep China evolving and hopefully direct human civilization in progressive order with peace.

America sees us as a bigger threat than in the past because we are doing things differently, have different ideas about life and economy and control, we are also not under their direct control like for example Japan or Australia or Canada. Now you are working directly and hard at work against us. No decent and strong person was made by getting through life easily. Good and strong people come from overcoming challenges and difficulty. You make life difficult for us, it's fine and it's nature and God's way. Whatever.

 

[LeGenD]

I think if they are used in collaboration with radars they can play role in detection of stealth jets,more diversified platforms and data gathering will beath stealth in near future

Hazrat,

F-22A is designed in such a way that it not only deflect and/or scatter radar waves around but also minimize its infrared emissions while supercruising.

China have a few infrared imaging spy satellites up there (4 in total) but these need to notice, filter, identify, and obtain a lock on the infrared emissions of F-22A jets which is unrealistic expectation in the face of Earth's weather patterns, thousands of infrared emissions popping up around the world, as well as F-22A minimizing its infrared emissions as soon as it has taken off.

Another route is to direct optical imaging satellites to take snapshots of the relevant theater in very short intervals for indefinite period but even if F-22A are visible to spacefaring cameras for a while, this does not necessarily translate into anything meaningful on the surface in a short span. Optical imaging data is to be processed by powerful computers on the ground, and subsequent information is to be passed on to relevant assets in the theater but this matter does not address the need to obtain weapons-grade locks on F-22A from the surface from afar. When F-22A are up in the air, they will be frustrating kill chains on the surface and directed towards attacking lines of communication, radar systems, A2/AD arrangements and vice versa.

You understand where this is going?

Best form of defense is to avoid war with the world's best equipped state. People think that high-stakes war with USA is a joke? That every matter have an easy counter?

 

[j20blackdragon]

I also believe a nation which is not bound by blood won't last long, blood is the ultimate bond both for families and nations, US was not built based on that,

Sure sure. The White Americans are dying out. They and them alone are responsible for America being a superpower. You have a WAY bigger demographic problem than China could ever have.

 

[Yaseen1]

i think space weapons are future and with evolution of AI and quantum computing it is not difficult to process information obtained by satellites within seconds and china is also working on quantum radars which cannot be evaded by any stealth fighter ,i think china can place weapons on space to destroy f22 from space as well as deploying weapons on earth

Hazrat,

F-22A is designed in such a way that it not only deflect and/or scatter radar waves around but also minimize its infrared emissions while supercruising.

China have a few infrared imaging spy satellites up there (4 in total) but these need to notice, filter, identify, and obtain a lock on the infrared emissions of F-22A jets which is unrealistic expectation in the face of Earth's weather patterns, thousands of infrared emissions popping up around the world, as well as F-22A minimizing its infrared emissions as soon as it has taken off.

Another route is to direct optical imaging satellites to take snapshots of the relevant theater in very short intervals for indefinite period but even if F-22A are visible to spacefaring cameras for a while, this does not necessarily translate into anything meaningful on the surface in a short span. Optical imaging data is to be processed by powerful computers on the ground, and subsequent information is to passed on to relevant assets in the theater but this matter does not address the need to obtain weapons-grade locks on F-22A from the surface. When F-22A are up in the air, every minute will count because they will be frustrating kill chains on the surface and directed towards attacking lines of communication, radar systems, A2/AD arrangements and vice versa.

You understand where this is going?

Best form of defense is to prevent war in the first place.